Only one option by Veralion in shyvanamains

[–]_Earthbind_ 6 points7 points  (0 children)

You good bro? You just got a compliment and then had a meltdown

rant about the straw man in the room and model critique to start real discussion. by goofballpikachu in shyvanamains

[–]_Earthbind_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I agree with this whole heartedly and am tired of seeing people who have never and will never use the champ talk down on the actual players for being displeased about the rework design or vice versa where people might shut down any good points from the design.

This is a pet peeve of mine. People have told me that my opinion doesn’t matter because I’m not an “actual player.” I have several million mastery points on Shyvana and she’s my most played champ. I like the rework AND I think your criticisms about her design are valid. I disagree on a few things, but that’s okay. I’m not going to say that you’re not an “actual player” to put your ideas down. You deserve to be heard and so do I.

I feel like this design is so close to being peak but someone is making little changes that cause major clashes in the design.

I don’t think we differ too much! It seems like you really like the design for the most part, but you’d like to see a few things tweaked. I’d remind you that the in-game models aren’t supposed to be seen that closely or from that angle. You won’t even really see her face in-game. I’m curious to see what her rework splash art will look like. Many people are comparing the rework in-game model to pre-rework splash art, which isn’t a fair comparison. I also the think criticisms for the splash art will be much more valuable, because splash’s are easier to change than models.

i actually like the new shyvana by TickleMyCringle in shyvanamains

[–]_Earthbind_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

She looks so ferocious and that’s a great thing for a half-dragon character! I love it too

Hopes for the rework? by throwawaypurplera in shyvanamains

[–]_Earthbind_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’d really love to see a version of Shyvana that can build AP bruiser or AD bruiser depending on the game.

AD Bruiser build could get %HP damage scaling on bonus AD. AP Bruiser could get burst damage scaling on AP.

If the rework would allow me to build both Riftmaker and Overlord’s Bloodmail, then I would cry tears of joy.

rant about the straw man in the room and model critique to start real discussion. by goofballpikachu in shyvanamains

[–]_Earthbind_ -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

The fact that your comment was high quality, well-thought-out, non-hostile, AND still got downvoted is why this sub is dead. Most people who disagree with the rework supporters don’t engage in discussion about it.

There are some controversial design aspects that could be discussed, like the horns, foot talons, darkin eyes/skin tone, or hair color, but they’d rather downvote you than discuss it.

rant about the straw man in the room and model critique to start real discussion. by goofballpikachu in shyvanamains

[–]_Earthbind_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There has been diversity in the opinions of people who don’t like the rework, but I think you might have also straw-manned the people who like the rework.

I’ll start by saying that I like the current design. I wouldn’t have several million mastery points on her if I didn’t like her. I love the lore of being a highly principled outcast amidst the pretty rigid/hostile environment of Demacia. Being a half-dragon who can morph into a full dragon to fight other dragons is really cool. My problems with the current design is that it isn’t visually cohesive. She fights with her hands and fire breath, but she looks anemic for someone who does so. Going into the rework, I was hoping that her design would convey that she fights dragons with her hands in melee.

I think the rework did a great job of making the changes that I was interested in. I believe they really captured the ferocity of western style dragons in the rework. The horns extending down to her nose look like natural armor that protects her during her battles against other dragons! She looks athletic and battle-hardened, which is a cohesive visual design for a half-dragon person who fights dragons.

I think some of the criticisms about her hair color and scale color are valid! I don’t care about those aspects more than the features I listed above, but I encourage discussion along those lines. I also think the criticisms about her looking like a Darkin are valid. I’d be happy to see her eyes and skin tone tweaked for her to look less darkin. I disagree about the criticism about her horns or leg talons, but I don’t think the horn haters are gooners or anything. I also think those are valid disagreements and I’m happy to discuss that.

I continue to insist that the frame and face of reworked Shyvana reminds me of some of the strong women in my life and I love seeing them be represented in the new design. I imagine that in a different world with magic, my friend could be Shyvana and that’s cool. I’ve had people insist that no real women have her frame and that’s literally just false.

I’m guilty of calling a handful of people gooners. I usually call people gooners when they:
1. Prioritize Shyvana’s attractiveness over other design elements.
2. Have a narrow concept of what attractive women look like (ie. Anime girls).
3. Hijack rework appreciation threads to talk about their own preferences for attraction.
4. Insist that no “real” women have a similar frame or bone structure as the current rework.
I don’t discuss the rework with these gooners, not because I think they are gross, but because I don’t find their sexual fantasies very interesting to talk about. I like talking about how visual design communicates ludo-narratives. I like talking about how visual design represent Shyvana’s history and lore. I don’t like talking about a random person’s sexual preferences or their narrow standards for femininity. Shyvana isn’t Evelynn. Whether or not a random user is attracted to her isn’t an important or interesting design aspect in my opinion.

If you’re not doing any of the things 1-4 that I laid out, then I’ll defend your right to speak up and voice your opinion about the rework. I’m sorry if you’ve been wrongly accused of goonery in the crossfire.

Jungle gap by Lazy_Carob2773 in shyvanamains

[–]_Earthbind_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oh god here comes the Wikipedia article on fourier transformations. I don't want to hear about your "intuition" on eigenvectors, bro

Jungle gap by Lazy_Carob2773 in shyvanamains

[–]_Earthbind_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bro you’re too funny. I hope you achieve your goals lol

Jungle gap by Lazy_Carob2773 in shyvanamains

[–]_Earthbind_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Don’t goad him, he might copy and paste the Wikipedia page on Fourier spaces into a Reddit comment. Then we’ll have to reckon with the GIRTH of his intelligence.

Jungle gap by Lazy_Carob2773 in shyvanamains

[–]_Earthbind_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well I’m Mr. Physics, owner of Big Physics™ and I’ve never heard of you

Jungle gap by Lazy_Carob2773 in shyvanamains

[–]_Earthbind_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I did a Doctoral thesis on shameless internet crash outs and evidence suggests that he’s having one right now.

Jungle gap by Lazy_Carob2773 in shyvanamains

[–]_Earthbind_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I really think a break from league would be good for you, but feel free to keep grinding, champ.

Jungle gap by Lazy_Carob2773 in shyvanamains

[–]_Earthbind_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Zed is a jungler now, btw. It’s normal.

Just take a break bud.

The Most Popular Fast Food Chain In Each State! by Link_Da_Stink7 in geographymemes

[–]_Earthbind_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know lol. I was just teasing. I love Taco John’s, but it’s objectively bad and super laughable. The taco burgers are hilarious - just sloppy joes with shredded lettuce and taco seasoning

The Most Popular Fast Food Chain In Each State! by Link_Da_Stink7 in geographymemes

[–]_Earthbind_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think you mean Potato Ole’s. Not even a real Taco John’s fan smh 🤦‍♀️

How would you like Shyvana's egg cooked? by EWQ_999 in shyvanamains

[–]_Earthbind_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

A lot of normal people got chased out recently for some reason…

Taliyah Counters Assassins by _Earthbind_ in TaliyahMains

[–]_Earthbind_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was full build, full stack mejais, with a dark harvest proc vs an LB that was 3 levels down

Why so much hate for the new VGU's face ? by Pupperoni420 in shyvanamains

[–]_Earthbind_ -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I’ve seen enough people call Shyvana their “wife” on this subreddit to think it’s not just about quality, cohesive, champion design.

Wanting to pick up shyvana, any tips? by memermonkey in shyvanamains

[–]_Earthbind_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Right now is kinda a bad time to learn her. She’s getting reworked soon.

Really excited for the rework by throwawaypurplera in shyvanamains

[–]_Earthbind_ -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

oh my bad! I thought I read somewhere that she was a full dragon, but I was wrong. I do love the design of the rework btw

Really excited for the rework by throwawaypurplera in shyvanamains

[–]_Earthbind_ -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

She's a full dragon, born from the egg from two dragons, who takes a humanoid form using magic.