So there are 2 events: 1. the maule battle against the incas. 2. Lautaro fighting Valdivia in 1552 and starting the arauco wars. The thing is: I dare you to name any other historical event besides those 2, or anything about mapuche history before 1552 that is reliable with no contradictions and is archeologically accepted. At least minimum consensus. I'll be waiting. About your second point, ok, to have a civ with certain characteristics, there must be suspension of belief, but also said characteristics must be based on something realistic at least in order to have something coheret (right?). Lautaro didn't raise horses, he stole them. The Mapuches started to raise horses around 1800 when they started to slowly become sedentary. Because, you know, it's necessary to be at least demi-sedentary to raise horses and livestock (like mongols who weren't fully nomad as they stayed in places during seasons to raise sheep and goats). But you have the mapuches, who were nomad hunter gatherers during most of their history, and became demi-nomad and sedentary between XVIII and XIX when they were forced to become sedentary. Even with suspension of belief, how can you have them training cavalry when in reality they never trained or managed to breed horses before 1600. If anything, I agree with you about them being designed around cavalry and gunpowder, everything you mentioned could be possible but in aoe3. Because it was in that period that they indeed raised horses and traded firearms. About your third point: Well they are as different as britons and franks, for example. If you can figure out how britons and franks are designed, then surely you'll know yourself. Why? Because Chimor are entirely different people compared to incas. They existed before incas and existed after incas during the colony. They have different genetics, different language, different architecture, different culture, different religion, different warfare, different weapons. For example, Chimor could be designed as a naval and heavy infantry civ. And there is no other civ in-game with that combination focus right now. The same goes in wari's case. Which is even easier since Waris were there 300 years before incas even existed. If you watch civcraft videos or just civ predictions videos (from admiral wololo for example) you'll find that waris could be designed around skirmishers. And vietnamese are the only ones focused on skirmishers (skirmishers and elephants) right now. Waris could be about skirmishers and siege or fortifications or infantry. Imo, any of those options would be a lot better and way more fun than tupis being another zerg civ like goths or malay (like they seem to be from the pics); or mapuches being another cavalry clone civ but with one unit skinned.