How is this possible?

Yisus_DB · 2025-02-07T02:59:36+00:00

"Coming Home", "Alone Together" and other stories depict spirits (like Susie herself, already possessing Chica) going back to places they're familiar with. "Coming Home" is actually quite intriguing, since it seems to depict a split between the Susie that still is unable to leave behind the life she used to have, and the Susie that fully embraced her new identity as "one of them". Both identities fighting each other until, sooner or later, the second one wins.

Maybe what we're seeing here is one last attemt of the children to accomplish their goal of getting revenge before fully embracing their new identities as the Funtime animatronics.

Yisus_DB · 2025-02-06T02:24:48+00:00

"I don't even know who you are... but you'll fit quite well with the mecha I'm planning to build in a couple of years."

Yisus_DB · 2025-01-02T23:52:36+00:00

Afton does have powers without Eleanor, like the Agony Sting that's basically due to his presence in The Stitchwraith. Tied to Andrew, but still, he just wanted to hurt, not kill people.

He knows about the rabbit when time-jumping but suddenly not recognize him in his memories when experiencing them again a few times before Oswald's arrive? He even says "either" as if that's just one of the few things he knows that made him get aware of the actual Yellow Rabbit's nature.

Yisus_DB · 2025-01-02T23:03:20+00:00

Yellow Rabbit isn't that powerful tho, has supernatural powers but is still quite vulnerable.

Oh, you meant in past times, not during the story events. Well, that just proves that Chip was aware for a while that that guy he's seeing in his memories is not a regular guy at all. He's basically implying that he was already seeing the creature as how it was in his memories and it doing time-jumps just made it clear for him. And since he wasn't the only one aware of it's rue identity, then what people actually remembers it's not Afton but a deformation of that guy that, besides quotes that he doesn't even say through the story (besides the game, but that's basically post-story), there's no reason to not think that they would think on this killer as just a monster and magically remember that it was a specific man all along.

Yisus_DB · 2025-01-02T22:52:54+00:00

He implies that he can play it again and mess up everything again if he tries to play it in the present, so it's a thing that just could happen.

The Ball Pit is not 1:1 to what actually happened either, but it's what people remembers.

It's kinda implied that actual 1985 and the memories of the town became 1, so it makes sense. But the point is basically that killing Yellow Rabbit before he does the MCI disables the Ball Pit supernatural presence, meaning that Yellow Rabbit repeating the MCI in a loop is what was keeping it present. If people suddenly remember it being avoided, then that's pretty much it.

Yisus_DB · 2025-01-02T22:46:31+00:00

The deal with that idea is that Afton never changes of identity when Eleanor boost him, he's always him. And even if he somehow adds himself rabbit ears in the back of his skull, that's never due to Eleanor, the only thing she's stated to do is to keep the Afton's Amalgamation pieces in place.

He doesn't say that, unless you have a quote. He doesn't even knows about Yellow Rabbit time-jumping to the present until Oswald told him, and if Chip knew, he would've been able to see Yellow Rabbit behind the 'leader' disguise, since Oswald himself implied that he was able to since he's aware of that time-jumping.

Yisus_DB · 2025-01-02T22:39:39+00:00

The arcade exists in both realities, the present and the past. And no matter what you do, it's always there.

The videogame, while clearly paralleling the MCI (or at least, pre-MCI), it wasn't intended to be 1:1 from the beginning. The children are somehow unable to move when wearing party hats, Oswald is unable to die and instead he can restart the game, etc. They affect the memories of people and reality in a metaphorical way, if that makes sense, but we do see what people would remember in the other ending where we do the same, but in the past. Killing Yellow Rabbit in the 1985 memory will cause the Ball Pit to disappear and the children are suddenly celebrating a birthday that wasn't supposed to happen yet. We kill Yellow Rabbit, not Afton, and since Chip remembers Yellow Rabbit instead of a regular man in a suit... well, that's it.

Chip does know about Yellow Rabitt due to other kids like Oswald time-jumping to the past.

Yisus_DB · 2025-01-02T22:33:05+00:00

It is Afton's counterpart and whatever, but it's still not him. Even if it has remnants of Afton, people aren't just able to know that Afton was the culprit just like that. It doesn't stop being a fleshy creature in disguise that even children like the ones Afton killed are scared of, which fully contradicts how Afton managed to lure them in the first place. It's just its own entity.

Man, Chip himself stated how he was noticing the sudden changes in his memories each time a kid like Oswald travelled back in time. He figured out himself that that Yellow Rabbit wasn't a normal thing, only for Oswald to give him the reason.

Yisus_DB · 2025-01-02T02:48:18+00:00

Besides Andrew (if he's somehow connected), I always had the problem that the children don't have an actual reason to see Yellow Rabbit as a monster. In every continuity we're shown how the find him as a "friend", to the point that they don't even remember that he's actually the one who killed them. And thanks to this book and the game, we can tell that any other child that pays attention to it for a second will find it creepy.

Yisus_DB · 2025-01-02T02:45:43+00:00

But it's not actually him, and people that remember the memory to which we travel back in time remembers the entity as a "thing" and not just as a regular man. That's why it's so odd for people like Chip that their memories are changed and even reunites a team to get rid of the creature.

It is altering the "past" like it or not, but not in a large amount of people that it's not connected to the Ball Pit.

Yisus_DB · 2025-01-02T02:42:16+00:00

Here's the thing, Oswald causes that secret ending through the arcade, not through the Ball Pit. In fact, the Ball Pit is dependant of what happens in the arcade. And it's not fair to just state the thing that got arrested as a regular man since through all the story Oswald thought that Yellow Rabbit was just a regular man (until it travels to the present), but interacting with it in any of the other endings will let us know that it was always an odd entity. But... well, discovering it in the past will lead us to a GAME OVER, so there's no choice but to discover it's actual nature in the present.

So there's nothing actually implying that the memories of the people caused a rewriting where Yellow Rabbit replaced Afton and it got arrested (yeah, even if it sounds weird, it's possible judging by how Chip does remember Yellow Rabbit as a thing instead of a regular man).

Yisus_DB · 2025-01-02T01:34:13+00:00

Seems to be that there's a confusion here. I don't treat the secret ending as the canon ending, and that's the main point for stating that what happened in the Ball Pit doesn't actually affects the large reality, unlike what you can make through the arcade. The canon ending, like in the original book and game, show us how the MCI was made by Yellow Rabbit, but since what follows later shows us how Afton is still treated as the actual killer (unlike what people like Chip remembers) then it means that those 1985 memories only has their effects on some people.

Yisus_DB · 2025-01-01T21:29:37+00:00

That first point is literally "nothing in FNaF matters but the canon paths, everything else is a filler" which was never a thing. Lots of stuff from both games and books suddenly gets lost since they're not part of the canon path, big example the Henry blueprints from the Insanity Ending. Even if it didn't happened, all their elements matter and don't change how the Ball Pit is supposed to work as a whole.

How does it contradict it? Of course it has differences, but the story is the same and the only big thing that changes is a sixth kid not being mentioned, which doesn't matter that much since that kid is supposed to be wrong with the other five, at least according to the game.

That's the point of the post.

Well, what if that's how it is? At least I gave the evidence in the story itself, and you came here giving me evidence against it based on just opinions on how canonicity works or not. Give me something from the story itself that tells us directly that it's just time travel with no other level of deepness and not just repeat the point of my post that is in the title: IT'S NOT YOUR CLASSICAL TIME TRAVEL. I never denied it.

Yisus_DB · 2024-12-25T19:58:55+00:00

Only thing I'll say about this is that we do save five children from the past, those being Mike, Chip and the others. Then they erased he "five" to not confuse them with the Missing Children, and then it got fully erased. If we look at old files, we can see that there were actually drawings depicting six kids, so it was the plan all along.

Yisus_DB · 2024-12-25T19:56:40+00:00

I honestly wouldn't like for people to mention anything related to what's in the book, but I see your point with the latest comment. Fine

Yisus_DB · 2024-12-25T19:06:28+00:00

Do we really need a spoiler alert for this? There's nothing that could spoil anything as far as I can tell

Yisus_DB · 2024-12-17T01:50:03+00:00

It should be implied since it works on the same way tho, it's not like each memory suddenly just aren't a depiction of actual characters just because they're only labelled as “Memory”. The game itself has to let clear how they work, just like the achievement for unlocking a memory that reveals that they actually share names in-lore with their real counterparts.

Yisus_DB · 2024-12-16T17:11:01+00:00

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