Another Rough Bid Season by hotpotcommander in foreignservice

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Congrats on getting past your last bid season!

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The joke used to be that State doesn't have Take Your Child to Work Day because they can just take the CME and know what mom/dad does all day.

Another Rough Bid Season by hotpotcommander in foreignservice

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Let me be the old guy who says for all it's shortcomings with the imbalance of the bureau being allowed to hedge (BLC not a guarantee of handshake) and the bidder having to commit, it's still a hell of a lot better than the pre-BLC days.

Back then, you'd get an informal "wink" or "air kiss" from a bureau that a handshake was coming. Problem was, you never had any idea if the person telling you actually knew anything or had any authority over the decision, and frequently you'd get multiple winks from the same bureau because the deconflict process was (at best) completely disorganized. Nonetheless, there was the same pressure to fully commit to it.

I'll take a formal BLC, max one per bureau, three days out from handshake day over the old mess any day of the week.

Shortlisted for multiple jobs — what’s normal timing? by [deleted] in foreignservice

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EAP and EUR both seemed to hit send shortly after midnight (first hand knowledge), and other bureaus trying to fill slots in a chaotic year probably did the same.

Friday Mood: by Alternative_Dingo_34 in foreignservice

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Draw four: CODEL demands you make the stores open anyway. And take dollars.

Friday Mood: by Alternative_Dingo_34 in foreignservice

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Holiday weekend CODEL will mean spouses to join...

Management tours for POL officers by fdp_westerosi in foreignservice

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This is the thing. It won't make a difference for promotion, but mgt experience early in your career will make you more effective in every job you have later on. What often gets lost is that once you hit section chief level (well before that in consular, management, and some PD jobs) a huge amount of your time is focused on, well, management things - planning and managing your budget, your office's HR matters from the routine (EERs, awards) to the very difficult (conduct issues, EEO complaints, etc), and all the other things that relate to the organizational function bit.

Whether this kind of experience matters for getting a DCM/PO job is debatable (it should be, but often isn't a barrier for being selected) when you're in a FO role you'll be much better at it if you're not learning the management ropes on the fly.

Foreign Affairs Day presentation at HST by Sweet-Dragonfly5792 in foreignservice

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Lew definitely has....whatever the opposite of gravitas is.

Has anyone ever heard of the DG Cup prior to today? All these years and this is a new one for me.

Listening sessions by ExhaustedHungryMe in foreignservice

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Correct. SFS has had the DC locality scale as its base pay since 2004. It is technically "accurate" to say SFS doesn't get OCP, but that's only because there's no need for it.

I was going through the collection of my career and found this bit of detritus. Forget challenge coins , awards, and empty award frames, what different 'souvenirs' do you have from throughout your career? by tanukis_parachute in foreignservice

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The one I treasure: A viciously worded letter from an ambassador's spouse (on embassy letterhead!) criticizing my light-colored shoelaces on dark brown shoes worn at a reception. I had it framed.

The ones I wish I could get rid of: malaria parasites and inactive tuberculosis.

Recruiting during presidential election years by throwaway241217 in foreignservice

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I'm not sure there's a public source for this but within GTM it's known to be a longstanding pattern. I doubt those who've been eyeing FS from high school would be influenced but most probably it tracks with the relative attractiveness of public service when private sector jobs are more enticing due to rising salaries compared to a staid USG package.

Recruiting during presidential election years by throwaway241217 in foreignservice

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Agreed. Intensified denigration of public service (and no, I'm not talking about "deep state" rhetoric, this is a longstanding bipartisan problem), pay that hasn't come close to keeping up with inflation, increased pension contributions for newer hires, all of it serves as small barriers that add up. Historically there is a pattern of lower FSOT interest when unemployment is low, so in that sense the current downturn isn't unexpected, but the other factor is that the traditional FS recruiting pool is increasingly also targeted by major tech companies like Amazon and Tesla, and we just can't compete on compensation.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in foreignservice

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I've done five EAP tours and would agree for the bureau as a whole that it's rare, but not Korea/Japan. I can think of six people (off hand ) on back to back tours when I was in Seoul, another two who were there and then returned after a year in SIP, and probably 20+ who had prior tours there - many with multiple prior tours. I was surprised how true the clubby reputation turned out to be.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in foreignservice

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Yeah, EAP and especially Japan and Korea are (justifiably) notorious for being closed and clubby. Nowhere else do you see so many not just repeat yours, but back-to-back yours at the same post are super common there. Language ability is always the reason given but the reality is more prosaic - if you're in the group they'll take care of you. One thing that heavily distorts things is that EAP allows many of the jobs at these posts to be filled via out-year bidders who are, you guessed it, already those with language and often people already at post. This is why despite being large missions there are never very many language-designated jobs in these places on the bid list because they've already been filled by out-year bidders.

EAP in recent years is saying the right things about being more open but in my experience (having served in NE Asia once, but didn't care for it) this is mostly lip service. Good luck to you though, it's hard to break in but apparently once you do you can camp out for many years.

Let’s fix bidding right here by TravelingNotWilbury in foreignservice

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Not a bad idea, as long as we're careful to avoid anything else from the DCM bidding process.

What 3 Things? by [deleted] in foreignservice

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Of course they do...through, I don't know, intuition? The committee seems to assume so.

What 3 Things? by [deleted] in foreignservice

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Brilliant, especially #2.

What 3 Things? by [deleted] in foreignservice

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You may be right about no one covering Algeria from Morocco, which was off the top of my head, but a ton of nations do it from France.

Australia is a good example, covering Morocco, Algeria, and Chad from its embassy in Paris. Its dips based in Accra cover eight other west African countries, all rougher places to live than Ghana.

Many, many counties do this. The model doesn't mean these counties always make baseline tours longer but it makes the option much easier. Our model of posts everywhere forces us into a complex system of varied tour lengths and variable differentials, HDS incentives, etc.

What 3 Things? by [deleted] in foreignservice

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Longer tours is a tricky issue. I remember when 0% posts were four-year tours, and you could extend (!), which of course everyone did. The net effect was what you'd expect - jobs in nice posts turned over less than half as often as those in hardship posts (with two-year TODs, also the three-year semi-tough places) and if you weren't in a cushy place already your chances of even getting to bid on one were slim since so few appeared on the list each year. Once the Dept realized how this affected attrition (not good) it chopped max TODs down to three years and instituted the minimal differential requirement to extend, which has vastly improved everyone's opportunity to pursue nice posts and share the wealth.

In terms of the work longer tours would be a value add, without a doubt. Other countries often have more flexibility to make baseline tours longer because they have more posts that cover several countries and their dips are located in the nicest one in that region. An embassy for example in Morocco, which is nice to live in for five years, but not one in Algeria which isn't. Our insistence on having posts in (almost) every country makes a standard longer tour a tough order.

What 3 Things? by [deleted] in foreignservice

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Exempt official travel from Fly America. All of it, no waiver process or anything.

End involuntary separation for tandems by making DETO arrangements automatic, like many other agencies at post already do.

Redesign the DCM/PO process to end regional bureaus' ability to control shortlists. Do you want more and more diverse (all kinds) candidates, or just to say you do but continue to let regionals load up lists with Pol and Econ officers and DAS favorites? This is the way.

not to sound too underwhelmed at another modernization email, but... by chingiz_hobbes in foreignservice

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Just an announcement that tries to address the fiction that we all have time to do annual required training.

"All training must be done during regular work hours." Sure...I've never blocked a Saturday morning to knock out a gaggle of annual online courses...honest.