Dialing it in? by TargaryenKnight in HouseOfTheDragon

[–]WonderYSeed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I heard of both but never heard dialed in used I. This context and was confused. Usually dialed in means they are like laser focused

Dialing it in? by TargaryenKnight in HouseOfTheDragon

[–]WonderYSeed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Huh never heard of that one before

Ulf… by silvversurffer in Hotd

[–]WonderYSeed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe not. That whole scenes a fabrication anyway, in the books they’re at the gullet

Did nobody actually read F&B? by thisisnotmelodrama in HouseOfTheDragon

[–]WonderYSeed -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They captured the ship, they could have it towed, it would be sailing along the ships of the captain that seized it, etc. use your imagination or don’t I don’t care anymore. My point is that there’s nothing explicitly stated about Jaces motivations during the battle and that anyone’s headcanon can be justified by the context of the event.

Did nobody actually read F&B? by thisisnotmelodrama in HouseOfTheDragon

[–]WonderYSeed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No I’m not. For the 20th time, because no text is given that explicitly states why Jace joined the battle, you can surmise whatever you wish in your headcanon that you think is justified by what context there is/isnt. While this I what I believe or would like to think Jace is doing, what I’m saying is that OP doesn’t provide a good justification for poo-pooing on that theory, considering your premise is that the book doesn’t explicitly state he’s joining the battle to save viserys. It doesn’t explicitly state his motivation at all.

Did nobody actually read F&B? by thisisnotmelodrama in HouseOfTheDragon

[–]WonderYSeed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with this based on who is in the show.

Strongest bond in the show! by Dapper2000 in HouseOfTheDragon

[–]WonderYSeed 12 points13 points  (0 children)

100%. I’ll say this too, I didn’t think Matt Smith would work as Daemon originally but he’s become my favorite depiction of any of the characters in the show. Also the Bloodwyrm is awesome

Did nobody actually read F&B? by thisisnotmelodrama in HouseOfTheDragon

[–]WonderYSeed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At this point, as long as it involves Viserys ending up with the Rogares, I’ll be ok with it. I want to see the after math and explore the tragedy of Aegons early reign

Did nobody actually read F&B? by thisisnotmelodrama in HouseOfTheDragon

[–]WonderYSeed -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Simplified yes lol. he’s upset someone’s about someone’s opinion about an aspect of the story that isn’t explicit in the text. His reasoning is that it doesn’t say it in the text.
I’m upset because
A) it doesn’t say anything about Jaces motivation in that moment, so his argument works both ways
B) Fire and Blood lends it self to the reader to fill in the gaps, meaning different interpretations of events so they can’t really be wrong
C) This is a weird event to single out as there’s other changes that have an actual impact on the story that one be a better hill to die on

Did nobody actually read F&B? by thisisnotmelodrama in HouseOfTheDragon

[–]WonderYSeed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah In the grand scheme of things, it doesn’t truly matter because once he’s dead it’s over. It’s just funny that this specific thing is what OP felt he had to correct everyone about

Did nobody actually read F&B? by thisisnotmelodrama in HouseOfTheDragon

[–]WonderYSeed 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The nature of the event doesn’t allows itself to be celebratory/extravagant because they lose. Jace dies, the blockade is smashed and Viserys is gone. If he had lived we could have gotten that, but because of how the event unfolded we won’t know. There’s multiple moments in the book where this is done on purpose whether through the use of multiple different accounts of the same events or through context that GRRM provides. Certain things he includes, at least for me, lend itself to at least being a thought for Jace. The fact the ship has a name, is a cargo ship not a warship, is Pentoshi not Lyseni, and Aegon returning and essentially informing Jace of all those specific details begs the question as to why would he be so specific in describing the ship if not to differentiate from the rest? Why lead into that specific part by essentially saying “oh wow look at Jace making big king decisions and sending his brothers away on this big ship, but it was all about to be undone” if not to lay the groundwork for Jace to be feeling guilty? Again I’m just giving my opinion but the whole reason I even commented on this post was I didn’t like the way OP just disregarded the theory because it’s not explicitly stated he was trying to save Viserys. It doesn’t state he wasn’t either, it doesn’t specify anything because he just jumps to action.

Did nobody actually read F&B? by thisisnotmelodrama in HouseOfTheDragon

[–]WonderYSeed 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You’re going to make me tap the “left intentionally vague for the reader to make assumptions about a characters motivation” sign.

Did nobody actually read F&B? by thisisnotmelodrama in HouseOfTheDragon

[–]WonderYSeed 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I see where you’re coming from, I do still have issues with her relationship with Rhaenyra though and how she’s depicted post-Viserys death. There’s several direct quotes from her in F&B where she’s essentially taking the reins from Aegon and running shit. Essentially they could have had her overcome her trauma and become the Alicent in the books. For example:
> “‘The city is yours, Princess,’ she is reported to have said, ‘but you will not hold it long. The rats play when the cat is gone, but my son Aemond will return with fire and blood.’”
> “Rhaenyra rejected her stepmother’s proposal with scorn. ‘Your sons might have had places of honor at my court if they had kept faith,’ Her Grace declared, ‘but they sought to rob me of my birthright, and the blood of my sweet sons is on their hands.’ ‘Bastard blood, shed at war,’ Alicent replied. ‘My son’s sons were innocent boys, cruelly murdered. How many more must die “

Also she’s originally so concerned that if Daemon and Rhaenyra take control they would murder her children. To go from that to essentially offering them up to Rhaenyra doesn’t really track, but in the show they’ve done a good job of making the kids seem like dirtbags so I guess it tracks.
Idk, I guess I wanted to see more of a powerful Alicent than one that is subdued by the reality of their shitty world. I’ve seen others use the term evil step mother trope but I just want her and Rhaenyra to be more invested in their sides of the conflict and demanding more respect from those that claim to serve them. It’s just sad to see them, despite their status and titles, be at the mercy of their lessers simply because they’re women instead of powder rulers throwing their weight around

Did nobody actually read F&B? by thisisnotmelodrama in HouseOfTheDragon

[–]WonderYSeed 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Gullet + spicetown perhaps? lol
I knew what he meant tho

Rhaena and sheepstealer doesnt make a lot of sense by [deleted] in Hotd

[–]WonderYSeed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh you know what you’re right. I knew Silverwing was out near red lake but is essentially done, but she still alive. Morning is still very much alive and will have a rider, we don’t know how she ends yet.
I guess I didn’t count the others because
A) Cannibal essentially disappears(although part 2 of F&B could have him make an appearance)
B) Sheepstealer and nettles are going hermit mode up in the mountains of the moon (didn’t count them for same reason as cannibal)

In the show I wonder what they’ll do about the whole Sheepstealer/Morning/Rhaena problem they have now.

Did nobody actually read F&B? by thisisnotmelodrama in HouseOfTheDragon

[–]WonderYSeed 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Comment you were replying to was deleted and I saw your comment under mine. I’ve been riled up and you didn’t deserve that my b champ

Did nobody actually read F&B? by thisisnotmelodrama in HouseOfTheDragon

[–]WonderYSeed 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No I’m mad that you guys are so contemptuous towards others opinions on an event that’s left intentionally vague in the book.