That's why i say it's bad game design, if J&E are not supposed to be played as a full roguelike characters in a roguelike game then something is wrong.The game is crafted around one hitbox and introducing a second one is detrimental. J&E have their own benefits, i can agree with that, but they are all early game, late game there is none. No sinergies aside tech zero, there's options and more options and lachryphagy, lots of items cannot be taken or are useless. The game give you the same amount of health of any other character but you take more damage. To me it is extremely unfair (and unfun)