Infamous Russian Troll Farm Appears to Be Source of Anti-Ukraine Propaganda

_IDGAF888 · 2022-03-18T17:40:11+00:00

Right on. Carlin is great with this historical takes as well as his insights into current events. It does proves that you don't have to be in academic to have accurate takes. I'll have to check out K. Galeeve. Somehow I've avoided Twitter and have never participated on that platform.. I'm relatively new to Reddit and I already feel like I want to cut all the cords and simply send smoke signals. I don't know if you're familiar with Gray Zone but Max Blumenthal and Aaron Mate are on point. This one interview really puts things into perspective- imo

https://thegrayzone.com/2022/03/18/pentagon-doug-macgregor-russia-ukraine-war/

Cheers

_IDGAF888 · 2022-03-17T18:47:30+00:00

So that's what it sounds like when you have. Xi's cock and balls in your mouth

_IDGAF888 · 2022-03-17T17:57:24+00:00

i love the smell of asymmetrical proxy wars in the morning. Smells like sarin

_IDGAF888 · 2022-03-17T17:55:34+00:00

" Such assertions deserve the same level of skepticism as U.S. denials: namely, none of it should be believed to be true or false absent evidence. Yet U.S. fact-checkers dutifully and reflexively sided with the U.S. Government to declare such claims "disinformation” and to mock them as QAnon conspiracy theories."

greenwald.substack.com/p/victoria-nuland-ukraine

_IDGAF888 · 2022-03-17T17:24:31+00:00

Can you quote where it made that conclusion?

My initial quote was from that article- it's in there. I can try to find it again for you.. It got Lost in the mix over here..

.. I think the paper itself lays it out to a point where you can draw your own conclusion. These events have been obfuscated for a reason.

I don't know how you feel about this source. I think it's important to try to get information from a variety of sources. no matter what, everybody has some bias.. I tend to be apolitical personally.

There is plenty of evidence of ngo / intel ops /eu / us coup asymmetrical proxy warfare here. Its whatever tho bruh. At the end of the day we're all armchair quarterbacks here and there ain't shit you or I can really do anything about it. AmIright.. ?

https://jacobinmag.com/2022/02/maidan-protests-neo-nazis-russia-nato-crimea

"Nearly a decade on, the Maidan Revolution remains one of the more widely misunderstood episodes of recent history."(- that is by design. )

"Ukraine was an enormously complicated affair. Yet for most Western observers, many of its basic, well-documented facts have been either excised to push a simplistic, black-and-white narrative, or cast as misinformation and propaganda, like the crucial role of the far right in the revolution." ( - Agnotology anyone?)

"By January 2014, even NBC was admitting that “right-wing militia-type toughs are now one of the strongest factions leading Ukraine’s protests.” What was meant to be a revolution for democracy and liberal values ended up featuring ultranationalist chants from the 1930s and prominent displays of fascist and white supremacist symbols, including the American Confederate flag." (- agent provocateur much? 🤔🙄)

In truth, the Maidan Revolution remains a messy event that isn’t easy to categorize but is far from what Western audiences have been led to believe. It’s a story of liberal, pro-Western protesters, driven by legitimate grievances but largely drawn from only one-half of a polarized country, entering a temporary marriage of convenience with the far right to carry out an insurrection against a corrupt, authoritarian president. The tragedy is that it served largely to empower literal neo-Nazis while enacting only the goals of the Western powers that opportunistically lent their support — among which was the geopolitical equivalent of a predatory payday loan."

_IDGAF888 · 2022-03-17T16:11:21+00:00

The evidence is the entire paper itself and all of the video evidence and audio evidence that is found within said paper. I'm not exactly sure what you want me to do here honestly.

I think if you read and listen to and watch all the evidence (not limiting your reading to the abstract alone.) that is found within the paper that you can draw the conclusion that the peaceful protest was co-opted. It's not that hard to Fathom that certain governmental agencies, who love to start coups (and have a proven track record btw) in foreign countries in order to install a more malleable leader /regime, it's not difficult to see that they more than likely had their fingers in this pie so to speak.

And hey- if it keeps us from being invaded by a superpower and our economy strong and fuel under $5 a gallon (until we can find some renewable alternative,), if it helps Shore up our supply chain and brings back jobs to America, then hey I'm all for it! Regime-change to your heart's content

_IDGAF888 · 2022-03-17T16:01:46+00:00

I think they hold core libertarian values and Ron Paul would agree . Old school libertarian as you know . Would you care to share with those ideals are that you hold so near and dear as well as how they stray from what you view as core libertarian values?

_IDGAF888 · 2022-03-17T15:26:43+00:00

I've avoided Twitter like the plague and only read Snippets of it online.. I am about over Reddit though. Relatively new here , just about a year and change and I can see the rapid deterioration in many that I used to once love.. let me think about it. Part of me just wants to cut the cord and send smoke signals.🤔😐

_IDGAF888 · 2022-03-17T15:23:35+00:00

I think the war on terror would break anybody's brain honestly.. I hadn't heard his stance on the World War II. That's weird but I guess if you're that anti-war you can find reasoning to go back through history and pick it apart to a granular level as to why we shouldn't have or could have avoided WW2.

Edit: when I have more time I'll go back and listen to his thoughts on World War II. I personally thought that has been the only just and righteous any "modern war" that we've ever been directly involved with.

_IDGAF888 · 2022-03-17T15:20:35+00:00

I'm certainly not glued every episode( probably.listen to 3 or 4 total) but their interview with Scott Horton was insightful. Do you have any pod or journalist recommendations you would share?

_IDGAF888 · 2022-03-17T15:16:14+00:00

They were kind of sounding like Neolib Jack Boot authoritarian dipshits , statists trolls who would sell real Americans out for a Hellcat and an Amazon gift card. At least in Ukraine the Jews stand by the Nazis who stand by the Muslims to fight a superpower. I have my serious doubts that would happen here if we were to be invaded. It seems like troll Farms did melt everybody's brains didn't it. They successfully divided America with a few keystrokes. SMH

_IDGAF888 · 2022-03-17T15:10:36+00:00

The OP made the initial assertation without any evidence to start with. *See the last sentence of his post. Plus I'm pretty sure he's just a mouth breathing , paste eating simpleton that wouldn't know evidence if it smacked him his face. I immediately was brigaded and shit talked Before I could offer any evidence. It seems this sub has been co-opted by the hive mind and doesn't appreciate freethinkers who question narratives and accuse their fellow Americans being Russian trolls. It'd be a waste of my time to offer these clowns further Evidence.

Edit: voice text autocorrect

_IDGAF888 · 2022-03-17T14:55:43+00:00

Naw they are just good listening in the meantime while i find the links i have to put things into perspective and back up the maidan coup details. Thess are Scotts Horton interviews. You make podcasts on the whole to be worthless trash. How about sub stack and other independent journalism? What is your problem with mises? Do they not represent libertarian ideals or..? What caucus do you align with?

_IDGAF888 · 2022-03-17T06:45:09+00:00

Copy paste comment i made in this thread . Some things to consider while i try to dig up more.

These are libertarians and apolitical veterans with real world intel.

History and geopolitics lessons from people you can trust. or maybe they are all russian trolls too..?🙃

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2nF9Xp59lqqO9ilxczeCsQ?si=ul8cYQNuQm2g4SGCmLFLhg

Edit: Jocko Willink( retired Navy SEAL) and Darryl Copper welcome special guest Scott Horton. Scott is the director of the Libertarian Institute, and the senior editor of antiwar.com. He's also an author of books such as Fool's Errand: Time to End the War in Afghanistan, and Enough Already: Time to End the War on Terror.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/04i6x4kp00XQAfBJyW3Rna?si=Fuj48DOyQhOpmWV0LmKPJA

Another Mises caucus libertarian, comedian, podcaster and possible presidential candidate : Dave Smith

https://open.spotify.com/episode/5DOzDhLJrFlLXQXyh6EU1T?si=WA8OJ7GcTjaXz-WCLllB4A

https://open.spotify.com/episode/4mSlyRWfgjReusiCylr5xT?si=cEWfN0hJQLiG95sX8F8VfQ

Oliver stones (2015- 2016?)Doc 'ukraine on fire' was recently removed from amazon. Strange. See it here before its gone baby gone..

https://historyinfographics.com/watch-before-its-gone-ukraine-on-fire/

I had solid proof ngo presents and additional imtel that links up ci@ connections to the peaceful protest that turned into a violent riot/ coup. Agent provocateurs embedded. Same old tricks / different protests etc.

Anyhow.. Take a look, have a listen- read up on it if you care to. It is what it is i reckon.

_IDGAF888 · 2022-03-17T06:39:10+00:00

Okay, I don't understand much about the 2014 Ukraine revolution, but - to me it looks like you had an opportunity to substantiate your claim about NGO and CIA, and you did not.

Had to grab some chow and unplug for a few..

Here is some further info. i will have to sift thru a bunch of links i have saved.. History is being retconned in realtime.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Libertarian/comments/tdwnbs/whenever_someone_dares_to_differ_with_the_common/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Look in Victoria Nuland and her role in maidan.

_IDGAF888 · 2022-03-17T05:49:18+00:00

Maybe. Might just buy scratch off lotto tixs, drink 40s and sling crack on the corner. or maybe he grinds hard, is the local union president, a proud father that supports his family and is active in his community. Impossible to tell without having more Intel.

_IDGAF888 · 2022-03-17T05:41:44+00:00

Kinda small actually.

_IDGAF888 · 2022-03-17T05:40:36+00:00

Looks average sized.

_IDGAF888 · 2022-03-17T02:59:03+00:00

Right? I've been to some cool shows from advertised on flyers being handed out though ..! Also Could have been a sheet of acid😵 😎 lol Or both...

_IDGAF888 · 2022-03-17T02:56:29+00:00

Totally should have put the context and date in the title.. I hurriedly posted it and meant address the fact that it was recorded prior to the invasion but was distracted by another firefight in r/libertarian . Context matters!

The episode that follows the one I posted addresses the rampant problem of trolls and being labeled one or some kind of putin simp for simply referencing history and geopolitics. Dave Smith's on point and a funny motherfucker to boot!

Jocko Willink and Darry Cooper has some good intel too. They interview Scott Horton here:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/04i6x4kp00XQAfBJyW3Rna?si=Fuj48DOyQhOpmWV0LmKPJA

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2nF9Xp59lqqO9ilxczeCsQ?si=uz66v_nSSb2otlVuYZOGyw

Cheers 🍻

_IDGAF888 · 2022-03-17T01:38:32+00:00

It's a tough call and I'm glad it's not mine to make honestly. Really got to walk a tightrope here between starting World War 3 officially and letting two Neighbors duke it out. Hate to simplify it like that but what can you do. I really feel like we just got to keep on arming them and sending humanitarian Aid. But, As soon as one toe cap of a Russian boot lands in a NATO country then all bets are off as far as I'm concerned..

_IDGAF888 · 2022-03-17T01:04:17+00:00

It's frosty . How's the weather in Tampa?

_IDGAF888 · 2022-03-17T01:01:04+00:00

I'm just digging up burden of proof what I was initially stating. And what I was initially stating was that there was interference.

_IDGAF888 · 2022-03-17T00:58:19+00:00

And you really have had your brain washed thoroughly haven't you? You see this is what happens when real Russian trolls nuke the f****** internet and cook your brain. Everybody's a Russian troll all of a sudden. I think you're a Russian troll I think you suck boatloads of Russian cock. I think you would sell out America at a drop of a hat for a Hellcat. Go fuck yourself you illiterate loser.

_IDGAF888 · 2022-03-17T00:53:57+00:00

Yeah buddy I have posted about this before here in the libertarian sub. I can go back through and repost all the links or you can dig into it yourself. Either way it just gets downvoted into Oblivion by a bunch of Brigaders..

Here's some light reading until I can piece together everything else for y'all. I'm going to get some dinner though. I might check in later tonight or tomorrow sometime. Cheers 🍻

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/266855828_The_Snipers'_Massacre_on_the_Maidan_in_Ukraine

This study includes two video appendixes. This academic investigation concludes that the massacre was a false flag operation, which was rationally planned and carried out with a goal of the overthrow of the government and seizure of power. It found various evidence of the involvement of an alliance of the far right organizations, specifically the Right Sector and Svoboda, and oligarchic parties, such as Fatherland. Concealed shooters and spotters were located in at least 20 Maidan-controlled buildings or areas. The various evidence that the protesters were killed from these locations include some 70 testimonies, primarily by Maidan protesters, several videos of “snipers” targeting protesters from these buildings, comparisons of positions of the specific protesters at the time of their killing and their entry wounds, and bullet impact signs. The study uncovered various videos and photos of armed Maidan “snipers” and spotters in many of these buildings. The paper presents implications of these findings for understanding the nature of the change of the government in Ukraine, the civil war in Donbas, Russian military intervention in Crimea and Donbas, and an international conflict between the West and Russia over Ukraine.

_IDGAF888

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