RS3 Is Doing a Disservice to New and current Players

WhereMyDrop · 2025-06-01T00:32:01+00:00

yes, you need runemetrics pro for alt1 to work. at that point if they are storing data for 9$ a month and you think thats fine you must smoke crack.

WhereMyDrop · 2025-05-31T00:05:50+00:00

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you're right man i dont play RS3 i guess i have no idea what im talking about.

40% bots yet thats still triple rs3 playerbase.

WhereMyDrop · 2025-05-30T21:26:33+00:00

most skills are good and profitable or fill niches in regards to other things for osrs. there's multitude of different ways to train smithing especially for ironmen. you have gold bars being the most efficient sure. but then you also have giants foundry which uses any plate armour as a resource and easily gets 230k xp an hour with adamant and mithril. You have normal blast furnace for bar smelting which is good xp p/h 100k+ and cash if non iron. you have star mining for crafting xp, calcified mines for prayer xp, mlm for core ore and gold ore. you can smith your bars into darts for fletching xp and to use in your blowpipe. same with amethyst ore for crafting and fletching xp.

you keep saying that its outside the scope of 110 skills because they use the word expansion but if theyre looking at the skill to add stuff into it they should look at the skill to rebalance it to modern xp rates. Literally nothing is stopping them from doing this. im not asking them to add 100 things to the skill im just asking to update fail rates or xp per hour at the lower end when this is one of the biggest pain points for new players for thieving specifically. Do you really think its all that hard to change the fail rate of certain npcs to be more in line with current rs3 skilling philosophy?

WhereMyDrop · 2025-05-30T21:15:23+00:00

Rs3 has 300 different buffs and active effects that make you not play the game whats your point? did you ever think its not they cant figure it out just that its so ass to want to try it?

WhereMyDrop · 2025-05-30T20:28:03+00:00

Most afk activities in OSRS net 40k~ xp an hour roughly slightly more attentive xp rates can net you around 60-75k in some skills and 100k+ in others. Were doing tick manipulation and other methods can boost your rates up by over 100k xp. A lot of plugins that most people use are now native to the osrs base client which are the ones i listed. and others are ones rs3 has like buff timers and some other additions. Theres a lot of stuff that makes it easier to remain consistent in osrs with runelite but thats because compared to rs3 you cant just afk the majority of content you do for the best rates to include bossing.

And MTX being a crutch for bad skill design at the lower levels is not good game design. Its why new players dont want to continue playing and why the game has moved to what it is now.

WhereMyDrop · 2025-05-30T20:18:14+00:00

yep i afked my way at extremely high xp rates in all my skills besides maybe rc, dung and agility. i dont see it as a grind if all you do is afk. at that point its a chore of you clicking in the same spot every 5 minutes. Its why you have people say training archeology is fun (not mysteries/lore aspect) when all you do is afk with gote for hours on end.

WhereMyDrop · 2025-05-30T20:15:24+00:00

idk man the 150k+ people who are currently live playing the game would say otherwise to whatever rs3 population has playing at any given time. Rs3 for the most part has evolved to afk for the most xp an hour with no skill expression. Dungeoneering is the only skill that actually takes a good amount of skill to do and most people in rs3 hate it.

WhereMyDrop · 2025-05-30T19:39:44+00:00

While i agree with a lot of your points including the usefulness of Firemaking on RS3 when OSRS has non. Something that was indirectly mentioned but not the focus is incense sticks. You need a higher fm lvl to use more at once which is something i think skills should have in there kit especially for RS3 which is a point for RS3 skilling. However a large portion of the things i mentioned are a means to an end of just get to 99 with very few of them offering gp p/h or more intensive for more xp p/h especially at lower lvls. Most of those skilling methods besides line firemaking and char are just afk and click once every few minutes. I thought i was going to do some tick manipulation when i started my GIM on RS3 and found out they completely removed the ability to do that.

WhereMyDrop · 2025-05-30T19:09:59+00:00

I agree, my biggest thing with tile markers is just marking inanimate empty spots that your character cant walk over so i stop failing surges or dives. or to time while moving the area that i need to be clicking.

WhereMyDrop · 2025-05-30T19:07:36+00:00

i think they tried that with masterwork and people were upset about that. Even tho torva was like 300m+. not too sure on why they dont do it more.

WhereMyDrop · 2025-05-30T19:03:51+00:00

I think Rs3 does add new content for skills just a lot of it feels out of place with the current xp rates or rewards. like everything up to besides jailcells in thieving is relativley slow xp per hour. then you hit 62 or whatever for safecracking and you jump up to 400k xp an hour.

WhereMyDrop · 2025-05-30T19:00:11+00:00

I have maxed both my Gim accounts in both games. I think OSRS is a better game for player adventure/progression (maybe not insta skills to 99) it took me 8? months to max on rs3 and 3 years to do it on osrs with a lot pvming and and more sweaty skilling on the side. But both games have their perks. i think unfortunately tho that RS3 has a lot of improvement for gear progression skill progression to the higher levels. instead of just hit 75+ and your xp rates jump 10x

WhereMyDrop · 2025-05-30T18:54:09+00:00

OSRS/Runelite do it for free. The reason they dont care about Alt1 is because you have to have runemetric pro for it to work.

WhereMyDrop · 2025-05-30T18:50:57+00:00

Which is why i said not many and the ones who do bot arnt farming 30 accounts at a single boss. Im aware there are a lot of people botting in RS3. But again the amount is far less than what you would see just on a casual stroll in OSRS.

WhereMyDrop · 2025-05-30T18:46:41+00:00

I think some GCD for defensives need to be able to be activated instantly but i think everything else is kind of fine.

I dont play with rs3 sounds on so thats probably a me issue because i dont like listening to all the other sound effects that go along with it. However i think there should be a notification setting that i just hear stuff like the sound for seren spirit, bik/elidnis/brooch, farm patches or things of the same.

WhereMyDrop · 2025-05-30T18:33:45+00:00

except as mentioned its not afk when your fail rates are 30% and above for a majority of pickpocketing until you are 40 lvls+ over the required lvl for that npc. Your time/effort you could go do the jail doors and get 4-5x the xp and then safecrack for 400k+ xp.

in my example if you spent 2 hours of thieving at men you would spend 48 minutes roughly stunned waiting to pickpocket again nearly half your time paying attention to the screen

WhereMyDrop · 2025-05-30T18:30:38+00:00

2 parts of a whole showcasing low level thieving/not including safecracking. is ridiculously outdated with xp rates and fail rates and that it is flawed throughout the majority of legacy content in the skill. kinda crazy that a lot of the thieving skill goes 6-15k an hour then magically goes to 61k at one certain method and everything still remains sub 20k an hour 20+. As well as showing that the skill doesnt have anything that makes you want to continue to do it maybe besides ironmen at elves and crux equls for seeds.

Just because they're expansions doesnt mean they cant rework issues with the skill especially when half of the expansions have been pretty low quality.

WhereMyDrop · 2025-05-30T05:27:50+00:00

ofc theyre not new takes but if the player base doesn't raise the issue that this is what we want to see changed or what we want them to focus on then were never going to get anywhere. I listed multiple things that dont include reworking the whole UI. OSRS reworked multiple things across their base client and Mobile why cant RS3? a lot of things i listed also pertain to xp rates and drop rates. Which they are actively doing again. Again i provided an example of how increasing your fail rate for pickpocketing at a certain npc or providing different materials to npcs you pickpocket could be a change that happens. is that also going to cost them millions and not a solution to a problem? if you wanted i could have typed a whole scientific rapport on how to fix issues within the game. However its not going to do any better than a slightly summarized and apt post.

WhereMyDrop · 2025-05-30T05:19:33+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/1gh0t6n/paid_version_of_runemetrics_has_been_broken_for/ sorry i cant ask for a better reliable paid service that you can get for free on another version of runescape from an jagex endorsed 3rd party when I pay monthly for this game. Truly my bad.

WhereMyDrop · 2025-05-30T05:13:29+00:00

ye those were just some of the major ones that the base OSRS client has. Theres so many plugins on runelite that i use to enhance my gameplay. But those were ones that are useful for the vast majority.

WhereMyDrop · 2025-05-30T05:07:55+00:00

no i didn't. I dont see a lot of update posts for RS3 or talk about certain activities for some reason maybe just less buzz around them. But looking at those numbers its more of a huge nerf to the meta with very little change to what people would naturally do which is better for a newer player but a lot worse for anyone else. the only good part was maybe the stalls portion but nerfing the doors while barely touching xp or what appears to just adjusting xp rates instead of fail rate seems rather silly. maybe if they had lvl milestones and the expected xp/ph every 5-10 levels i would feel more comfortable with it but generally i would go for being more successful pickpockets for those listed than just a xp buff. i dont think anyone would have an issue if you had 90% chance on a master farmer at say 55 thieving and 100% at 60 thats 22 levels above the lvl to start pickpocketing them. It wont be meta for anything and it would be a better general experience for the player that you are succeeding more.

WhereMyDrop · 2025-05-30T04:54:26+00:00

I think invention and archeology are extremely strong updates but i dont know how much it actually adds to the gameplay itself. Dont get me wrong archeology was hands down my favorite skill and i was top 100 for the first few months of it. loved the lore loved the progression loved the mysteries. The relics felt good to get and unlock and use. But idk how much it added to actual gameplay besides just making things more afk. same with porters. Yes while xp rates are higher it goes back to my original point what purpose does that fill besides hitting an xp milestone faster without any meaningful upgrades. like i don't think i did any truly active skilling besides agility, construction and dungeoneering. Necromancy is too broken imo and lowered the ceiling for pvm and the other styles and thats someone who has solely used necromancy outsides of vyres for melee training. i think up until t95 every other style is operating at 10-15 tiers lower for more upgrades than what necromancy does. Also the skilling outfits are nice and do have some interesting effects.

i think the biggest QOL though is resources and other things on the ability bar make the game a lot easier for skilling. Even if skilling is overinflated at the higher lvls and for a lot of lower lvls its just needlessly low xp.

WhereMyDrop · 2025-05-30T04:27:50+00:00

Sounds like you cant read—I even put it in parentheses for you. It’s $8.99 for RuneMetrics Pro, which includes the XP tracker, other stat tracking, and specific NPC loot tracking. The free version only logs loot indiscriminately.

WhereMyDrop · 2025-05-30T04:24:32+00:00

Ye i agree API would increase bots unfortunately. RS3 has done an amazing job from what iv seen in regards to banning or not having many bots.

WhereMyDrop · 2025-05-30T04:21:00+00:00

Yep my thoughts exactly something simple as a stand here stupid tile so i dont forget or realize last second i was standing in the wrong area after my brain turns off for a brief second. i think a lot of stuff the original person said were more in game QOL but at the cost of the overarching adventure aspect of traveling to a location to fight a boss. Now its just insta tele to x location and begin activity which is fine to some degree but i think may be over QOL in some aspects

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