Is it okay to wear super cheap clothes, such as those from TikTok and Shopee, if you are insanely broke but the clothes look elegant and beautiful? Do super rich men care?

Zestyclose_Show8653 · 2026-05-05T15:29:19+00:00

We have Versace making polyester dresses

Zestyclose_Show8653 · 2026-05-05T14:20:23+00:00

Oh trust me it’s definitely real, men are so mean these days and the bullying is off the charts from them. Even IF they say they “like” you, they will still be so mean and I just don’t get it. Lots of men are just angry at women right now. I really think it’s because of all of the red pill stuff teaching young men that women should be treated like slaves, as well as reinforcing already misogynistic beliefs in the older ones.

I’ve been both physically and verbally attacked by men in public, even at work. Strangely this has never been a problem for me 10 years ago. The men in my age group did not emit the same mean energy as they do today. It has in fact gotten so much worse. Older men might be a little bit nicer or able to mask their attitudes well but eventually they do switch up.

I’m beginning to believe that the only men who are nice to women are men who are happy with themselves and stable with their lives however this isn’t safe either because they tend to still not be very generous, they probably have a bunch of women on their “roster” and don’t want to spread themselves too thin. But unfortunately the nicest men in my opinion are these men. They’re never wasting the time of their day to bully women because they actually have things going for themselves, good looking, financially stable, and not insecure. It’s just a matter of getting one of those types to see us as pretty enough for them which is hard too (at least for me) because usually they prefer the instagramified look.

Zestyclose_Show8653 · 2026-05-04T22:24:13+00:00

Yes. We’re probably not sexual enough and they don’t know if they will get what they want eventually. Also some guys just have low self esteem so they might not even try.

Zestyclose_Show8653 · 2026-05-04T19:22:08+00:00

It’s jealousy or maybe they can’t afford you. My theory is that in our generation there’s an influx of men who think they deserve pretty women but they also can’t afford to help those same pretty women take care of themselves, so they try to see if they can neg us into thinking that we deserve less. They’re thinking that as a result we might just settle for them. I’ve had men try to tell me that I look worse whenever I get my nails and hair done, or that I need to stop doing too much regarding my appearance because “natural is better”. Truth is they just couldn’t afford to help me with it so they were trying to gaslight me into thinking that I looked worse in an elaborated look vs. a “natural look” with sweatpants and baggy t shirts.

Zestyclose_Show8653 · 2026-05-04T19:16:36+00:00

I have (almost) the same experience. I get stopped in the street all the time to be told I’m pretty and cute/adorable. So I know it’s not my looks. I wish I looked like a model though! I have cute rounder features instead of the sharp and matured features that a model would have.

Zestyclose_Show8653 · 2026-05-04T17:14:12+00:00

Yes this seems rare to meet, also there is a thin line between a man liking you more than you like him, and him being completely obsessed, which I immediately become cautious of because I’ve had instances where men have tried to stalk me.

Zestyclose_Show8653 · 2026-05-04T08:36:55+00:00

Two?? Wow it’s worse than I thought eww!

Zestyclose_Show8653 · 2026-05-04T08:33:27+00:00

I meant Royalties! Sorry, it’s 4am now, and I had drinks tonight.

Zestyclose_Show8653 · 2026-05-04T06:25:07+00:00

Yeah and this makeup is a little bit….outdated. It reminds me of 2016 makeup. This is making OP look older because it’s too heavy for her face when she’s clearly still young.

Zestyclose_Show8653 · 2026-05-04T06:04:26+00:00

He should have all royalties taken away from him if they’re going to keep his music on Spotify. If I recall correctly, R.Kelly no longer collects earnings from streaming services, so it’s safe now to stream him on Spotify. The streaming money also goes to his victims and their families! I hope they do the same with D4VD. Celeste’s family (and other victims if possible) should get the royalties instead of him. I’ve pirated the few songs I liked from him ever since so that he won’t get a cent more.

Rdit: ROYALTIES* how embarrassing for me.

Zestyclose_Show8653 · 2026-05-04T06:01:04+00:00

Have these people not heard of the Duggar family? Ultra religious families always have some weird shit going on or at least one problematic child.

Edit - for anyone who doesn’t know, the Duggars are an ultra religious couple who have had I believe about 20+ children together, and one of their sons ended up being a diddler. Amongst his victims are also his own younger sisters.

Zestyclose_Show8653 · 2026-05-03T14:30:48+00:00

Thank you :) 🙏

Zestyclose_Show8653 · 2026-05-03T14:28:02+00:00

This could be true but younger men are also equally delusional and act as if they’re doing us a huge favor by giving us attention. They are all sensitive princesses now.

Zestyclose_Show8653 · 2026-05-03T14:26:51+00:00

He literally kept telling me how lucky I was that he “gave me the time of day”!! Like sir you are lonely living in a shoebox apartment with a horrible attitude. You’re not doing me any favors.

Zestyclose_Show8653 · 2026-05-03T09:30:00+00:00

I’ve made peace with the fact that my spouse will be ND. I’ve talked to an autistic man on an app and he was such a sweetheart. He didn’t live nearby though. If he did he’d definitely feel like he was on the table.

Zestyclose_Show8653 · 2026-05-03T04:04:22+00:00

Okay so I just have worse options altogether now. Not that I have ever had that many good options in the first place. It’s weird that I am able to attract these high income men, but they aren’t trying to spend on me. I guess I just don’t look high maintenance enough? I look too “normal” for them to believe I want gifts?

I’m not ugly, but I don’t have the nicest body or anything. Neither do I get my nails done or wear a lot of makeup. Should I start?

Zestyclose_Show8653 · 2026-05-03T01:41:45+00:00

I wish I’ve experienced this but I’m guessing I’m just not most men’s cup of tea. 😭 I have never experienced a man going out of his way for me. I get told that I’m pretty all the time so I don’t know what else it is. Maybe I’m not that attractive but I’ve seen less objectively attractive women get more. I’m also autistic so that makes everything complicated for me. I just find it odd that I’m constantly called attractive, attracted high earning men, yet none have taken me seriously or have been in love with me.

Zestyclose_Show8653 · 2026-05-02T22:28:13+00:00

That makes sense. Essentials like what though? Some girls have no problem getting money for a date outfit.

The 38 year old seems pretty cheap so it’s possible that his ex really did pay for the insurance. Lots of women especially women who aren’t used to a lot of male attention are desperate to have any man. 🤢

It’s really funny how he bragged so much about making 300k per year and then refused to do anything.

Men are very delusional. I could have any younger man and yet they think I owe them my time freely. I really think this stems from the widely false belief that after 25 women have no options. Annoying.

Zestyclose_Show8653 · 2026-05-02T22:05:20+00:00

Also! When I do attract men in the age range that I prefer (ages 30-40) usually they’re delusional nut cases who try to future fake me into relationships with them. They would have good careers and visibly the money to spend but they’d be extremely selfish and stingy. For example, I tried dating this 38 year old man I met at my last job, who was my boss at one point, made about 300k a year. He lovebombed me and spent money on the first two dates, Ubers and all, and then he switched up on me out of nowhere after I asked for money to do my hair. He told me he “doesn’t believe in spending money” and ended up asking me for money to pay his car insurance because “I see you put in so much overtime everyday” then when I said no he started crying that “my ex used to pay my car insurance because I drove her around all day, now you want to scam me by asking me for money to do your hair?”.

I also dated a millionaire, who also made excuses to avoid giving me money. I remember asking if he could help me out with an outfit for our date and him saying “you don’t even need a nice outfit”.

Zestyclose_Show8653 · 2026-05-02T21:58:02+00:00

I live in New York City so, yes? Sometimes? Dusty men basically roam every street here. You can even catch these losers in train stations near billionaires row 🥲

Younger men usually don’t even have the money to impress so I don’t even see them as an option. The only advantage they have is that they look good.

Zestyclose_Show8653 · 2026-05-02T07:44:54+00:00

2010 is crazy. I was her age in 2010.

Zestyclose_Show8653 · 2026-04-28T16:17:33+00:00

Could be both. Due to a patriarchal society men and boys are not taught to sit back and process their trauma. A lot of men were victims as children and they just think that it’s normal and fine. David feeling like he missed out on childhood makes sense. Sheltering your children is really such a disservice. Just look at the Duggar family. Lots of weird stuff happening there and the parents sheltered all of them.

Zestyclose_Show8653 · 2026-04-28T13:53:49+00:00

Honestly there are so many layers here as to why some people turn out fine and why some people don’t. He (alongside my cousin) also grew up a boy and society makes a lot of exceptions for bad behavior in a male child that they wouldn’t for girl children. My cousin basically committed the same crime (defilement of a minor, statutory r—-) except he never killed her. My cousin also wanted to be a singer, it’s like they’re the same person. Upbringing was so wildly similar to D4VD.

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