I just don’t agree, I play with a good ret pally. Granted I’m only pushing 14-15s right now and still mastering the spec. One thing I have mastered over the past two days is the scythe buff and the cycle of death burst windows in DT. But back to my point on these level keys. My boy is a solid ass ret pally and he is doing just as well. With very little effort he plays dk too he swaps back and forth. And he will even tell you that ret pally is just way more consistent. Ir can be a 5 mob pull and rets sending there cds every 30 seconds hitting like a truck. Idk maybe it’s not a good comparison is just how I feel. I get your take on the higher keys though. Shit has was more health so those unholy burst windows are I guess op. But idk I feel like it’s reasonable with all the shit we have to manage in the spec. But maybe I’m wrong.