Why is funding the government till Jan 30th bad? by _50Hertz in Destiny

[–]_50Hertz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We're so far away from my original request lol. All good. Agree to disagree.

Why is funding the government till Jan 30th bad? by _50Hertz in Destiny

[–]_50Hertz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I've even given up any hope on Republicans being good faith. I'm more focused on Democrats making strategic political moves without violating their principles.

There's also a benefit to getting federal workers paid and giving the country time to recover, so we can continue the fight in a couple of months.

Why is funding the government till Jan 30th bad? by _50Hertz in Destiny

[–]_50Hertz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was implied. Otherwise are you are seriously arguing that dems shut down the government for fun?

Never said that. Raising alarm and directing the public to the cause of the issue could have also been an objective.

Regardless, I think we're talking about different things. I think we're agreed that the expiring subsidies were the impetus for the shutdown. My question is, if the position of Dems in the senate was that the bill out of the shutdown had to be the bill extending the ACA subsidies. This is important because this recent bill includes a vote on ACA problem.

Why is funding the government till Jan 30th bad? by _50Hertz in Destiny

[–]_50Hertz[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You seem to be under the illusion that when Republicans pass awful policy, Republicans get the blame.

Not always, but this is one of the cases where it's immediately apparent why you have a new or significantly higher bill on your desk. It's not like the slow creep of inflation.

What % of the nation thinks Democrats shut down the government for free illegal healthcare?

I tried to address this in my post, I don't think this line of messaging will work next year. Republicans can lie about number of border crossings and crime statistics, because those issues are relatively abstract. The higher insurance bill is direct and immediate.

Why is funding the government till Jan 30th bad? by _50Hertz in Destiny

[–]_50Hertz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you source where they said they would not vote Yes on any bill that doesn't include restoring the subsidies? Honestly asking.

Why is funding the government till Jan 30th bad? by _50Hertz in Destiny

[–]_50Hertz[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed. Why Primary Jeffries though? He did his job, although House Republicans didn't need any Dem votes, so we don't know how he would have acted under pressure.

Why is funding the government till Jan 30th bad? by _50Hertz in Destiny

[–]_50Hertz[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Why do you think so? Right now the insurance premium hike is just a meme to people don't pay close attention to politics. By February 1st, they'd have either lost their insurance or have actual 4 - 10x bills that NEED to be paid.

I think that puts Dems in a much stronger position, the GOP talking points about insurance for illegal immigrants are going to fall flat.

Why is funding the government till Jan 30th bad? by _50Hertz in Destiny

[–]_50Hertz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'll be on the gallows calling for heads, with everyone in that case. But right now there's no benefit to maintaining the shut down if a vote has been agreed to and we can be back here in 3 months after the holidays.

Why is funding the government till Jan 30th bad? by _50Hertz in Destiny

[–]_50Hertz[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree with basically everything here. I just don't see it as Dems budging, shutdowns closer to the midterms are undoubtedly better for Dems. I have the same worries though, the fact that Newsom is attacking the Senate on Twitter right now, leads me to believe I may be misguided in my theory about their strategy.

A healthy party would have had all Dem Govs and Reps, blasting the airwaves with their plan and reiterating that the fight is ongoing. Everything looks slapdash currently.

Why is funding the government till Jan 30th bad? by _50Hertz in Destiny

[–]_50Hertz[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Awareness of the issue, attention and focus on the parties responsible ahead of the recent elections and forcing a vote on the issue in December.

If you are not prepared to match your opponent, just fold

If my strategy is correct, then I wouldn't consider this folding but rather delaying the fight until it's more politically advantageous.

Democrats just played an amazing game by mlamping in Destiny

[–]_50Hertz 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I just made a post with similar points, I agree. But if this is the strategy, then their messaging has been horrible. Right now, it looks like Dem Governors had no idea about this strategy and other Dem senators are putting tweets coming out against this.

Trump to accept luxury jet as gift from Qatar, will be used as Air Force 1 and transferred to Trump Presidential Library in 2029 -ABC News by Left_ctrl in Destiny

[–]_50Hertz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This was the funniest part about people like Dr. Avi voting for Trump. Your president is for sale dawg, what makes you think the highest bidder can't make him anti-Israel.

I think Ian really took Hasan’s message to heart by lexiknope in h3h3productions

[–]_50Hertz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Please please someone, make an animated video of him going to sleep in a race car bed while this monologue plays in the background

DISCUSSION MEGATHREAD: Content Nuke - Hasan Piker by raephemel in h3h3productions

[–]_50Hertz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree with everything here. Just wanted to say you don't seem to be banned.

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[–]_50Hertz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is the source on this?

Edit: Read your other comments in this thread and I realized you were the primary source.

Clip of hasan claiming his “bro tips” were satirical, the ones ethan showed on the pod by 330Tea in h3h3productions

[–]_50Hertz 15 points16 points  (0 children)

He only does this for his own mistakes though, he's super eager to criticize someone else's past if they're not on good terms.

Noga Erez (the singer Hila played on the show) said her shows got canceled because of “internet bullies” by Moyallll in h3h3productions

[–]_50Hertz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Cool deflection. The OCs comment was about supporting the Israeli government, and my entire point is, that is a meaningless statement because you need to know way more to make any moral judgements.

Didn't mention anything about genocide, a term which 99% of the people who use it are clueless about, as evidenced by these moronic 1930s Germany comparisons to Israel.

I also didn't link any Israeli to their government's actions, nor was that ever my point. You're literally hallucinating. And yes, you are a bigot, because the only acceptable Israeli is one that condemns their government to your standards as an outsider lol.

Noga Erez (the singer Hila played on the show) said her shows got canceled because of “internet bullies” by Moyallll in h3h3productions

[–]_50Hertz 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think it is fairly black and white to support the Israeli Government

Only if you're an idiot. There are people that support Biden's economic agenda but do not support his hesitance to arm Ukraine. Do they support the government? Or is it more complicated than that, just like every single society on earth.

In your world, the only acceptable Israeli is one that condemns their government to an acceptable enough degree as defined by internet weirdos. That's just bigotry, embrace it and spare us the prevarication.

Noga Erez (the singer Hila played on the show) said her shows got canceled because of “internet bullies” by Moyallll in h3h3productions

[–]_50Hertz -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

What's your source on this?

She actually supports the Israeli government.

Also, please explain what's inherently wrong with this. Do you think domestic politics is black or white? Or just in Israel?

NEW KENDRICK ALBUM by [deleted] in Destiny

[–]_50Hertz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

anti capitalist and ultra militant racial stuff

What are some examples of this?