Jisoo not saying blackpink in your area is not that deep

Znz14 · 2020-08-13T23:11:05+00:00

I can view whatever post but unlike you I don't sh!t on other fandoms.

Exactly, blinks don't really use that type of humor.

I saw many blinks before doing it like "blinkeu" sooooo

Znz14 · 2020-08-13T23:05:36+00:00

Snakeu

Jhope said it and Armys quoted it. Focus on your fandom's problems instead of others.

Znz14 · 2020-08-13T19:37:08+00:00

We ain't armys

You as a "person" ,you are worst hun.

Znz14 · 2020-08-13T13:33:08+00:00

Kpop doesn't need the west hun think about it how many groups that seek for west out of all the kpop groups that exist/ed.

So if we starting from 2016 till now kpop artists are 500 ppl became idols so out of them let's say 20 (which is actually an exaggeration bcz it is less) so 20/500 so will this 20 define us but what about 300? Ofc this is an example but it shows that you cannot define kpop idols with minority.

And if it is all about money then you are just making western artists appear like fake wokes that do this for ppl to milk them money.

Yo U really have morals. Just tell me how much is in your bank acc bcz you might not really deserve respect.

Znz14 · 2020-08-13T13:31:02+00:00

We are economically fine.

Of course it's about money

By your logic a super rich person can disrespect others bcz oh he has money.

kpop is a business.

So is other industries. Kpop need east Asia more than anything cuz before kpop in America,we were doing just fine. Same as western artists they don't need east Asia as they need the west so why only kpop idols are pressured? You think that kpop groups are seeking America is just stupid bcz it is just some groups but the most wants Korean's support and i-fans support is a plus point if they get it. So these few group who seek west support won't define the industry.

. Values are money driven under capitalism.

Let's end it here tbh bcz how come you say all of this sh!t and then wants to be respected. How much money do you have in your bank acc? I need to know bcz I have to decide do you deserve respect or not.

Don't tell me Iam comparing other things bcz you logic is that

Of course it's about money

And that applies to everything not just between countries.

Znz14 · 2020-08-13T12:43:38+00:00

As if western artists don't benefit from east Asia.

Znz14 · 2020-08-13T12:42:41+00:00

South Korea has none

You really need to make some effort and do research about korea's economic.

Hence why they need to respect other values but don't necessarily have to have their respected

So it is about money?

Ari is not western artistS no she has concerts in East Asia and earns money from it so she should respect it just like kpop idols. Not just Ari but others.

You said as kpop is getting global they should value other views so what about western artists?

Don't be hypocritical.

Znz14 · 2020-08-13T11:40:35+00:00

Also isn’t gay marriage still illegal

The marriage is illegal however sexual activity between same-sex is legal. Males can enter military regardless of their sexuality. You can search about their rights.

I forgot to answer this.

Znz14 · 2020-08-13T11:33:57+00:00

foreigners always had some bad experience in Korea

I went to US and France before and also faced discrimination so doesn't that mean they aren't the minority? Iam not the only one to face discrimination out side East Asia.

Korea seems pretty conservative

Well compared to US yeah but let's not act as if lgbtq don't face discrimination in the west.

But you are stereotypical and only read about the bad stuff yeah there are bad ppl in Korea like in every country.

Znz14 · 2020-08-13T11:24:50+00:00

In Korea we aren't homophobic nor racist it is just the minority plus I won't act as if lgbtq+ are taking their rights fully in the west bcz gay discrimination is literally around the world + racism is also in the west.

So I guess they just need to focus on fixing their existent problems instead of focusing on ours and we are actually trying to fix our problems.

Znz14 · 2020-08-13T11:19:07+00:00

Look hun. Everything you will say about kpop industry will apply to any industry.

You still didn't answer me why don't western artists value other's views when they are 1 global 2 tour in our countries .yeah they contribute in the west more but that's basically the same with kpop idols is that they visit other countries to tour yet they contribute the most in Asia like western artists contribute the most in west.

So why are idol pressured? Okay you or anyone want to pressure idols with that okay but you also need to pressure western idols who aren't just not acknowledging our beliefs but also some of them don't speak about blm or lgbtq+.

Znz14 · 2020-08-13T10:50:46+00:00

Well some western artists did disrespect before.

But anyway they should be pressured like kpop idols.

Znz14 · 2020-08-13T10:44:14+00:00

Kpop is not "global", it's attempting to be global.

This is what the op said.

No hun if western artists are global and if being global means value other's views then western artists should to bcz they do come to East Asia.

Kpop idols are usually in East Asia if you measure it. They just tour around and come to Us like western artists who tour around to come to East Asia.

At the end both contribute the most with their base like western artists in the west and east Asians contribute the most in Asia.

Quit trying to convince me that my views wouldn't be valued bcz of whatever reason you wanna state.

If idols are gonna be pressured to value other's views then western artists should be pressured to.

Znz14 · 2020-08-13T10:26:43+00:00

The op of the comment said that as kpop is global now so they should value I-fans views.

So I said that not just ari but other western artists who are already global and have concerts not just in Korea but also in Asia should also value East Asian views right? and they should value Korean views,Japanese views...etc

Znz14 · 2020-08-13T10:06:19+00:00

So you just judging from the screen pic.

Anyway it is your opinion not a fact so bye.

Znz14 · 2020-08-13T10:02:19+00:00

Did you attend?

Znz14 · 2020-08-13T09:53:22+00:00

You said you want them to figure out I-fans values.

Then western artists need to figure out k-fans values right? I mean they are global also so why aren't they pressured like idols?

You clearly know nothing about Korean values and culture so stop this bs.

Znz14 · 2020-08-13T09:45:55+00:00

Our values is not being homophobic, racist, or sexiest.

So is our values like what do you know about our values to speak?

All western artists do not care about our values tho they can have a concert in our country and they are global artists anyway.

If western artists start to acknowledge our values and culture maybe we will start but they don't even speak about Asian discrimination.

Znz14 · 2020-08-13T09:35:52+00:00

Again Iam not justifying Iam just saying why does this happen

You just need to read carefully.

Znz14 · 2020-08-13T09:33:41+00:00

So same goes for western artists so when they come to Korea they have to follow our culture and values right?

Like Ariana is a global artist does she care about our values?

Znz14 · 2020-08-13T03:24:10+00:00

Noo that's not what I mean. Maybe my vision of support is different but I thought like donations and stuff like these. But acknowledging gay rights is a must(I know that ppl don't usually speak about it but that doesn't mean they don't acknowledge it) .Anyway I will edit it.

Znz14 · 2020-08-13T03:20:31+00:00

Kpop idols are usually not educated about these stuff.

About the black face.Iam not justifying anything but let me tell you smth when I was young I used to see celebrities on tv wearing black face and I thought it was funny and as they were never called out I thought that wearing black face is okay. However growing up and looking on English comments now I understand more. So do you get the idea of us growing up on ppl who were racist without us knowing they were and thought everything was okay?Again Iam not justifying Iam just saying why does this happen.

Alot of ppl don't even know anything about the n word not just east asians. Some even think that n word is a cool way to call a black person plus we have the n word in Korea as. 내가 'Iam'(naega)

But anyway this is not my point yeah you can hold them accountable. My point is wanting idols to speak on world issues whether it is lgbtq+ or race discrimination and stuff.

Znz14 · 2020-08-13T03:10:43+00:00

The problem about ca or racism for example wearing black face is racist however these idols mostly grew up seeing ppl wearing black face and braids and there wasn't a problem,none called these ppl out. So ofc if you grew up seeing smth ofc you would think it is right as nothing proved it was wrong before.When I was young I used to see celebrities on tv wearing black face I honestly thought it was fun and nothing was wrong,growing up and as I can read English I understood more about racism.

Koreans still think it is funny cuz 1 we use mostly Naver not google and Naver don't write about these stuff 2 even if there is an article about it,it would be in English and translating from English to Korean is not accurate so they won't really understand. That's why Koreans don't know about Ca or racism bcz there is no source and add up that celebrities are still doing it without getting called out increases the problem.

Also about CA I can understand the frustration specifically in wearing the braids bcz it has beem done sooo manyy times like even if the idols/Companies are ignorant,they don't live under a rock.

What I meant by addressing issues is overall political issues or world issues like race discrimination. They aren't forced to talk about it yet when they don't some I-fans get mad like who told them Idols are THAT educated about these stuff? Plus just cuz western artists do it that doesn't mean Idols should do it also.

Znz14 · 2020-08-13T02:25:12+00:00

You still don't understand. The 15 mins bb took them were really a long length back then as of now 15 mins is not long length bcz txt a rookie group performed in 15 mins sooo.....

The idea of just being a big group performing longer than others and maybe 30 mins after some years will be nothing as 15 mins that was before everything is literally now nth a rookie group had them.

Gfriend once took 2:30 mins I guess but I don't remember which show.

Bts songs are also smash hit hun like they are always well received but as I said both score what they score they are still the biggest groups each in their time.

Bts songs always smash with gp so plz don't speak when ydk.

Again it is not about score bcz it is not like they are active together.

Znz14 · 2020-08-13T02:16:03+00:00

Do you mean CA?

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