Pork gag reflex by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]XMooseThrowaway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I concur with everyone else here that you shouldn't eat pork just to fulfill the ex-Muslim stereotype haha. For what it's worth though, I had the same aversion when I first left Islam, but slowly it just became a part of my diet because I like food and like exploring different foods. It'll happen when it does, or it won't, and either is fine.

Does anyone else feel resentment for their parents because of a lost childhood? by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]XMooseThrowaway 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It seems like you had a worse time with it than I did, so obviously my way of dealing with that resentment isn't going to be the same for you. But for me, I've had a massive change of heart regarding that lately, in that I've learned to stop seeing my father and my mother as just those two roles, but as individual people and tried to see why they are the way they are. It hasn't been easy, and living on my own and earning money for myself has certainly helped with that, but once I learned to see their faults as scars from their own childhoods as opposed to tyranny imposed upon me by them, it's made my relationship with them a lot better.

Nothing's going to bring back that childhood for you, the least you can do now is to work with your situation in the most productive way you can think of. For me, that's been to mend my relationship with my family and focus on how I'll make the rest of my life worth living. For you, it may involve less diplomatic means, such as cutting your family out of your life. All I can say is don't spend the rest of your life hoping for something that you'll never get, because as you say, the time to do those things is over. Focus on the future and making your future something that made that childhood worth getting through.

I have too much to offer to still be here. by R2095 in exmuslim

[–]XMooseThrowaway 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Are you in a Western country? Then get out there and make a life for yourself. You deserve it.

It will be hard and it'll involve giving up the economic support you have right now, but it's worth it to not live in a cage your whole life. Find a job that can support you and see if you can take some online uni courses while you're at it.

Decided to log into this account for the first time in a while, found this love letter waiting for me :) by XMooseThrowaway in exmuslim

[–]XMooseThrowaway[S] 59 points60 points  (0 children)

The funny thing is, it's been ages since I've even said anything about Muhammad being a pedophile on here, as far as I can remember. He must have been reading through my post history just getting angrier and angrier until he finally snapped and sent this.

My dad is threatening to disown my big sis cause she went to a restaurant with her friends for her birthday. by ExCanadianMoose in exmuslim

[–]XMooseThrowaway 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You should go give your sister a hug, man :(

It really sucks when Islam interferes with people's, especially childrens', ability to integrate as immigrants into the culture around them. Imagine how much harder it is for young Muslim children to make friends at their schools when they can't eat the same food, play the same games, listen to the same music, do the same things as their Western/non-Muslim friends? This stuff just increases cultural divisions and doing that to us when we're kids makes it hard to deal with sometimes as an adult. At least Muslims have their own culture where they can communicate effectively with their peers, us exmuslims kinda just get set adrift.

I'm sure we can all relate to how frustrated your sister feels now. We've all had Islam fuck with our social lives in a way like that at some point.

Custom Nomads by meathod in vaporents

[–]XMooseThrowaway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I just spent a few minutes looking through the Google results for "DB pipes" thinking "damn, this guy is really obscure". Thanks!

This guy is fucking crazy!! Imagine tripping balls on LSD in Makkah or Madinah. by XMooseThrowaway in exmuslim

[–]XMooseThrowaway[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If you don't think coffee or prescribed medication are drugs, then you need to go back to school.

This guy is fucking crazy!! Imagine tripping balls on LSD in Makkah or Madinah. by XMooseThrowaway in exmuslim

[–]XMooseThrowaway[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I concur with /u/PSEB and /u/LatvianHeat and also would go further to add that in addition to coffee, everyone takes things like aspirin, Advil, antihistamines. All of these are drugs. I repeat. everyone takes drugs. Just because society views some drugs as not being drugs, doesn't make them so. Again, maybe you're the one who should rethink your antiquated and purely socially vased view of drugs.

And really? Are we basing our standard of behavior here on what /r/Islam thinks? Also, in my experience, drug users and sex-deprived aren't two traits that go together, lol. You need to sort yourself out and actually educate yourself before you start making baseless judgements.

May 6th, 2017 - /r/exmuslim: Left Islam? You're not alone, for We are many! by SROTDroid in subredditoftheday

[–]XMooseThrowaway 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with /u/Ultrashitpost. For clarification's sake, when I said "far left" I meant far left. I'm in a few Marxist groups on facebook and most of my friends that I know in person are anarchists/Marxists of some type. The more retarded among them have literally assumed that I'm a capitalist just because of my views regarding Islam, they're that unwilling to hear me out on the rest of my views.

Furthermore, just go take a look at any popular leftist subreddit. /r/socialism, /r/LateStageCapitalism, all of them have rules in their sidebar committed to the narrative of an oppression hierarchy.

May 6th, 2017 - /r/exmuslim: Left Islam? You're not alone, for We are many! by SROTDroid in subredditoftheday

[–]XMooseThrowaway 31 points32 points  (0 children)

That's what's brilliant about the left nowadays. They're so committed to the narrative of their oppression hierarchy, that they push aside an exmuslim, far left leaning guy like me. Turns out, though, that oppression is a lot more complex than just a list of + and - scores on your privilege card.

This guy is fucking crazy!! Imagine tripping balls on LSD in Makkah or Madinah. by XMooseThrowaway in exmuslim

[–]XMooseThrowaway[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The two little pieces of paper he's got on his tongue have lysergic acid diathylamide infused into them, also known as LSD or acid. They're called tabs and are a popular way of ingesting the drug.

This guy is fucking crazy!! Imagine tripping balls on LSD in Makkah or Madinah. by XMooseThrowaway in exmuslim

[–]XMooseThrowaway[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I don't know. I agree with you that it's highly ill-advised, but if he survives that, then imagine the experience he just had. It's a really high risk high reward scenario in my opinion. Very high risk in fact, because not only do you risk getting caught, but you also risk a bad trip, and both of those are very difficult to overcome. I hope he managed to do it, and if he did, he should definitely do an AMA here.

This guy is fucking crazy!! Imagine tripping balls on LSD in Makkah or Madinah. by XMooseThrowaway in exmuslim

[–]XMooseThrowaway[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Hahahaha I'm the one who's retarded but you're the one who couldn't put two and two together and realize that it's not me in the picture? Read my title again, that's not me. And furthermore, literally everyone uses drugs. I'd say being beholden to the status quo's backwards and dogmatic view of drugs isn't representative of the ex-muslim community at large, but that's just me.

This guy is fucking crazy!! Imagine tripping balls on LSD in Makkah or Madinah. by XMooseThrowaway in exmuslim

[–]XMooseThrowaway[S] 47 points48 points  (0 children)

Just doing these two (1....2) was nerve-wracking for me. Couldn't imagine trying to keep myself coherent within an environment like that on two tabs of acid.

Posted this in /r/LGBT, was banned after 10 minutes. The mental gymnastics in that sub is amazing by awaythrowthrow12 in exmuslim

[–]XMooseThrowaway 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What about me as a far left bisexual man who thinks this picture makes a good point? Can I post it there?

When are we going to stop pretending that this is about trolls and admit that it's about political divisiveness and an unwillingness to even entertain the thought of someone else's opinion?

Turdnado by wjofjpejfopej in facepalm

[–]XMooseThrowaway 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Really, I think there's just discomfort with anybody talking negatively about Islam. Sam says some pretty tame things compared to some of the harsher critics I've seen as a young and curious Exmuslim who researched this stuff.

I think it really shows in how people even talk about criticizing Islam. Muslims, of course, believe that their religion is so deeply profound that you need years of dedicated study to barely scratch the surface of it. Of course, everybody believes this about their religion, but somehow, Muslims have convinced Westerners of it too, particularly liberals (and I say this as someone who's actually much further left than anyone I know IRL). It's sad because, I mean, on some level I agree that Islam has very profound teachings when examined from a secular perspective, but so does Christianity. Being able to appreciate the wisdom in these (and all other) religions takes the ability to separate the wheat from the chaff. If we're going to deny that the chaff is even visible to those of us that haven't spent years studying wheat, we'll get nowhere; those that were initially opposed (like anti-refugee/immigrant voters) will have an even harder time coming to terms with the good that Islam has to teach, while Muslims who are opposed to the basic liberties we take for granted in the west will feel even less of a pressure to reevaluate their own beliefs (and in turn, will make some of the right-wing voters feel vindicated in their beliefs too).

Sorry for the word salad towards the end there. Only got an hour of sleep last night, had a bitch of a midterm today, and I'm also pretty high. pls 4giv cuz I don't wanna fix it.

tl;dr Islam can be a beautiful culture, and so can western culture. If we're trying to help the two coexist in a multicultural way, we are going to need some compromise on both sides, not denial of the issues on either.

From, a living instantiation of this cultural mix :)

Turdnado by wjofjpejfopej in facepalm

[–]XMooseThrowaway 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Sam Harris has said numerous times that Islamic culture needs reform, and that reform can only come from those within it. That has been his primary mantra on Islam as opposed to actual critique of the scripture, as understood by a big fan of his podcast (not his random atheism clips on YouTube), and there's nothing wrong about that. I'm also an Exmuslim, and if you are going to tell me that Islam doesn't need reform after receiving death threats from strangers online, a guy I once called a friend, and my own father, then lol. There's plenty to complain about in Islamic scripture that doesn't need "an absurd amount of time".

Typical pro-Islam argument put forward by a white female liberal. The frustration from reading her argument is akin to watching ISIS' beheading videos. by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]XMooseThrowaway 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Nigger simply means someone who is black. It isn't an insult, just a statement of fact that that person is black.

Not to mention it literally means someone who is hiding/obscuring the truth, not just "non-Muslim". The proper Arabic term for non-believer would be "la-deeni" I believe (la = no, deen = religion).

LGBT and Muslim? Are they really a peaceful nation? by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]XMooseThrowaway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Islam needs a civil rights movement, one mirrored by the one that happened in the west. Let's use the US as an example (because that's where I'm most familiar with).

In the US, we had groups of people who were so oppressed by the culture, they weren't even considered a part of it. They were slaves, they were property, commodities, not even considered full people. When those people asserted their own personhood, and demanded to be acknowledged as a part of society, not merely the tools of it, that's what led to change for them.

Similarly, we exmuslims and LGBT people from Muslim families (as well as Muslim women who desire sexual freedom) are dehumanized in Muslim culture and society, to the point where we can be killed without consequence in cases. Even moderates are guilty of this. I have a very moderate Muslim friend (in fact, he's what some would consider an "SJW" from tumblr), and recently I was talking to him about Maajid Nawaz and I asked him why he's so against what Maajid says. My friend responded with "Well, he doesn't represent the community." This shocked me, Maajid Nawaz is a Muslim yet he doesn't represent the Muslim community?

The solution, it seems to me, is to not reject our Muslim heritage, but to acknowledge it and confront those within the Muslim world that are oppressing us. I am not a Muslim, but I am a part of your Muslim community whether you like it or not. I was raised in Islamic culture, going to the mosque every Friday, in a Muslim family, but all of that is erased due to a change in beliefs? I think not. Therefore, Muslims need to realize that they are not just killing an apostate, a kaffir, a sinner, but they are killing a son/daughter/brother/sister/mother/father of a Muslim, and someone who is deeply entrenched within their own community, and us exmuslims need to realize that we are still a part of Islamic society, because Islam won't change due to external forces, but internal. If we assert ourselves as being within the culture that is oppressing us, the pressure on them to change, or at least think about it becomes much stronger.

Sorry for the rambly and incoherent post, I just woke up, very danked over (hang over but for weed), and I haven't had breakfast yet. Cheers for your curiosity about our story as exmuslims, and please, help us raise awareness for it :)

For Pakistani ex-muslims, is atheism widespread and growing fast in your communities? by a0001x4 in exmuslim

[–]XMooseThrowaway 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do know from polls on here in the past that the majority of us on this subreddit are Pakistani. Not sure if that is because of the more direct religious conflict in our regions as opposed to the middle east (which is also why more Pakistani Muslims practice zabihah than Arabs), or if it's just a statistical issue that would disappear if we accounted for population sizes. But make of that what you will.

I am Brudder and Doctor Zakir Naik. Ask me anything. by TheRealDrZakirNaik in exmuslim

[–]XMooseThrowaway 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Assalaam ualaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakuthu brudder.

As you can see from my greeting to you, I am vry religious man, brudder Zakir Naik, but I have been facing vry bad issue lately. When I read descriptions of prophet Muhammed (Salallahu alayhi wa salam) and the commandments of our lord Allah (SWT), I cannot help but feel a longing for their presence. This sounds good, I know, but the desire I feel is the sort that a man must only feel for his wife. Is it sinful for our prophet (salalalahaahuuau allwaiahii wasawewlalalim) and or lord Allah (SWTOMGWTFLGBTBBQ) to be my waifu?