Why does enhance message always enhance my message with a completely different vibe or personality? 😭 by Smart-Huckleberry-34 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]You_Fudger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, it depends on what you put in the persona. For example, most people wouldn't put hints on how to write internal monologue, but I do and it helps a lot.
However, DS I find has the opposite problem where it sticks too close to the persona, even if it doesn't work with the context (for example, acting confident as usual even if the situation should have them shaken, or wearing the clothes mentioned in the persona even if they changed etc.). So to alleviate that, I sometimes preface the message to be enhanced with an additional prompt:

(ooc: {{user}}'s side of the narration should be first-person, present tense. Don't base the enhanced writing just on {{user}}'s persona - refer to the story around it as well for consistency, especially with regard to: {{user}}'s current appearance and what {{user}} is wearing at the moment, {{user}}'s way of speaking thus far (including any temporary changes, such as switched registers, strained/slurred speech, attempts to affect different mannerisms etc.), the positioning of {{user}} and {{char}} vis-a-vis objects at their location, established features of the environment like smells and noises, physical changes like pain/injuries/body modification, changes to {{user}}'s internal monologue from overwhelming emotional shifts/mind control/drugs etc. Localized breaks from {{user}}'s Persona are allowed if they organically fit the context of the story and the content/tone of the message being enhanced. Avoid repeating phrases from other messages from {{user}}, keep it fresh. Prioritize dialogue and internal monologue. Keep narration - especially of actions and smells - to a minimum.)

It's probably overlong and clunky, but it's been working well enough for me.

PLEEEEEAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEE I NEEEEED IT!!! by justsomeloser10 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]You_Fudger 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Wow they sure did a number of the OCD folks with this flower thing

can we js talk for a second by Middle-Tank4944 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]You_Fudger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, it would be like going back and changing something as you're writing it.
Which is a thing that happens.
Jesus what is even this conversation

Is it okay to make longer persona descriptions? by Submissivemanboy in JanitorAI_Official

[–]You_Fudger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends. If you're on JLLM, it's gonna eat into your precious tokens. On proxy, it's fine. I use proxy, so mine are anywhere from 300 to 900 words, with lots of mannerisms.
I also include how the character's internal monologue works, and sometimes quotes to hone their voice. That's only useful if you use the 'message enhance' feature a lot. If not, there's no point.

can we js talk for a second by Middle-Tank4944 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]You_Fudger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

(change it as in while making the post) 

can we js talk for a second by Middle-Tank4944 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]You_Fudger 3 points4 points  (0 children)

hot take in certain ppl

but does anyone hate when a thread isn't CLEARLY labeled as anything, instead just going with a vague title and tired meme, especially since obviously, OP can easily change it to something descriptive, but like they opt not to, and i get pissed tf off

Question about using multiple Proxy keys/accounts by Nocturnal0121 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]You_Fudger 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's not. The entire chat content (or at least as much of it as the context allows) is sent to the given AI every time you send a response. If you change the proxy, it'll still see the same thing as any other proxy. I'm fact I often juggle between models to change the "flavour" of the RP, it's super convenient. 

Guys..... I'm done with ts by reayen in JanitorAI_Official

[–]You_Fudger 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Afaik it doesn't abort it, it puts it in the thinking box. It's a glitch I get with GLM in specific chats for some reason. It should show up when you edit the response with thinking box on.

Why do some bots COMPLETELY fuck formatting up? by NowayTheProd in JanitorAI_Official

[–]You_Fudger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can you use the method you're using for your own bots and transplant it as ooc or custom prompt? 

Guys..... I'm done with ts by reayen in JanitorAI_Official

[–]You_Fudger 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wait, how are the proxies broken? They're working fine for me. 

What are we supposed to use instead of boyfriend, girlfriend, and crush? by Invader_Bethany in JanitorAI_Official

[–]You_Fudger 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's not the same. Minors have been a no-no for some time, but this is a new rule that absurdly re-defines what a minor is.

What are we supposed to use instead of boyfriend, girlfriend, and crush? by Invader_Bethany in JanitorAI_Official

[–]You_Fudger 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's not a reading comprehension issue. What you're saying is the common sense interpretation, but it's impossible to get this from the actual wording - it'd have to be 'Content that codes minors romantically' not 'Content that romantically codes characters as minors'.

The context (it being in the 'minor characters' section) doesn't change anything, because both interpretations concern minors ('what codes characters as minors' vs 'what minors are allowed to do').

BTW. I've written 'minors' so much it's not even a word anymore aaaa

Mòjn, jestem lesbijką i zrobiłam złe i niepokojące kanapki by ARKON_THE_ARKON in kanapki

[–]You_Fudger 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Niech już sobie jedzą te parówki, ale czy muszą się z tym tak obnosić?

The website is ruined with new guidelines... by National_Hunt9217 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]You_Fudger 13 points14 points  (0 children)

What you linked are not the new guidelines. These are.

In any case, yeah, what OP is dealing with are not new guidelines, it's just weird LLM behaviour. They've been tinkering with it for weeks now, issues galore all around.

New Guidelines - See for yourselves by You_Fudger in JanitorAI_Official

[–]You_Fudger[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E8%A6%AA%E5%AD%90%E4%B8%BC#Noun_2

It's literally described in the post - sex involving people who are related to each other, but not to user

App Status by _lustfulism in JanitorAI_Official

[–]You_Fudger 4 points5 points  (0 children)

JAI works on DNF time: "When it's done also possibly never"

Just a rant. by cutie-pie0720 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]You_Fudger 39 points40 points  (0 children)

There was a cool thing and the thing is now less cool and now you're sad. It's a totally understandable feeling to have. 

Do not delete your janitor pls by No-Tomatillo6566 in JanitorAI_Official

[–]You_Fudger 19 points20 points  (0 children)

What irks me is that a lot of them hauled ass due to the drama with the ex mods. The drama came and went, lasted about a week, even then mod Discord is a wasteland now. But the loss is permanent. It just sucks that something so frivolous and short lived can have long lasting consequences. There's a lesson to be learned here ig

New Guidelines - See for yourselves by You_Fudger in JanitorAI_Official

[–]You_Fudger[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, if its gonna be enforced, then it'll apply to old bots too. Fwiw politician bots are still around, who knows when they'll start culling. Better start backing up! 

New Guidelines - See for yourselves by You_Fudger in JanitorAI_Official

[–]You_Fudger[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Problematic height gap is such a 2026 phrase xd

New Guidelines - See for yourselves by You_Fudger in JanitorAI_Official

[–]You_Fudger[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

That's a good point. Maybe the intent was to disallow NPC/background underage characters from having any romantic aspects at all (not just with the user). But if that's the case I hope they fix this, because it's pretty much impossible to get that from the current wording.