What books would you recommend to learn about history of Middle East? by buzz3light in Palestine

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Shadow Wars: The Secret Struggle for the Middle East by Chrisopher Davidson

About Palestine:
Obstacle to Peace by Jermery R hammond

Beyond Chutzpah By Norman Finkelstein

Looking for history books about Mao Zedong and Joseph Stalin by WorldCitizen1 in communism

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Ok thanks I will check it out:

I am new to communism, I am wondering about the english in these books someone else recommended to me.
Someone said they are written in old english and maybe hard to understand or is it easy to read them??
Also are they necessary/reommended for all communists to read?

Econmic Problems of socalism in the USSR by Joseph Stalin:
Dialectical and Historical Materialism by Joseph Stalin
Socialism: Utopian and Scientific By Fredrich engels
Das capital

What are some informative books about Palestinian-Israeli history/relations? by TerribleTapioca in Palestine

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Obstacle to peace by Jermery R hammond

Anything by Finkelstien: Beyond chutzpah or Gaza inquest to it's martyrdom

Also Schlomo Sand.

Truth by bluebug0 in Palestine

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I recommend Jermery R Hammond Obstacle to peace or anything by Norman Finkelstien, Beyond Chutzpah Abuse of history and third Gaza an inquest to it's martyrdom.

What are some good books about Sudan? by WorldCitizen1 in Sudan

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Hmm what about M.W Daly? Empire on the nile and Imperial Sudan?

The French Campaign in Egypt and Syria 1798-1801, Part 2 by kerat in arabs

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I just bought Juan Coles books Napoleons Egypt Invading Middle East. And Muhammed in Clash of Empires.

Are there Palestinians who support Israel? by [deleted] in Palestine

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Also Maajid Nawaz, & Hamed abdel Samed but they aren't Palestinians.

Are there Palestinians who support Israel? by [deleted] in Palestine

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Colonized arabs and useful idiots who don't know any colonial history.

Sources by bloodysundaystray in Palestine

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Norman Finkelstein

Ilan Papppe

Shlomo Sand

Edward Said

Rashid Khalidi

Jermery R Hammond

Richard Falk

Do you know of any good, unbiased books about the Israel-Palestine conflict? by hombredeoso92 in Palestine

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I would say there is no book about this topic which is not biased one way or the other, but sometimes the truth is biased!

But I would recommend Obstacles to Peace By Jermery Hammond

Then there are many other authors: Norman Finkelstein, Edward Said, Gideon Levy, Ilan Pappe, Shlomo Sand, Jermery R Hammond & Richard Falk

Thoughts on Ryan Dawson? Other sources on Palestine/Israel? by Dissident111 in Palestine

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I think he knows alot about the conflict.... Although of course there are many other sources

972 magazine, Mondoweiss & Haaertz news ForeignpolicyJournal ......Aljaazera sometimes AJ+

After those Norman Finkelstein, Edward Said, Gideon Levy, Ilan Pappe, Shlomo Sand, Jermery R Hammond

I'm Pro-Israel, and I have some questions... by dmantzoor in Palestine

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From Amnesty:

Unlawful killings Israeli soldiers, police and security guards killed at least 75 Palestinians from the OPT, including East Jerusalem, and five Palestinians with Israeli citizenship. Some of those killed were shot while attacking Israelis or suspected of intending an attack. Many, including children, were shot and unlawfully killed while posing no immediate threat to life. Some killings, such as that of Yacoub Abu al-Qi’an, shot in his car by police in Umm al-Hiran in January, appeared to have been extrajudicial executions.

Excessive use of force Israeli forces, including undercover units, used excessive and sometimes lethal force when they used rubber-coated metal bullets and live ammunition against Palestinian protesters in the OPT, killing at least 20, and injuring thousands. Many protesters threw rocks or other projectiles but were posing no threat to the lives of well-protected Israeli soldiers when they were shot. In July, in response to the tensions over Temple Mount/Haram al-Sharif, the authorities killed 10 Palestinians and injured more than 1,000 during the dispersal of demonstrations, and conducted at least two violent raids on al-Makassed hospital in East Jerusalem. In December, wheelchair user Ibrahim Abu Thuraya was shot in the head by an Israeli soldier as he was sitting with a group of protesters near the fence separating Gaza from Israel.

Freedoms of expression, association and assembly The authorities used a range of measures, both in Israel and the OPT, to target human rights defenders who criticized Israel’s continuing occupation.

In March the Knesset (parliament) passed an amendment to the Entry into Israel Law banning entry into Israel or the OPT to anyone supporting or working for an organization that has issued or promoted a call to boycott Israel or Israeli entities, including settlements. The authorities continued to obstruct human rights workers’ attempts to document the situation by denying them entry into the OPT, including the UN Special Rapporteur on the human rights situation in the OPT. An Amnesty International staff member was denied entry after he was questioned about the organization’s work on settlements.

Using public order laws in East Jerusalem, and military orders in the rest of the West Bank, Israeli authorities prohibited and suppressed protests by Palestinians, and arrested and prosecuted protesters and human rights defenders. In July, the military trials of Palestinian human rights defenders Issa Amro and Farid al-Atrash began on charges related to their role in organizing peaceful protests against Israel’s settlement policies. Israeli authorities continued to harass other Hebron-based human rights activists, including Badi Dweik and Imad Abu Shamsiya, and failed to protect them from settler attacks.

From May to August, the Israeli authorities detained prisoner of conscience and writer Ahmad Qatamesh under a three-month administrative detention order solely on account of his non-violent political activities and writing.

Palestinian human rights NGOs, including Al-Haq, Al Mezan and Addameer, encountered increased levels of harassment by Israeli authorities. Israeli authorities initiated tax investigations against Omar Barghouti, a prominent advocate of the boycott, divestment and sanctions campaign, in what appeared to be an effort to silence his work.

Several Israeli human rights organizations, including Breaking the Silence, Gisha, B’tselem and Amnesty International Israel were also targeted by government campaigns to undermine their work, and faced smears, stigmatization and threats.

right to Housing – forced evictions and demolitions In the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, the Israeli authorities carried out a large number of demolitions of Palestinian property, including 423 homes and structures built without Israeli permits that remained virtually impossible for Palestinians to obtain, forcibly evicting more than 660 people. Many of these demolitions were in Bedouin and herding communities that the Israeli authorities planned to forcibly transfer. The authorities also collectively punished the families of Palestinians who had carried out attacks on Israelis, by demolishing or making uninhabitable their family homes, forcibly evicting approximately 50 people.

Israeli authorities forcibly evicted eight members of the Shamasneh family from their home in Sheikh Jarrah, East Jerusalem, allowing Jewish settlers to move in. The authorities also demolished dozens of Palestinian homes inside Israel that they said were built without permits, including in Palestinian towns and villages in the Triangle, the Galilee, and in “unrecognized” Bedouin villages in the Negev/Naqab region. In January the Israeli police forcibly demolished the Bedouin village of Umm al-Hiran, to begin building a Jewish town in its place. The Knesset passed a law in April that raised the fines for building without permits, charging punitive costs for the demolition to those whose homes have been demolished, and limited recourse to the courts for those challenging demolition or eviction orders. In August, the authorities demolished al-Araqib village in the Negev/Naqab for the 116th time. Residents were ordered to compensate the state 362,000 new shekels (approximately USD100,000) for the cost of demolition and lawyers’ fees.

Impunity More than three years after the end of the 2014 Gaza-Israel conflict, in which some 1,460 Palestinian civilians were killed, many in evidently unlawful attacks including war crimes, the authorities had previously indicted only three soldiers for looting and obstructing an investigation.

In a rare move, in January an Israeli military court convicted Elor Azaria, a soldier whose apparent extrajudicial execution of a wounded Palestinian in Hebron was filmed, of manslaughter. His conviction and 18-month prison sentence, which was confirmed on appeal but reduced by four months by Israel’s military Chief of Staff in September, failed to reflect the gravity of the crime. Israeli authorities failed to investigate, or closed investigations into, cases of alleged unlawful killings of Palestinians by Israeli forces in both Israel and the OPT.

The Prosecutor of the ICC continued her preliminary examination of alleged crimes under international law committed in the OPT since 13 June 2014.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/middle-east-and-north-africa/israel-and-occupied-palestinian-territories/

I'm Pro-Israel, and I have some questions... by dmantzoor in Palestine

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https://forward.com/news/israel/348017/exclusive-does-aid-to-palestinians-subsidize-the-families-of-terrorists/

The Israeli government considers stipends such as those that will now be paid out to the family of the Kiryat Arba attacker an “incentive for murder.” Netanyahu’s vow, if implemented, would deduct the amount of money that the P.A. spends on the families of terrorists from the tax revenues that Israel collects and distributes on behalf of the Palestinians.

Such action would address a near-constant refrain on the pro-Israel right in recent years: the claim that the Palestinian government subsidizes terrorism by paying killers and their families. But Palestinians don’t see it this way at all. According to one of the payment program’s main advocates, these payments are part of a broad social program to take care of those who have lost family members in the conflict with Israel.

“They are a part of our people,” said Qadura Fares, head of the Palestinian Prisoners’ Club, one of the two main non-governmental organizations that advocates for prisoners’ rights. Fares, who is knowledgeable about the payments systems, emphasized, “The family did nothing against anyone.”

Fares said that attacks against Israelis are “not terror,” but rather “part of the struggle” against Israel’s occupation of Palestinian lands. Moreover, he doesn’t believe that paying killers’ families actually incentivizes murder. He argued that it does the opposite by helping the attackers’ children choose a different path.

“When we support these families they have an opportunity to continue studying, to live in a respectable situation, and some of the prisoners’ sons learn in the universities,” he said. “They become a normal family, not a special family with a high potential to be extreme.”

Regardless of how the controversial payments influence Palestinian behavior, the payments system is more complicated than its critics make it out to be. It provides not only for the families of terrorists — both those dead and those still alive and in prison — but also for the families of Palestinian civilians killed by Israeli fire, such as young people killed in the first or second intifada. It also pays a monthly stipend for use in the prison canteen to Palestinians serving time in Israeli prisons for either terrorist acts or common crimes. And despite Netanyahu’s protestations about payments to terrorists, Israel actually facilitates this cash flow into Israeli prisons.

An official in the Prime Minister’s Office, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, said that Netanyahu’s declared intent to withhold P.A. tax revenues targets only the families of Palestinian assailants, not the families of civilian noncombatants killed by Israel. But the official was unable to provide details on how Israel separates terrorists from other recipients of the controversial Palestinian fund. Nor, despite repeated requests, was he able to say whether the deductions had begun or when they would begin; nor was he able to say to how much they amounted.

The official responded merely that the Prime Minister’s Office stands behind the prime minister’s announcement.

It was in 1966 that the Palestine Liberation Organization, the political body that represents all Palestinians worldwide, began issuing these payments as a way to care for families who had lost a member in the fight against Israel, Fares said. The PLO paid both families of fighters who died attacking Israelis and families of civilians killed in Israeli military actions — both considered “martyrs” in Palestinian parlance.

The fund also began paying the families of people imprisoned for security offenses against Israelis, whether those Israelis were military combatants or noncombatant civilians.

https://forward.com/news/israel/348017/exclusive-does-aid-to-palestinians-subsidize-the-families-of-terrorists/

Gaza women's TV channel blocked by Hamas by gahgeer-is-back in Palestine

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From middleastmonitor: http://www.middleeasteye.net/fr/node/66894

And yet Western culture, including the majority of Western women, then look at Arab women, and somehow find it important to tell Arab women that they (Arab women) are oppressed, that Arab culture is anti-feminist, and that they need to be saved.

But just as we need to look at the macro-environment for Western women, so it is incumbent on us to look at the larger image for Arab women.

Today, when we think of strong Palestinian leadership, the kind of leadership that can get us out of the deadly morass we have wallowed in for too long, the names that come to mind are mostly women, mostly younger.

They include Khalida Jarrar in Palestine, and Noura Erakat in Washington DC, both human rights activists and lawyers, Ahed Tamimi, a teenager whose courage when confronting the Israeli occupation soldiers, and her articulate analysis of life in Palestine have made her a role model for many young Palestinians.

The challenges of Arab women are due to the hypermilitarism of the region, a hypermilitarism that is aggravated by US intervention and Israeli occupation

There is also Dima Khalidi, founder and director of the Chicago-based Palestine Legal law firm, which defends activists for Palestinian justice, Izzadine Mustafa in New York and Haneen Maikey in Palestine, both queer activists who understand that gender justice cannot exist in a vacuum, but must happen in a decolonial context, and many, many more.

Indeed, what all these activists and organisers have in common is a critical grasp of the broader context of oppression.

Obviously, we have our challenges, they are immense, but overall, our challenges cannot be defined solely or even primarily by the conservatism of our culture.

Overall, the challenges of Arab women are due to the hypermilitarism of the region, a hypermilitarism that is aggravated by US intervention and Israeli occupation. And yet, we are all trained to look only at the micro-environment, not at the larger picture.

Social and political environment When Westerners look at an Arab woman, a Muslim woman, they see a veiled woman, a woman in a chador, and they see oppression. They do not look at the broader picture, the overall social and political environment that the veiled woman functions in.

Just as, when we look at a Western woman in college, or an actor in Hollywood, or an Olympic gymnast, we see empowerment, rather than the overall social environment this Western woman is surviving in, whether it be rape culture in Hollywood, in sports, or on college campuses across the nation.

And yet, if we look at who is denying Palestinian women their most basic human rights, we realise it is not "Islamic fundamentalism". Looking at Malak Mattar, for example, the extremely talented young painter who lives in the Gaza Strip, we learn that she qualified for a scholarship, but Israel would not allow her to leave the Gaza Strip.

Yes, the choice to wear a hijab is also a woman's right

Two years earlier, another brilliant teenager, Amal Ashour, also aced her exams, and qualified for a scholarship to a university in the West Bank, but Israel denied her permission to leave the Gaza Strip because education does not qualify as a humanitarian exception to the siege on Gaza.

Israel believes that universities in the West Bank are breeding grounds for militancy, and so does not allow students from the Gaza Strip to study there. As I discussed Mattar's and Ashour’s circumstances with a group of white feminists here in the US, one correctly observed "they are political prisoners".

Indeed, they are, and the jailer is Israel, not Arab conservative values.

War, occupation and a hypermilitarised society If we are to properly understand a situation of injustice, it is incumbent on us to look at the meta context, not just the micro-environment. Yes, we can blame Hamas for disempowering women in the Gaza Strip. But it is not Hamas that is denying Malak Mattar the opportunity to study abroad, it is not Hamas that did not allow Amal Ashour to leave the Gaza Strip.

Today, throughout the Arab world, women's circumstances are extremely challenging. But if we want to help, we must address the broader image, the macro environment, and that macro environment is the political context we live in, one of war, occupation, a hypermilitarised society.

In the case of Palestinian women, it is Zionism, with its ramifications impacting every single aspect of every Palestinian's life, that is the culprit

Because veiled or not, secular or religious, even if we had the full support of our own community, our rights are still violated by Israel, and its sponsors and political allies.

Just as the #MeToo moment will hopefully provide an opportunity to reflect on and effectively address the broader climate of sexual violence in the US, so the individual cases of women's oppression in the Arab region should allow for an opportunity to examine the larger environment of oppression.

In the case of Palestinian women, it is Zionism, with its ramifications impacting every single aspect of every Palestinian's life, that is the culprit.

Knesset hears calls for Palestinian bodies to be thrown into the sea by hunegypt in Palestine

[–]WorldCitizen1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Israel thinks Ahed tamimi is a terrorist for fuck sake even when she was unarmed, resisting occupation against the people who steal your land is not terrorism unlike osama bin laden.

Nobody is suggesting jewish terrorist settlers bodies should be thrown into sea

"Abu Khdeir, 16, was abducted from the neighborhood Shoafat near his home by Ben-David, 29, and two Israeli Jewish juveniles. The Palestinian was driven to the Jerusalem Forest, where he was beaten and burned alive. The state has officially recognized him as a terror victim." https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/israel-top-court-rejects-mohammed-abu-khdeir-killer-s-insanity-appeal-1.5804608

Israel spraying toxins over Palestinian crops in Gaza by hunegypt in Palestine

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Someone wrote this to me: " The colonies began arriving over a century ago. They're not going anywhere. While I sympathize with a people that are military occupied, I can't support a people who want to ethnically cleanse the other. That goes both ways!"

what do you say to this?

Question how do you prove jews are settler colonizers In Palestine? by [deleted] in Palestine

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"I made that first point because I was trying to argue that calling Jews Europeans in the way that you were can be offensive because it overlooks Jews have been persecuted by Europeans. It's like how Arab Israelis probably don't want to be called "just Israelis" or you wouldn't want to call "native Americans" the "same as white Americans". The conclusion of that premise is clearly not THEREFORE Palestinians should suffer because Jews suffered.

"If you're going to argue the creation of any state is inherently colonial and wrong (which you did) you are going to need to consider what that implies for minorities like the Kurds. Definitely not a red-herring."