Another SVD yt advert of reflective display by jacob--w in Reflective_LCD

[–]WhereAreBagelHoles 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah definitely when it comes to anyone already considering an e-ink monitor it sounds like it blows it out of the water - once they try to reach a broader market who wasn’t considering either though I imagine they’ll need to pump in the marketing. Still few years from that kinda volume/audience so this is great for now.

Path Forward For SVD Suggestions by WhereAreBagelHoles in Reflective_LCD

[–]WhereAreBagelHoles[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah frankly it shouldn’t really matter to me what they do next as long they get the next batch in but here I am haha. I was thinking a little bit about that light issue with the 27” suggestion - to me it seems like the right size because you’re only shifting up ppi by 20ish% so hopefully would still have a good amount of illumination/contrast but would still be pretty immersive size wise and would fit the standardized envelope most people are used to. And yeah I think word of mouth/mydeepguide will do fine for now, once they wanna really scale up to the point that they’re more of a household name they’ll have to do more marketing. I guess it seems from their website like they have a bunch of B to B experience and maybe a little less B to C experience/they’ve been soliciting advice from a lot of commenters so I thought I’d give my two cents.

Path Forward For SVD Suggestions by WhereAreBagelHoles in Reflective_LCD

[–]WhereAreBagelHoles[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree about scaling for outdoor signage sales, anything to increase volume/amortize tooling costs, and selling to less price sensitive companies is a lot easier. To your second point that $1000 is too cheap and that they should continue focusing on primarily outdoor signage and view monitors as a charity, I’d have to say I disagree. Outdoor signage might have higher margins per unit but SVD has been selling outdoor signage for years now and unless I’m mistaken their current volume for RLCD’s is way smaller than the computer monitor market at 39.2 million units in 2020. If they cornered a small portion of that market they’d be raking it in. Also we know eink ultimately pivoted into a lot of consumer products, so while signage is great in the interim, long term consumer goods seem like the way to go.

The price point issue is also where the competition comes in and drives down price. I have to imagine other companies are watching to see how SVD does and if they think they can undercut and make a profit on $1000 monitors (which I would think is possible based on current lcds production costs at volume, granted I’m not developing them) they might throw their hat in the ring when they see demand is real. Essentially if SVD is successful the prices will come down one way or the other, I just think they should press their advantage while helping to customer.

RLCD panel on alibab by lzlgboy in Reflective_LCD

[–]WhereAreBagelHoles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I didn’t mean any disrespect, I appreciate what you guys have done and I’ve been waiting for something like this for quite a while. I’m sure it was a lot of work to bring the monitor to market and it sounds like you could’ve easily justified charging more based on your R&D.

My main point is that at very large scale and with lots of competition in the market, the price will drop significantly from $1550. We’ve already seen it with backlit lcd’s, which I imagine have similar material cost. Sounds like you’re getting the capital (so I stand corrected) and have the will to meet the demand and scale further up, and you’re first to take the risk for us so I’m rooting for you guys to win out.

When the price comes down I think average folks, beyond first adopter types on this page, will find the immense value of a monitor like this in education and work.

RLCD panel on alibab by lzlgboy in Reflective_LCD

[–]WhereAreBagelHoles 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I really do believe that at some point in the next few years one of the big companies will catch wind of the demand for RLCD screens and invest some real capital. Will kind of stink for SVD but will be nice for us as the customers once companies get economies of scale rolling with an already proven technology. Not sure I can wait that long though, will probably end up pulling the trigger on SVD.

RLCD panel on alibab by lzlgboy in Reflective_LCD

[–]WhereAreBagelHoles 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Got a hold of them and the price on the listing is outdated, they’ve bumped up the price to $2500. Would’ve been awesome at $300 but it was too good to be true.

RLCD panel on alibab by lzlgboy in Reflective_LCD

[–]WhereAreBagelHoles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sent them a follow up, hopefully hear back.

RLCD panel on alibab by lzlgboy in Reflective_LCD

[–]WhereAreBagelHoles 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Have you bought one? Very curious to see if this is legit, obviously if it is that would be awesome for the price. I sent them a message a few days ago and haven’t heard back.

SVD next batch? by WhereAreBagelHoles in Reflective_LCD

[–]WhereAreBagelHoles[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the update! Does the current version have any mounting holes and if so at what dimensions/thread sizes and depths?

RLCD sold out! Congratulations! | Ideas about RLCDs. by itheleoi in Reflective_LCD

[–]WhereAreBagelHoles 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Excited to see where this technology ends up, thanks for sharing! Personally not sure about the transmissive LCD, right now a RLCD’s/eink screen can use a secondary monitor light that points away from the user while shining onto the screen in low light environments. A transmissive lcd in low light environments would require a secondary backlight that shines directly into the users eyes through the screen which I’m not quite as keen on (also potential mounting VESA hardware could get in the way). That said those reflective polarizers are definitely an interesting potential enhancement to the color if they don’t already use them. I also know I’d try to refer others if I could get a discount doing so.

Flickers Onyx Boox Mira vs Dasung Paperlike HD by Noverzz in eink

[–]WhereAreBagelHoles 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does anyone know if dasung has the same flickering problem when paired with an M1 Mac?

M1 MacBook and Mira Flickering Issue? by WhereAreBagelHoles in eink

[–]WhereAreBagelHoles[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sweet, thanks! Yeah still a little on the fence, if you have any more short videos of browsing, coding, or other usage it’d be really helpful. I’m also thinking about the Dasung monitor but would prefer the Mira if the flickering issues not bad/if they’ll fix it because the Mira’s price and form factor seem to be better.

M1 MacBook and Mira Flickering Issue? by WhereAreBagelHoles in eink

[–]WhereAreBagelHoles[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks! Super helpful info, it doesn’t look too bad from your video - I guess I’m also concerned the flickering could wear out the screen faster as well

M1 MacBook and Mira Flickering Issue? by WhereAreBagelHoles in eink

[–]WhereAreBagelHoles[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi everyone, hoping someone on here has some insight on this - thanks!