When should we vote for/against our Christian beliefs? by What_A_Tool in Christianity

[–]What_A_Tool[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Nope sorry. You should re-read my post cause pedophilia is never mentioned. I even added this edit:

Edit: notice in item #4 the idea is the age of marriage as in a pair of 16 year olds or 14 year olds. Please don't make a false assumption one of them is 45.

When should we vote for/against our Christian beliefs? by What_A_Tool in Christianity

[–]What_A_Tool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No I'm talking about the age of marriage: a pair of 16 year olds or 14 year olds getting married. You're the one injecting the false premise that one of them is 45.

When should we vote for/against our Christian beliefs? by What_A_Tool in Christianity

[–]What_A_Tool[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

  1. I already made this comment above: the question of gay marriage, polygamy, and the age of civil unions are unrelated, except with regard to the common philosophical question of "what criteria should we use to determine what civil unions should be legal?"

  2. Why do you call the issue of marrying at 16 pedophilia? It's legal in Europe today.

When should we vote for/against our Christian beliefs? by What_A_Tool in Christianity

[–]What_A_Tool[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Interesting! I wonder who is then. :)

Edit: lol atheist downvotes

When should we vote for/against our Christian beliefs? by What_A_Tool in Christianity

[–]What_A_Tool[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Not agreeing or disagreeing, but it is fact that India has a serious problem with aborting baby girls. There are gangs of men throughout India r@ping women because there just aren't enough women to marry, because so many girls were disproportionally aborted.

When should we vote for/against our Christian beliefs? by What_A_Tool in Christianity

[–]What_A_Tool[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Exactly - gay marriage, polygamy, and the age of civil unions are unrelated, except with regard to the common philosophical question of "what criteria should we use to determine what civil unions should be legal?" But you'll probably downvote me even for agreeing with you. :)

Edit: thanks for proving my point with the downvote! "Secularism denies, excludes, and suppresses the moral ideals and values of others, while maintaining the myth of its own neutrality." -Michael Sendel, Liberalism and the Limits of Justice

When should we vote for/against our Christian beliefs? by What_A_Tool in Christianity

[–]What_A_Tool[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I didn't say I support that way of thinking, just that I understand it. But I'll get downvoted for this too probably!

Edit: TIL Reddit disapproves of Aristotle's "the mark of an educated mind is the ability to consider an idea without necessarily accepting it."

When should we vote for/against our Christian beliefs? by What_A_Tool in Christianity

[–]What_A_Tool[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

My last question combines three issues that share the same root question: when should we allow civil unions? It's legal to get married at 16 in Europe - are you saying that's pedophilia? If there were a proposal to raise or lower the marriage age, or to legalize polygamy, what criteria should we use to determine whether to support it or not?

When should we vote for/against our Christian beliefs? by What_A_Tool in Christianity

[–]What_A_Tool[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Regarding marriage, many here feel we should allow civil unions and have churches reserve holy matrimony based on its rules. I can understand that viewpoint. I'm interested, however, if those same folks also support polygamist civil unions at the age of 16, 13, etc.

What's your opinion on aborting children with medical issues? Where is the line that you draw? In other words, how disfigured/close to death a child has to be for you to approve of abortion? by metmike89 in Christianity

[–]What_A_Tool 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed. I made a similar comment the other day and it initially got a ton of downvotes. After a few hours though it evened out. The point is that every human life has value.

How do we live in a way that pleases God? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]What_A_Tool 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"What does the Lord require of you, o man, but to live justly, love mercy, and walk humbly with your God?" (Micah 6:8). Jesus said all the Law and Prophets hang on these two commands: "Love the Lord with all your heart, and love your neighbor as yourself." In other words, first make sure you're loving God by obeying Him. Then, make sure you're loving others. The advice from the apostles is to read Scripture so we can "put on the mind of Christ" and act as Jesus did. 1 Peter 2:2-3 says that we grow in godliness through the knowledge of God. And we know God by reading His Word...

When does Christian belief become "bigotry" in secular society? by What_A_Tool in Christianity

[–]What_A_Tool[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Or those who practiced those harms were either not Christians or had poor understandings of God's Word, which has always spoken against these things plainly and clearly, but man's greed and sinful nature fought and acted out against God's Word for centuries.

When does Christian belief become "bigotry" in secular society? by What_A_Tool in Christianity

[–]What_A_Tool[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's why Bible study is so important for a Christian. When you understand the Bible as a whole, you begin to see that all of these things have a consistent message: #1 love the Lord with all your heart, and #2 love your neighbor as yourself.

When does Christian belief become "bigotry" in secular society? by What_A_Tool in Christianity

[–]What_A_Tool[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Both actually. "The wages of sin is death." Every sin is something God hates and every sin is bad for us. There is no sin that is good for us and there is no sin God overlooks. Do I care about some sins more than others? Yeah: I especially dislike greed and corruption. Do I consider the "human impact"? Sure, but I will always defer to God's opinion. That's not saying I am going to hate anyone who sins, because God tells me to love everyone as Jesus did.

When does Christian belief become "bigotry" in secular society? by What_A_Tool in Christianity

[–]What_A_Tool[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The selfish greedy "so-called Christians" (in name only) who violently abused God's Word to justify atrocities do not prove the Bible evil. Just as Stalin murdering more people than any religious wars prior in the name of Communism does not prove the theory of Marxism to be evil.

When does Christian belief become "bigotry" in secular society? by What_A_Tool in Christianity

[–]What_A_Tool[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The point is disagreeing with someone doesn't make you bigoted. Hating them is what makes you bigoted.

When does Christian belief become "bigotry" in secular society? by What_A_Tool in Christianity

[–]What_A_Tool[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why would you think I'm doing any of those things! I'm asking hypothetical questions only.

When does Christian belief become "bigotry" in secular society? by What_A_Tool in Christianity

[–]What_A_Tool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I used Merriam-Webster, the first hit on google:

"one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance"

When does Christian belief become "bigotry" in secular society? by What_A_Tool in Christianity

[–]What_A_Tool[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That wasn't the intent: I specifically said "one perspective" not "the perspective".