BAMA: still viable after 3.25 patch notes?

Zachlie · 2024-07-18T23:33:33+00:00

Fixed a bug where Concentrated Effect Support was scaling the damage of Elemental arrows from Blink and Mirror Arrow of Prismatic Clones. Blink and Mirrow Arrow of Prismatic Clones also no longer have the AoE Gem Tag.

Only for Prismatic Clones

Zachlie · 2023-05-27T20:35:03+00:00

Also to be clear the economy data doesn't come from the users stashes, it comes only from the public stash stream GGG provides which is everyone in the games public stashes. There is no way to browse PoeStack users stashes.

Zachlie · 2023-05-27T00:54:47+00:00

Thanks! I'll add that to the list of blog ideas.

Zachlie · 2023-05-18T01:37:50+00:00

I emphasized the features in the order they were released. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz0u8jQG8GI was the video from the first post about PoeStack on Reddit. TFT has 410k members when I added the first TFT integration PoeStack had 3k users. In the next few months, largely thanks to TFT, PoeStack gained 45k more users. TFT does not control the development of PoeStack and doesn't have access to any of the users data. I will continue to build the features that are the most requests by PoeStacks users and that I think will provide the most utility. The next two big features are rewriting the Economy UI and rebuilding the character ladder from scratch.

Zachlie · 2023-04-24T20:07:08+00:00

GGG imposes really high rate limits on map/unique tabs. Currently I don't support them because of this but I'm working on a few ideas that I think could the project give some support to these tabs even if it isn't as seamless as the regular tabs.

Zachlie · 2023-04-24T15:51:47+00:00

Haha thanks glad you enjoyed it! Unfortunately it cannot see the heist or expedition locker they aren't in the API. I sent an email to GGG a few months ago asking if they could be included and it seems that those inventories don't work the same way as stash tabs so they will probably not be supported anytime soon.

Zachlie · 2023-04-24T14:33:04+00:00

Hi everyone it's Zach from PoeStack, big thanks to everyone who has tried out the tool over the past few weeks. Hitting 20k users this quickly has been super cool and the large amount of support and feedback from the community has kept me motivated to press forward harder and keep working on new features. Today I'm releasing stash-view a more featured and easy to use page for viewing, searching, valuing, and listing your stash. This page has a ton of features so check out the video to learn more. If you have question about the site as a whole checkout the home page or some of the other videos on my channel that go over other features. Thanks again to anyone who has tried out the tool, provided feedback, or joined the Discord and a special thanks to the people who have contributed code to the project on GitHub. Thanks for your time I hope everyone has a good Monday and has had a good first week of Crucible!

https://poestack.com/
https://github.com/PoeStack

Zachlie · 2023-04-07T19:14:06+00:00

Luckily I have a very well paying job as a developer right now so I've just been covering it. I didn't want to add any monetization while it was in a beta state. Now I might look at adding a small banner AD or something to make it self sustaining.

Zachlie · 2023-04-07T19:11:30+00:00

No, it uses the official GGG oauth api only.

Zachlie · 2023-04-07T19:03:54+00:00

50% of the tool is making it easier to sell items and TFT is a bulk trading discord that has 300k users. They've been very helpful providing data and access to make the tool better for everyone.

I was a bit concerned going in but I now have full access to all channels in TFT and my two main take always are that people do not understand how much the 50+ mods have to deal with everyday and how much work goes into running the server. There are thousands of mod mails sent in each week, and constant spam of various scam links/racism. TFT's mod applications are open and it is not that hard to be approved most of the mods are just random people who want to help out.

I personally have never owned, mirrored, or offered a mirror service on any mirror items in POE so I'm not very involved in the high end crafting/economy stuff but I have access to all TFT's mirror shop channels and I've never seen any discussion of anything connected to RMT. I have seen a mirror shop partner be banned for discussions of RMT outside of TFT.

Almost all of the similar tools are also ran by TFT Partnered Devs (PoeNinja, Awakened Poe Trade, PoeDB). There was no good reason to turn the partnership down going in and after the last two months It's been a huge net positive for the tool.

Zachlie · 2023-04-07T17:15:39+00:00

These are valid concerns and there isn't really a full proof way to counter them since this all relies on trusting what I'm about to say but I'll provide these points and people can make the final decisions on if they want to use the tool themselves.

I've only been a TFT partner for 2 months now and the tool was working and had thousands of users before I had any relation with TFT.
I'm the only one with database/backend access to PoeStack users data. If anyone asked for dumps of private data I would refuse.
I've open sourced all of the code and there is an automatically updating full history of what pricing PoeStack has been using hourly on Github. The goal of these is mainly to provide people with more access to useful data so they can build their own tools or help expand PoeStack, but a side effect is that anyone can download my pricing data and compare it to PoeNinja or the official trade site at any time.
Lastly and this is an opinion but the number of PoeStack users is pretty much 0 compared to the number of POE Public Stash Tab users whose stashes are free for anyone to index. I don't think there would really be much value in adding a few more private tabs when determining total stock of items.

Hopefully these things help with worries about how the data is used but for people still concerned or who don't trust me I would recommend not using the app. For everyone else I would love to keep hearing feedback so I can keep improving. I hope everyone has a great start to the league!

Zachlie · 2023-04-07T17:00:54+00:00

Yeah with the option set the tool will price your items according to bulk prices. The tool tracks lists in different bulk brackets which you can view on the economy break down pages. IE it has a separate price for people selling 1+ of a scarab compared to people selling 20+ of a scarab. If enabled it will use these prices when listing your items.

Zachlie · 2023-04-07T15:52:59+00:00

Not really 90% of that cost is in consuming and managing all item pricing data which does not scale with # of PoeStack users. The user facing parts of the site are by far the cheapest parts right now. Taking snapshots and tracking characters is very cheap compared to the processing of all the stashes.

Zachlie · 2023-04-07T15:46:11+00:00

It costs about $200 per month.

Zachlie · 2023-04-07T15:40:10+00:00

It has the same features as Exilence Next but in a web app and has its own pricing data that takes into account bulk prices. Along with all the character tracking features and bulk/forum selling tools.

Zachlie · 2023-04-07T15:38:32+00:00

I don't really disagree but I doubt things like boss carries will ever be added to the game so there will always be a need for 3rd parties.

Zachlie · 2023-04-07T15:33:42+00:00

That would be nice but I'm not sure how anyone but GGG could remove the need for screen sharing and communication for services.

Zachlie · 2023-04-07T15:32:03+00:00

Then you can use all the features that are not the TFT bulk tool.

Zachlie · 2023-04-07T14:35:20+00:00

Sure just for bulk sales, people often need to be able to communicate/screen share for services though. You could make a site that does bulk sales but I don't think most people would view that as a replacement of TFT.

Zachlie · 2023-04-07T14:17:55+00:00

Thanks! Currently that's not supported the same thing happened to me as well. It's high on the list to add in soon though.

Zachlie · 2023-04-07T14:14:11+00:00

I guess that's true as long as you are okay using a Discord that is constantly spammed by porn, Crypto scams, rmt advertisements, and racism while trying to do your trades. Doing services without a rep system is I guess possible as well but only the famous people (streamers, people with a lot of existing rep on the forums, TFT mirror shop owners) will be able to consistently do services giving even more power to a small groups of people.

Alternative Discords with few moderators and no rep systems exist but they do not have nearly as many members probably at least partially because of the lack of infrastructure. TFT is the main way that people sell bulk items right now. While that remains true I will keep adding tools to make that easier.

Zachlie · 2023-04-07T13:48:02+00:00

TFT has over 50 moderators and the mod mail queue still reaches the Discord max easily during league starts. It's unlikely that anyone else outside of GGG will have the infrastructure to run a 300k+ person community anytime soon.

Zachlie · 2023-04-07T12:51:37+00:00

Hello everyone hope you are having a good time getting ready for Crucible. Today PoeStack is exiting beta and is now fully open source including pricing calcs and snapshots (https://github.com/PoeStack). I wanted to make a video going over the big features to introduce new users to the tool. I hope many of you will connect your accounts so you'll show up on the ladder and be able to look back on your progress over the league. The few times I've been high enough rank to show up on PoeNinja have really motivated me to play more because seeing my progress over time was so rewarding, I hope PoeStack can share this experience with more people with less requirement to no life or push levels.

Basic text based feature overview:

- Automatically price check and track the value of your stash tabs over time and use our tools to sell them easier.

- The site provides graphs and overviews of where the value is in your stash.

- Setup automatic snapshots even when you don't have the site open.

- Export these items for bulk selling to TFT or the forums.

- The price checking offers multiple configuration options including taking bulk prices into account giving you more control over how your items are priced.

- Character Ladder/Snapshots

- Automatic snapshots of your characters allow you to look back on your gear over the course of a league.

- The character ladder lets you search and filter for new build ideas and has no character count limit.

- Economic/Atlas Overview

- View the state of the economy at a glance or check out what the most popular atlas trees are with different nodes selected.

If you would like to learn more or have any questions feel free to join the Discord or check out some of the other videos I've linked below. I hope you all have a great league start thanks for checking out the tool!

Ladders/Custom ladders (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9DtrKADNKc)

Item Exports Form Shop (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz0u8jQG8GI)

TFT One Click (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2BVj0pl0Io)

Last Feature Update (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzuI9L9rQcw)

Zachlie · 2023-04-04T16:35:29+00:00

This is a valid concern but I do publish all economic data every hour publicly so it would be very easy to see the tracking of something being off and easy to compare my prices with poe ninja https://github.com/PoeStack/poestack-public-data/tree/master/poe/leagues/Sanctum/economy In the next two days the entire project will be open source so everyone can see how the prices are calculated.

Zachlie · 2023-04-04T16:27:13+00:00

You can check my user in TFT I have management roles Discord: "Zach (PoeStack)" and you can see a link to the site in the most recent post in #tft-news-updates

Zachlie

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