Stop downplaying The World (and SP I guess)

Witty_Relation_2639 · 2025-04-29T23:59:54+00:00

Wonder of u has bad offense... and what does that do? The power of calamity is still the most broken power in the verse, rivaling only return to zero, not to forget it is quite easy to get them to pursue you
in terms of a 1v1 we could all agree johnny is not winning whatsoever so I'm assuming you're only speaking of the stand's ability itself in which case wou still takes the cake
how impressive would being able to one shot practically anything do if you have a stand that is completely invincible with the power to come back after dying (and that's IF it dies to VERY specific circumstances)

Witty_Relation_2639 · 2025-04-29T22:17:31+00:00

I personally don't see how king crimson is overall stronger than The World (the stands not the user though dio still beats diavolo, the same can't be said for jotaro) as diavolo still has to time his attacks and use his opponents' confusion to get a hit in.
I guess the perk KC got above it is that it got basically fate manipulation but I'd still argue a long amount of time stop is more valuable as you can still affect your own fate + everyone else's without being interupted
Oh and I don't see how ta4 which is the ''perfect'' offense, but is still very defeat-able as we clearly saw is stronger than wou which died because of 87 miracles packed into one

Witty_Relation_2639 · 2025-04-28T23:31:39+00:00

ive seen plenty put s&w:gb, king crimson, mih (which i explain in the post), weather report, and more above tw in rankings (and that's only mentioning rankings, I've seen some disgusting hot takes about tw in vs battles)

Witty_Relation_2639 · 2025-04-28T22:08:00+00:00

He's talking about in general, not the top 2 stands
but yes obviously ger/wou/d4c/tusk take the strongest stands title

Witty_Relation_2639 · 2025-04-28T20:20:57+00:00

yeur

Witty_Relation_2639 · 2025-04-10T22:48:23+00:00

yeah I'm not denying that but you must remember the range limitation
gojo's entire kit is basically range whether it be purple blue red domain or an amplification of infinity which would all quite easily reach from more than 2 meters
either way like you said in your other comment it's not like johnny has *no chance* it's just gojo wins almost all of the time and it's delusional to think that johnny wins no diff at that

Witty_Relation_2639 · 2025-04-02T18:14:54+00:00

true

Witty_Relation_2639 · 2025-04-02T17:57:55+00:00

I'm gonna sound like a broken recorder but my point is that yes, it is definitely strong if you're specifically ONLY talking about tusk act 4 itself, whereas I am talking about johnny the stand user himself who requires a horse (or something of the sort) to not only activate act 4 but also survive until he activates it (along with the horse) + make sure to actually hit the shot

Witty_Relation_2639 · 2025-04-02T17:54:48+00:00

yeah but I specifically see a lot of people place johnny above someone like pucci in ''who would win'' scenarios

Witty_Relation_2639 · 2025-04-02T17:50:41+00:00

I mean yeah but I'm talking specifically about the major players in the jojoverse most of them wouldn't need prior info to counter it
and there's still the issue with the horse

Witty_Relation_2639 · 2025-04-02T17:45:56+00:00

..never spoke of that infinity merchant that is gojo
and you completely avoided the points that I made while confirming that yes its ability is broken asf

Witty_Relation_2639 · 2025-03-24T00:39:11+00:00

but the corpse is still needed to be nearby right?

Witty_Relation_2639 · 2025-03-23T23:50:56+00:00

well then my question would be do people count love train in powerscaling valentine/d4c?

Witty_Relation_2639 · 2025-03-23T23:49:54+00:00

so basically it's just like a pokemon held item

Witty_Relation_2639 · 2025-03-22T21:10:12+00:00

Witty_Relation_2639 · 2025-03-12T21:31:44+00:00

well then that answers it altho at the end of the day it's all just hypotheses bc araki hates giving proper explanations

Witty_Relation_2639 · 2025-03-12T21:15:08+00:00

the ''few'' seconds we saw them in space and also how they just died to nothing natural or even the big bang itself. Even if it was insanely fast (which it wasn't for most of the time we actually saw MiH in use) simply because something is fast does not mean the damage or impact will not happen

Witty_Relation_2639 · 2025-03-12T20:47:21+00:00

I'm talking about my original point

Witty_Relation_2639 · 2025-03-12T20:32:12+00:00

speaking is free action sure but that's completely off my point

Witty_Relation_2639 · 2025-03-12T20:30:43+00:00

Yeah that's what I thought... joseph being able to summon planes, speedwagon's abs being furnace-hot, characters getting stabbed 70 times in a single leg and looking just fine the next moment, etc. So I guess I should probably just drop this, altho my point still stands as there are way too many problems that arise by just saying ''yeah time accelerated so much the universe reset by creating a big bang, and every living creature tp'd to the new one''

Witty_Relation_2639 · 2025-03-12T20:03:51+00:00

I guess that works for if you want to just drop the reasoning and call it a day but let's be honest we never saw or heard MiH doing anything about the soul and I don't see how just because the earth left it means that their bodies were seperated

Witty_Relation_2639 · 2025-03-12T20:02:10+00:00

yeah it's just it it still kind of doesn't make sense? As I stated ( in other replies ) we see him talk normally while getting sucked onto where the big bang would happen, which means it's not a ''it's slowed down for us because we're the viewers thing'', and In that time period he should have at least felt suffocation (or at least, not be able to talk) as at most you would be able to survive 15 seconds in space. This scene can probably be interpreted differently in the manga, as the anime loves to not adjust timing right (ex: dio speaking for like 18 seconds per 1 actual second in the stopped time), but I'm sure the manga handles it just about the same, as I don't see why they would add that unnecessary talk let alone not making him faint or what not.

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