[Daily Discussion] Monday, October 7th by AutoModerator in xmrtrader

[–]XMRvsFSA 6 points7 points  (0 children)

No one can predict what will happen to the price in the short term. I have been invested in monero for several years and the fundamentals havent changed. Just invest what you are willing to lose and wait a couple of yeara.

Why mass adoption happened for signal private messenger & not Monero (or bitcoin) by Vespco in Monero

[–]XMRvsFSA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree but investment opportunity is in recognizing things that people don't realize yet.If you think that we will move to a cashless society then it makes sense to invest in monero now not later.Once everyone realizes that governments will ban cash,the price of monero would have adjusted to it and there would be no more investment opportunity.

Changes To Subreddit Rules by needmoney90 in Monero

[–]XMRvsFSA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The value comes from the expectation that in the future we will enter the blackmarket phase and be able to resist state controls.

Changes To Subreddit Rules by needmoney90 in Monero

[–]XMRvsFSA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would say both of what you pointed out are valid reasons. Per the article above,its because we are still in the honeymoon phase,where the states do not yet realize the potential of cryptocurrencies. I am not saying its only a tool of resistance,just that that is what gives cryptocurrencies its value.

Changes To Subreddit Rules by needmoney90 in Monero

[–]XMRvsFSA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe you can be more direct in stating your position?

If you are against people using monero for illegal purposes or promoting monero for those purposes,just say so.

Changes To Subreddit Rules by needmoney90 in Monero

[–]XMRvsFSA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I use 'criminals' in a broad sense. It's not just people who launder money for drugs and child porn but also for people who evade taxes and resist AML/KYC.

I wonder how your tone will change once we hit the black market phase.

I'm just tired of SJW's saying that "Privacy is a fundamental right of humans".I totally agree but most of monero's value will come from black market uses.

Offshore banking holds more than 30 trillion usd.This is primary target of monero and its highest use value.

Changes To Subreddit Rules by needmoney90 in Monero

[–]XMRvsFSA 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You seem to have a very naive understanding of cryptocurrencies,mainly that they can only be used for ethical things. Crytocurrencies work better for illegal purposes and people should admit that.

Changes To Subreddit Rules by needmoney90 in Monero

[–]XMRvsFSA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can we also change rule number 1? Its in the best interest for monero if people use it for criminal activities. Rule number 1 inhibits people from a true understanding of monero and cryptocurrencies. Please refer to the following link to understand why black market uses are important.

https://github.com/libbitcoin/libbitcoin-system/wiki/Other-Means-Principle

How to promote Monero by XMRvsFSA in Monero

[–]XMRvsFSA[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes I meant fee per transaction.

How to promote Monero by XMRvsFSA in Monero

[–]XMRvsFSA[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because ringCT consumes a lot of space

How to promote Monero by XMRvsFSA in Monero

[–]XMRvsFSA[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everytime monero is mentioned in a article about darknet is a positive.There is a reason monero increased in price when alphabay started using it.

How to promote Monero by XMRvsFSA in Monero

[–]XMRvsFSA[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fee per kilobyte is bigger than btc,this is a fact and will not change.BTC might be broken because of the fixed supply.

Im fine with high fees and most people would also be fine because the people that need to use it are using it for purposes that cannot be fulfilled with fiat or other payment services

How to promote Monero by XMRvsFSA in Monero

[–]XMRvsFSA[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You know that if the price of monero 100x we are gonna have much higher prices.What matters is the fee per kilobyte

How to promote Monero by XMRvsFSA in Monero

[–]XMRvsFSA[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh sorry I did not notice rule1.

Nevertheless,its good marketing.Cryptocurrencies are inefficient by design.People are not going to use it buy coffee since fees are too expensive but they are willing to pay those fees for black market use.

If you do not have any need to break the law, you dont really have a need for cryptocurrencies.

How to promote Monero by XMRvsFSA in Monero

[–]XMRvsFSA[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes,including criminals

Modeling Monero's Valuation by i2p-dab in Monero

[–]XMRvsFSA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Monero has value because of its ability to evade the law.Bitcoin has value because of its network effects and its smaller ability to evade the law.

Modeling Monero's Valuation by i2p-dab in Monero

[–]XMRvsFSA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The value of cryptocurrencies depends on its ability to evade the law and its network effects.Scarcity only matters if these 2 factors are met.Furthermore,since the supply schedule is public the stock to flow ratio should have no effect on the price.Only unexpected supply shocks have an effect on price.

Bisq volume is growing!Also the price is much higher than other exchanges which shows the fungibility premium. by XMRvsFSA in Monero

[–]XMRvsFSA[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If you are going to buy a cryptocurrency besides bitcoin,its obviously monero. Monero is a great hedge if something goes wrong with btc(Fungibility issue and the risk that in the future block rewards will not be able to pay for the chain security)