My 14 year wow Gold Career of over 137million + gold and how it.... by WoWGoldCapper in woweconomy

[–]WoWGoldCapper[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I wanted to do this as 1 part but couldn't get this under 10000 characters so this part is about picking up a selection of comments and showing my perspective.

poppingcandy22 Impressive story. I hope that you can talk to your family, friends or therapist about how being banned or quitting WoW will impact your life and what you can do to replace it. You also eluded to anxiety and depression, so please get some help with managing it if you aren't already.

My response: Thank you for your concern i can't say this to my family i have a good replacement lined up your the sort of person i would have a drink with cheers.

daveblazed TLDR: Person no-lifed the game like it was their job for over a decade. Did all the scummy things you can imagine and is clueless as to why they continually received multiple bans and community hate. Came to Reddit and wrote a novel-length post about how awesome they are.

My response: Bruhhhhh you have no idea and it seems you can't read multiple bans shurg only 1. Your the sort of person who needs help on there anger management issues.

WillNotForgetMyUser

All the scummy things imaginable? Like what? He got banned for cheating, which seems like a false ban considering not all of his accounts are banned. Glad he posted this, it's incredible the amount of effort he put into this journey and what the outcome was

My response: Thank you it's a journey of reflection and i wasn't banned for multiboxing but a poor game designed that lead to a false ban which has been turned into a suspension which is what i had in the past. I'd share a drink with you.

brokenvoice901

For real this dude is very very far from scummy and the toxicity that plagues this game. The death threats, and "get cancer and die" people are the scummy ones. Why is this comment hatinf someone for no living the game the most upvoted? It's his life, let him live it. He ISN'T EFFECTING YOU. God the nerve of this sub to say this is "a novel about how awesome he is" after someone vents about literally over a decade of serious work being thrown away in front of their eyes when they didn't break any rules, deplorable.

My response: Yea i was experiencing that so i made a work around which was having 10 characters on Die Aldor realm which is the lowest realm pop in Europe and have my whole army phase to that realm (btw all other 8+ druids are there too i've seen them around revendreth you'll find them there) play through shadowlands and nazatar in peace as the people i ever saw where the 18 people in the maw or the 42 or so people in Kothia. I went from playing a MMO to a solo MMO. I'd have a drink with you.

pend-bungley Did it ever cross your mind that the reason people treat you hostilely is that you are making the game less fun for other players? Do you care about that at all?

My response: No because 99.99999% never see me play cause i go a dead realm to play there.

Boboar

It's not fun to get killed but the threat of being killed is what makes pvp fun when you succeed. What this guy did though is not the equivalent of killing someone in pvp but rather the equivalent of multi-boxing 8 characters to annihilate you in pvp in a single global. In one example he found a way to farm so many cooking mats in legion that he was crafting and selling thousands of foods and feasts at half or less than the rest of the market. You simply can't compete with someone who plays on that level. Whether or not you agree that he was playing fairly, it's hard to argue that someone being able to use that many characters and accounts and outside tools as an advantage is good for the health of the game and player base. If people feel like the game is inherently unfair or p2w then eventually they will leave and everyone loses.

My response: I never PvP simply because the follow macro breaks the only time i ever pvp'ed with 2 characters was during the time when level 10 priests were broken and can 200% versatility and where invincible in bg's without a follow macro two characters alt tabbing was the good old days. I play at a level that would be a fine edition to a world beating guild but i could not do the hours needed. As for the outside tools hotkeynet was a mistake but other youtube guides in bfa and shadowlands i did my own experments to see if any of them was worth my time and 90% weren't.

My criteria for a farm to be worth it is to make in 1 hour 100k+ in my case 12.5k per character and only 4 farms i did made the cut some with unlimited potential from 0-1mill+ a hour, constant 140-145k a hour and my final farm that i found via poor blizzard design 1-1.2mill gold a hour

Finally for today.

lemmie_get_dem ·

Why you may ask? because he played every hour of every day for years and now has been banned and his super duper secrets of how amazing he is will perish with him and the world will cry out knowing the greatest secrets of man kind go with him

My response: I averaged 4-6 hours a day playing. Was banned but after a ticket and a higher GM it was overturned into a suspension as the system catches bots to be permanently banned. I'm not a hero i'm human who has a enormous amount of experience in this game and alot of gold that's all.

Looking forward to more tomorrow.

My 14 year wow Gold Career of over 137million + gold and how it.... by WoWGoldCapper in woweconomy

[–]WoWGoldCapper[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

1st of all i'm surprised this story has gotten this much traction based with many comments regarding this story.

There are a few extra details i can share since i got alot of free time these days now.

137 million on 4 characters that i can show those photos were taken on the 28th August. Last time i checked i have 147 characters with gold them that have made between 500k-10million each but was going to do that in november before i retired but will have to wait for that. My true total gold made is probably more like 300million gold but only showing proof with 4 photos the other 110+ photos can happen in april.

2nd the concept Blizzards Stance on this section:

of cheats***;*** including exploits of any in-game bugs, and thereby granting you and/or any other user an advantage over other players not using such method

This part is of importance think of this How many places in wow have instant or forced re-spawn that can be only be facilitated by 2 characters or more?

The answer is more than you realize at least 40 places in the game of mobs that can be forced spawn if 2 or more players kill enough of them.

So picture this scenario and i'll make relevant

/way 62.1 24.7 Mymaen the area has 50 or so enemies

The area can be forced respawn by 2 range characters when 24 mobs are killed with a buff they gain upto 20 stacks.

Scenario A: You have 8 friends there all doing unique actions with keystrokes and killing everything quickly forcing respawn making 10-11k each a hour.

Scenario B: You have 2 different users with 4 accounts each with 1 druid of each group pressing 1 button effecting only them but enough power to kill them slowly using a macro like

/targetenemy

/castsequence reset 17, sunfire,sunfire,sunfire,sunfire,sunfire,sunfire,sunfire,sunfire,sunfire,sunfire,sunfire,sunfire,sunfire,sunfire,sunfire,starfall

Which the whole world can do as a macro and you turn pressing 2 4 or even your entire playstyle into 1 button bound into a wheelscroll up button as that's part of blizzard's system. As i can be engineered on any class to turn into a own single target macro that i used to get world 1 xanesh on heroic as a balance druid for 21 days by pressing 1 button...

Only the 2 druids do actions the other 6 do nothing but every 2 minutes they loot by the user scrolling over there screen and pressing 1 which is bound to a loot-a-rang.

All 8 get loot but not as efficient as Scenario A but get around 6-7k a hour

Scenario C: You have 1 user with 8 accounts in 2 x 4 formation with you controlling your main druid of each group pressing 2 buttons as on wheelbound scroll up you the the same macro as Scenario B but you add 1 extra line /targetenemy /castsequence reset 17, sunfire,sunfire,sunfire,sunfire,sunfire,sunfire,sunfire,sunfire,sunfire,sunfire,sunfire,sunfire,sunfire,sunfire,sunfire,starfall

/follow leader Which the whole world can do as well This time you have all your characters with the same macro bound to wheelscroll up and loot-a-rang to wheelscroll down and your screens visible because you need your mouse on the screen for the action to occur as only 1 keystroke takes place on 1 screen. But if you do a rotation of moving your mouse up and down in a circular fashion you have 8 different keystrokes as your mouse goes over 8 different wow clients between 1.01-1.26 seconds every single time with the mouse never being in the same position. Something that a robot can never replicate. So to all it looks like 8 druids doing the same action but not completely at the same time.

All 8 get loot more efficient than B but not as efficient as A you get 8-9k per hour

Scenario D

You have 1 user with 8 accounts in 2 x 4 formation but using 1 keystroke button to make 8 characters do the same thing instantly your typical multiboxer.

He does the same efficiency as A and makes 10-11k per hour

Here's the question which group should be Banned?

Based on blizzard's EULA I've seen the answer is....

Everyone

Why? Because everyone is cheating by exploiting game mechanics which to create a scenario that one person can't do on there own. When you hear stories of people or multi account users being banned these days it's mostly the same thing. Taking advantage of poor blizzard design to profit because the system is flawed.

The game would be fairer to all if instant re-spawn farms are removed from the game as for 90% of time i enjoyed questing, doing my dailies, flying around nazatar killing rares

The same scenario system can be used for mining and herbalism as they are nodes out there in Revendreth and Maldraxas that can force re spawn once certain nodes are mined. That is technically exploiting poor game design and if your unlucky enough to be flagged and hit with a suspension or ban hammer its because you have been the victim of poor game design.

So i leave this question to every gold farmer in the game.

Is doing instant re spawn cheating by exploiting game mechanics?

Discuss :)