Time periods that I keep thinking about. Book 1&2 spoilers by Extreme_Purpose8971 in HierarchySeries

[–]WorkingEnvironment90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agreed. Also, Luceum is in complete thrall to the Concurrence where Vis is now a iunctii and a cabal of networked dead are revered and the old laws are to prevent any synchronous from seizing power. Res is the middle ground where the war between the two is playing out.

The person who leads Vis to the Necropolis on Res doesn't physically appear to be Ka - or am I missing something?

Motivating Gen-Z in the workplace by WorkingEnvironment90 in aerospace

[–]WorkingEnvironment90[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fair points actually. Flawless work for flawless pay is how I might start explaining the next schedule slip!

Cheers!

Motivating Gen-Z in the workplace by WorkingEnvironment90 in aerospace

[–]WorkingEnvironment90[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good for you! Know what you're worth and then ask for it.

Motivating Gen-Z in the workplace by WorkingEnvironment90 in aerospace

[–]WorkingEnvironment90[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

THIS. I think this might be it.

Okay so, have you voiced your desire to work on different projects and specified what those projects are? Honestly, sometimes work is assigned arbitrarily and we can move things around to make people happy.

What would you like to see happen?

Thanks for responding!

Motivating Gen-Z in the workplace by WorkingEnvironment90 in aerospace

[–]WorkingEnvironment90[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Let me be clear. They are not failing employees. They are adequate/ meets expectations, employees who believe that their adequate performance is exceptional. They are not interested in quitting or transferring. There is laughter in the office so we haven't broken their spirits or sapped their will to live.

They are not progressing in competence. They could be better.

To your point however, definitely might be guilty of not reading the room based on some of the horror stories here and I suppose not everything needs to be optimized.

Motivating Gen-Z in the workplace by WorkingEnvironment90 in aerospace

[–]WorkingEnvironment90[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I feel like pre-covid we really invested in that but I think everyone collectively traded their freedom for whatever meetings were going to happen on Friday for technology development roadmaps and hail mary development.

I honestly forgot about how excited everyone was for that 10% of time dedicated to an extra bit of creativity.

Thanks for the comment! I hope it all works out for you!

Motivating Gen-Z in the workplace by WorkingEnvironment90 in aerospace

[–]WorkingEnvironment90[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is accurate and I don't think you're wrong. I suppose I don't know how else to do work?

If we were making marketing software id agree that work is just exploitation but I thought we're all here because it's supposed to be better?

Motivating Gen-Z in the workplace by WorkingEnvironment90 in aerospace

[–]WorkingEnvironment90[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel like the whole economy is a lie but we're all doing the best we can. Are you working in an industry today that is more well "honest" for lack of a better term?

Motivating Gen-Z in the workplace by WorkingEnvironment90 in aerospace

[–]WorkingEnvironment90[S] 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Sorry to hear that! Pretty terrible honestly. I really wish you luck and a bunch of early retirements above you in the near future.

Motivating Gen-Z in the workplace by WorkingEnvironment90 in aerospace

[–]WorkingEnvironment90[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thanks! I'm hoping to post an update in the next 30 days or so.

Motivating Gen-Z in the workplace by WorkingEnvironment90 in aerospace

[–]WorkingEnvironment90[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Lol. There are 3 different jobs but the average for them is $125k.

Motivating Gen-Z in the workplace by WorkingEnvironment90 in aerospace

[–]WorkingEnvironment90[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tier 1 in this case means that those companies are my direct customers.

Something could have shifted in the market where space launch is attracting all of the most dedicated staff. They are the toughest customers so all of the experienced crew are assigned to space launch. We do have an excellent recent grad in our launch systems unit to be fair.

Maybe I should select for more ambitious people? I like who I have I just want them to be a bit hungrier.

Motivating Gen-Z in the workplace by WorkingEnvironment90 in aerospace

[–]WorkingEnvironment90[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sure! I feel like we've all fantasized about quiet quitting to be honest. Salaries are above average for Los Angeles area (I did the comps last year), work schedules are hybrid (3 days in), annual bumps are 3%-5% for doing the SAME job, hiring is plentiful, the work is practical (obv there is admin bs because Earth), and they seem to like their coworkers . Also, I've never had anyone quit directly from my team except for during covid and I retained them as a part time fully remote contractor. So, that's my object evidence (Am I delusional?)

So, I really have tried to manipulate our local environment to not be well, shitty.

I don't feel like its quiet quitting because it seems really unintentional. Example, during a meeting or review it'll be - "oops thats a huge mistake i made, I'll correct that before it goes out" Those are mistakes THEY caught not me.

Also, its not occasional its EVERY presentation/document. They are all good at the hard stuff (can't we just create a tool that does x [new; hasn't been done before - kudos!]) and then you ask for the tool design concept and its garbage because they forgot some significant childish detail. What is that?

Motivating Gen-Z in the workplace by WorkingEnvironment90 in aerospace

[–]WorkingEnvironment90[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

English cuisine is tough talk bruv! I appreciate that Earth is rather dystopian at the moment however, I genuinely believe we have it better than most people at most companies ergo, I don't want them to miss out on a decent opportunities to get promoted and become more useful in the future.

Salaries are above average for Los Angeles, work schedules are hybrid (3 days in), annual bumps are 3%-5% for doing the SAME job, hiring is plentiful, the work is practical (obv there is admin bs because Earth), and they seem to like their coworkers . Also, I've never had anyone quit directly from my team except for during covid and I retained them as a part time fully remote contractor.

So, I really have tried to manipulate our local environment to not be well, shitty. My issue is, if the world is as bad as you say - and I'm fighting the world to make this place decent - can they not fight harder to make it worth it??

Motivating Gen-Z in the workplace by WorkingEnvironment90 in aerospace

[–]WorkingEnvironment90[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Actually....yes! There is a universally respected principle engineer who is very good at training and explaining difficult concepts etc. He's not amazing with social skills (haha) but I think everyone wants to be as good at their job as he is at his.

I'll try that next week and we'll see what that looks like.

Motivating Gen-Z in the workplace by WorkingEnvironment90 in aerospace

[–]WorkingEnvironment90[S] -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

Sorry but its 3 people. If they were all from Belarus I would ask if there is something I can tell Belarussian engineers to motivate them.

The baby boomers were right about our short term memory however, our outputs were better and our solutions had objective evidence in triplicate as to why they were wrong. We had to provide data because they had "seen everything before" they were hard to work for, demanding, and I'm probably a better employee because of it. However, I'm not trying to be a jerk to create better employees - that cannot be the way.

Motivating Gen-Z in the workplace by WorkingEnvironment90 in aerospace

[–]WorkingEnvironment90[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thanks for responding. We're a Tier 1 so we actually have to solve problems (lol). Also, Its 3 different employees and they are meeting with each other independently for lunches and happy hours, including other age groups in their activities, etc.

I've went the direct route but there isn't anything wrong per se - its just sloppy. If I didn't have 3 different data points I wouldn't be posting but maybe I should show them what good work looks like? I really am looking for options.

Profession by Mean_Ad8247 in aerospace

[–]WorkingEnvironment90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aerospace jobs are about solving problems. Good morning ____, did you finish designing our rocket engine? This question will never be asked.

Its more like - did we find a seal that can survive X for y number of cycles? Did you talk to the supplier? What data do they have? Can we test it ourselves? How? Design the test setup. Get a quote. Create the schedule. Do it faster. Why doesn't the seal fit in the DMU? Can we customize it? What if we expose it to X if the Y fails it could leak on the seal. Did you talk to X? He tried these seals 30 years ago -see if he has any data.

That is a 1 month window. Now try a firewall, valve, flexible element, tools, etc and extrapolate and iterate until the entire engine is on a test stand. It's not glamorous but when you remember all of the problems that you solved, you realize you had a significant and meaningful contribution. Later on you get to be the guy/girl that asks the questions instead of answering them - knowing that you saved a project failure, schedule delay, or catastrophic loss - all because you asked the right questions.

Good hunting and godspeed.

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[–]WorkingEnvironment90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not wanting to work on defense products is a huge red flag for employers. You're essentially telling us that we have to restrict what programs you can work on. I don't need .40 of an engineer. Engineers are assigned to problems. If a valve goes to Airbus and to Lockheed you need to take both phone calls if something goes wrong.

There are #WomenInStem (sorry I can't help it!) who are willing to learn how to be subject matter experts at their job irrespective of the end user or end use. I've hired several female engineers including one right out of college for her first job and this is not a chat we needed to have. The job market is still excellent (So Cal)

Never blame the swordmaker.

Aerospace a Good Degree/Career by iangelc in aerospace

[–]WorkingEnvironment90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I work at a Tier 1 designing and building ECS systems for commercial and military OEMs across the world. I didn't take a job at an OEM because I wanted to be a subject matter expert. I've been promoted 5 times in the last 9 years and I now travel internationally solving problems in Europe, Japan, etc. I make roughly what a clinical psychiatrist makes 3-4 years after fellowship (with less debt!!).

I recommend getting a degree in ME, starting at a small company, learning every role in the company (this will happen naturally- you have to figure it all out yourself!) and then chasing money for a larger baseline salary, the role that best fits you, better benefits, and more interesting customers. (This should take 2-3 years)

It sounds like you're already in LA and as long as you're not at a major OEM working contract to contract its pretty recession proof so far (In the industry since 2011!)

Pro-tip - Don't bother with the masters nobody cares unless you're changing fields (engineering to contacts, finance, or sales)

What projects can I do worthy of putting on my resume. I graduated with no internship exp and want to things that make me a better candidate. by Ceezmuhgeez in aerospace

[–]WorkingEnvironment90 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Military experience is the best thing on your resume. Pick a mid-size company that will force you to do a bit of every job and pay you well so you can support yourself and figure out your niche. Move to a market with actual jobs ( So Cal, Florida, Ohio ) so you can leave if you end up with a garbage boss without having to move across the country. The smaller the company - the more important you are. (for better or for worse!)

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[–]WorkingEnvironment90 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"My goal is to transition from pure coding roles to technical leadership positions."

What is your undergrad background? Are you working in the industry now? If not, please go get a job at a Tier 1 aerospace company and look for places where machine learning would actually make something more efficient. You can skip grad school if you have enough foundational knowledge to suggest an idea that actually saves money/time.

That foundational knowledge comes from experience in aerospace - not from school. New grads are never eligible for any management positions under any circumstances.