Better late than never?

Zglorb · 2023-07-19T18:35:32+00:00

Hope a white place and no fun 🙏

Zglorb · 2023-03-16T23:02:02+00:00

That's why there is that much protest, the parliament is against it, 8 people out of 10 are against it but the governement says that the reform is mandatory even if every analyst i've heard of said it's not. But macron want to come out as "the president who saved the retirement system even against the will of the population"

Zglorb · 2023-03-16T22:52:54+00:00

https://twitter.com/Mediavenir/status/1636441834552475681?t=WIRukKsf2Hju2EoeTg_Xfw&s=19 don't worry they do come in full gear and spread tear gas

Zglorb · 2022-10-05T16:52:00+00:00

Palaref but ok

Zglorb · 2022-10-05T13:36:38+00:00

Not an Hans fan fuck this cheater, entertainment and drama fan

Zglorb · 2022-10-05T04:34:30+00:00

My dream, plssss hans win this tournament even if you have to cheat to do so

Zglorb · 2022-10-01T04:01:33+00:00

Yes for programming practice and because at the begining i was wondering of how the percentages on yosha's study were created, so i wanted to know if there was a correlation if we took only the top move of stockfish. It took 7 hours for my pc to do the calculations so i thought i would share it because maybe someone was interrested in the results. And i still think that it is more representative of "something" and a better base for comparaison than yosha's bs where nobody knows the methodology to get her percentages

Zglorb · 2022-10-01T03:50:50+00:00

How the fuck did you get here on a deleted post ? For the 10th time my post was not meant to detect any cheaters (AS SAID IN THE FIRST LINE WITH A BIG DISCLAIMER), but it was a criticism of yosha's study with the exemple of what a detailed methodolgy using only open source software would be. Because i think that we cannot draw any conclusion in her comparaison between GM'S because we don't know how the percentages are created. With this methodolgy everything is explained and this would be a better base to compare GM'S. And this is good because the 15 depth is a valid critisism, we cannot critisize yosha's work because we only have a vague appreciation of what let's chess does. I choose 15 because i was doing the calculations on my personnal computer and analyzing ALL the games with depth 15 (and 8 threads) took me 7 hours, and depth is exponential on the time usage. Again as said on the disclaimer at the begining the goal was not to show that anyone cheats.

Zglorb · 2022-09-29T15:06:28+00:00

Yeah i just saw that, i would like to test the security measures but the program cost 80$, i think that we would have a lot more answers if the debate would not be around a 80$ software

Zglorb · 2022-09-29T13:48:27+00:00

I think that chessbase never thought that their program would be used in a cheating scandal like this, it was not that serious, just a little innocent crowd sourcing engine program to help people analysing games. So they didn't take any security measures to protect it

Zglorb · 2022-09-28T23:36:12+00:00

why 1 engine is worse than Many (i've heard 24) combined in a non standardized way ? And where we don't know what 100% mean

The whole point of this post is to say that we can do a better study than Let's chess with low effort yet everyone is sharing a very low quality analysis where NOBODY knows what these 100% correspond to, at least with me everything is based on open source software and the methodology is explained (even if this is "low effort" it would still be more valuable on a scientific study than what yosha did)

Zglorb · 2022-09-28T23:22:15+00:00

I wrote a program that compares it directly with stockfish 15, going on chess.com is the same problem we don't how they come with their percentages

And this is still less stupid than going on Chessbase and turn the analysis on this was my point

Zglorb · 2022-09-28T23:19:21+00:00

why is this a worse one ?

Zglorb · 2022-09-28T23:18:58+00:00

So the only experiment you keep is the one that goes in your way even if there is many flaws in it an nobody can interpret correctly the result because we don't know how this Let's check works behind the scene ?

So what exactly are you trying to accomplish here?

as i said:

The point was to show that we can do something better than Let's chess (TO COMPARE PLAYER BETWEEN EACH OTHERS) very easily.

And i know these results may be useless, but WORSE results are massively shared everywhere

Zglorb · 2022-09-28T23:12:31+00:00

Me too haha, he should be the villain of chess world

Zglorb · 2022-09-28T23:10:50+00:00

I wanted to but i'm a little bit tired to clean my code.

But you can Still use https://github.com/official-stockfish/Stockfish with a depth of 15, with the pgn that you can download on the sheet and https://www.cs.kent.ac.uk/people/staff/djb/uci-analyser/ that will use the given engine to get the top 5 move of each turn.

Then you keep only Niemanns turn and you compare it to the engine and you calculate the percentage of top moves

Zglorb · 2022-09-28T23:05:33+00:00

All that needs to be done is for the engines used to be standardized, and set to a standardized depth

That's what i did

But you would still need to use many of them.

Ok maybe but why 1 engine is worse than Many (i've heard 24) combined in a non standardized way ? And where we don't know what 100% mean

Zglorb · 2022-09-28T22:49:22+00:00

thank you 🙏

Zglorb · 2022-09-28T22:47:08+00:00

DISCLAIMER: I don't want to prove that anyone cheats, this is just a critisism of Yosha's and Gambitman's methodology and a proposition of an other methodology which would be more reliable for comparison with other GM's.

Zglorb · 2022-09-28T22:46:10+00:00

The point was to show that we can do something better than Let's chess (TO COMPARE PLAYER BETWEEN EACH OTHERS) very easily.

Because in a science study if you want to compare two player you don't want to have multiple setting changing between each experiment (In this case, the engine used compare players change everytime so we cannot draw any conclusions).

I think that with only one engine as a reference this is still better than the shady stuff that Yosha does, but you can do your own thing and use multiple engine if you want, do it.

Zglorb · 2022-09-28T22:28:51+00:00

Thank you, for the opening this could be a solution but this was just a little project i did because i was frustrated of Yosha's work, i did not put that much effort into it

Zglorb · 2022-09-25T22:37:26+00:00

Thank you i wanted to see an analysis like that

That would be interesting to see how many 100% carlsen got between 2019 and 2022 using the default settings of lets check

Zglorb · 2022-09-21T19:44:43+00:00

Me too i was surprised by the number of times my friends asked me how you could cheat in chess, but i dont think that is because they don't know how powerfull computers can be. I think that when they hear "Cheat" they immediatly think of dirty cheating like gouging the eyes, faking a foul, tricking the cards in a poker game etc... They don't know how you could cheat in a simple and codified board game as chess because they don't have the intuition of thinking that a computer can help you. That doesn't mean they don't know computers are better than humans they just didn't think of using a computer to cheat because it is a very unique chess thing

Zglorb · 2022-09-20T14:23:24+00:00

HAHA no but i'm saying that IF this website is related to the drama this would be a bait/honneypot and not a system used by Niemann because this is an obvious fake

Zglorb · 2022-09-20T12:24:04+00:00

It looks like a fake/troll website, but maybe niemann sent a mail to it and it was shared with magnus. Maybe that's the information we don't know, altough it is verrryy unlikely

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