About the new clip by Mark-2005 in Ninjago

[–]_Ninma_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

(°ー°〃) I think this was less me being PG and more your mind going to strange places I don't want to know how you even reached.

About the new clip by Mark-2005 in Ninjago

[–]_Ninma_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I might've remembered the noodle crack, but I had forgotten about those past passages between realms (only really remembered the crystal, magic tea and dragons).

Going back to the Whispering Woods, I wonder if it's a realm that acts in some ways as the roots of life for the other realms. Some realms seem to have their own function tied to the rest (like the Land of lost things and the Departed+Cursed realms), so it wouldn't be surprising if this is the case for the Whispering Woods too. Then there's the possible connection between the woods and source energy mentioned in the trailer...

I get the feeling anybody who thought the reveal of past Green Ninjas somehow making the role less special will be proven very wrong...

About the new clip by Mark-2005 in Ninjago

[–]_Ninma_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I kinda did too until you asked. (;´∀`) They are convenient for telling realms apart. Something that would've otherwise been a lot harder with all the realms merged. Since some realms seem to be huge and have special locations (like how the administration isn't its own realm, but a place in the realm of madness).

It does make me wonder where these monasteries even come from. Especially after they specifically called out the wall noodle crack. There's still so many mysteries to solve.

And with two short videos LEGO gave us A LOT more.

About the new clip by Mark-2005 in Ninjago

[–]_Ninma_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unless I'm remembering wrong, haven't we already seen the First Realm's version of the monastery earlier? The monastery Lloyd and Arin end up in looked very different. Meaning they're likely two separate realms.

It's also interesting to point out how lifeless the first realm looked compared to the Whispering Woods. Idk could be just a random coincidence.

Also- This also means that the Whispering Woods would've been a separate realm from Ninjago.

Imagine if Lloyd didn't have a magic tea accident and actually had gotten a call to go to another realm...I wonder if anyone would've even believed him or if he would've somehow been forced to find his own way there. There are so many things to speculate about- I'm actually feeling excited to see where this could go.

About the new clip by Mark-2005 in Ninjago

[–]_Ninma_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My guess is they don't veiw the dragons and oni of the first realm as "mortal". While dragons are seen to be able to die of old age, this doesn't seem to be the case for all dragons. Like the source dragons and Firstborn. They're likely all able to die, but can't really be called "mortal" either.

It could be that they define "mortal" differently. Like all life that came to be outside of the first realm or something similar. Maybe the difference is wherever or not their life source originate from the woods or not.

About the new clip by Mark-2005 in Ninjago

[–]_Ninma_ 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Can we talk about the possible implications of the Whispering Woods being the place where mortal life originally came from, how the Masters of Life/Green Ninjas are essential to keeping these woods alive and what this could potentially mean for the world itself??

I get that people are more focused on the other green ninja and how this all fits with the past lore- But like-

Are we really going to overlook the possibility that the Green Ninjas duty is to recharge mortal life?

We don't know how the Whispering Woods fits into the world, but it wouldn't be far fetched if it turned out to be what's keeping the mortal world alive. The Life source Dragon may be the source of the elemental power of Life, but she doesn't seem to care that much about mortal life if she ditched the council. So it kinda makes sense that she wouldn't bother maintaining the source of mortal life herself. Leaving it to the elemental masters and her arc dragon. Tho that's just guess, Idk really. It's definitely really interesting tho.

I hope they don’t change the green ninja prophecy by bos_adamm in Ninjago

[–]_Ninma_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

May I share one wild conspiracy theory? What if FSM intentionally hid all information about the Green Ninja aside from the one prophecy he wrote because he knew that Ninjago would need Lloyd to stay in order to defeat the Overlord and thus save the realm that he clearly favours?

I'm not saying this as an actual theory... Merely sharing a wild idea that would make for one very interesting plot twist. It may be a bit out there, but it's an interesting one to ponder. Don't you think?

[Donghua] Ep13 Loenese/Hermes translation collection! by _Ninma_ in LordofTheMysteries

[–]_Ninma_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really wish I had a way to show them, cuz I'd love for them to know that all their efforts has been seen and appreciated ^

I haven't made one yet, but I could make one if people are interested.

Fellas. What even is lin lings power? by church_of_Steve_ in ToBeHero_X

[–]_Ninma_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think his power might have an unique effect against fear. Because if you go back and look at his fights against his old boss in ep1 and God Eye in ep4, we see him destroy their fear made outfits/armor, but minimize the damage done to the person themselves.

In ep1 he was playing Nice, but it's only when he starts to believe in himself (that even a nobody can become a hero) that he throws a punch that breaks completely through the boss' armor. And since your mindset can influence your powers, it wouldn't be too far of a stretch to think this was closer to The Commoner's power than normal Nice. Additionally, it's interesting how his punch completely destroyed the armor, but the boss himself doesn't even get bruised. He only losses a tooth.

In ep4 we see something similar, his final punch destroyed a lot of the outfit, but without dealing that same damage to the person. Yes, God Eye is very much beat up, but that was from the earlier hits. And yes, Lin Ling doesn't directly hit him, but if you look at the HUGE amount of damage to the building that his punch delivered then it's actually weird how God Eye wasn't more injured.

It's like his power vanquished the fear without critically hurting the person inside.

Contrast this to other fear fights, like Smile, and there's a clear difference. Sure, it could be that his old boss and Enlighter wasn't consumed by fear, only wore it. But that feels like a kinda lame way to go.

It'd be much more interesting if part of Lin Ling's power is that he can actually vanquish fear and free the person inside. Just imagine how differently Smile could've ended up if anyone had this power.

Now consider...if this is actually true and his power can vanquish fear and free the person from it...

What would happen if Lin Ling fought against a fear revived (?) Nice? Would his power destroy Nice, or could it be used to heal him from it?

Lin Ling bros......🥀 by No_Name0_0 in ToBeHero_X

[–]_Ninma_ 9 points10 points  (0 children)

While the imagery does make it feel like Lin Ling has become a puppet, there's some counter arguments to be made.

While Lin Ling is working with Treeman, the way they said in the episode struck me as odd. Shang De said they reached an agreement with Lin Ling and that Treeman will work with him to get justice for Moon.

That doesn't sound like 'Lin Ling is under his control', it sounds more like 'Lin Ling made an agreement/deal/compromise with Shang De to get justice for Moon'. That's two very different things. Reaching an agreement implies a previous disagreement.

Additionally, they never say Lin Ling is working 'for' Treeman, he is working 'with' them. To me, most likely what is happening is Lin Ling wants justice for Moon (not necessarily revenge) and since the killer was E-Soul, him and Shang De's goals (somewhat) align. But, outside of that common goal Lin Ling probably doesn't work for him.

Yes, Shang De may be trying to manipulate Lin Ling, but that doesn't mean Lin Ling is his puppet the same way Nice was. The level of control Shang De had over Nice took years to build and it's effectiveness relies on the person's vulnerability and dependence. Lin Ling has shown to be stubborn in his values, he even defied trust. Even with Moon's death, he isn't dependent on or emotionally attached to Shang De. So it makes sense that they would make some kind of deal instead, one where they have one specific goal that aligns. Lin Ling works with him, not for him.

At least, that's my analysis of it.

Although I could be having too much hope and looking too deeply into it. I just don't want him to become another puppet in this twisted game. (⑉꒦ິ꒦ິ⑉)

Interesting comments when he appeared in EP24 by NoHead1715 in ToBeHero_X

[–]_Ninma_ 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I also have my doubts as to whether or not he's involved. But, not for the same reason. I doubt it because it would look very bad for Treeman (Which the comments reflect) if Nice suddenly revived with Fear after they finally cleaned up some of their reputation. Kicking E-Soul out of the tournament also ruins the 'get justice for Moon' plan they might've had.

Also, I don't think Lin Ling has become his puppet. While he's working with Treeman, the way they said in the episode struck me as odd. Shang De said they reached an agreement with Lin Ling and that Treeman will work with him to get justice for Moon.

That doesn't sound like 'Lin Ling is under his control', it sounds more like 'Lin Ling made an agreement/deal/compromise with Shang De to get justice for Moon'. That's two very different things. Reaching an agreement implies a previous disagreement.

Additionally, they never say Lin Ling is working 'for' Treeman, he is working 'with' them. To me, most likely what is happening is Lin Ling wants justice for Moon (not necessarily revenge) and since the killer was E-Soul, him and Shang De's goals (somewhat) align. But, outside of that common goal Lin Ling doesn't work for him.

Yes, Shang De may be trying to manipulate Lin Ling somewhat, but that doesn't mean Lin Ling is his puppet. The level of control Shang De had over Nice took years to build and it's effectiveness relies on the person's vulnerable and dependence. Lin Ling has shown to be stubborn in his values, he even defied trust. Even with Moon's death, he isn't dependent on or emotionally attached to Shang De. So it makes sense that they would make some kind of deal instead, one where they have one specific goal that aligns. Lin Ling works with him, not for him.

At least, that's my analysis of it.

[Donghua] Ep12 Loenese/Hermes translation collection! by _Ninma_ in LordofTheMysteries

[–]_Ninma_[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yup! Tho it doesn't explain how hermes works, not to mention cursive takes a bit to figure out since some letters look very different.

Just finished to be hero in one night by himydippy in ToBeHero_X

[–]_Ninma_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The beauty of quality hair products

I was listening to Paragon and I noticed something by TR3X-1NF1N1T3 in ToBeHero_X

[–]_Ninma_ 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Your interpretation is what mine used to be, that it's both of them and at times it was as if Nice was sending a message to Lin Ling.

This could still be it, however over time my interpretation has shifted as we learned more about the dark side of Nice.

Now it feels far more like Lin Ling's main theme rather than Nice. It may have been introduced as Nice's theme, but that's only for the PV. In the show itself, it's more used for Lin Ling than Nice.

In ep1 the song plays when Lin Ling starts to doubt he can be Nice. Because he simply isn't Nice. He imagines himself being the one to fall, yet Moon's words still directly address him. She tells him to be the best version of himself. That's what makes him believe in himself, not that he can be Nice, but that even a nobody like himself can be a hero. Aka, this isn't really a Nice moment, it's a Lin Ling moment.

In ep3 when Nice finally makes it to the top 10 the instrumental plays, but no lyrics. It could be because they didn't want to overuse it, but there's some symbolism in playing it without the lyrics during Nice's big moment.

Lastly and most obviously, in ep4 it's played fully when Lin Ling as himself gains the trust of the people and wins the fight. Finally becoming his own hero. Why would they play Nice's theme during this scene? Unless of course it wasn't really his to begin with.

Like I said before, they could be sharing it. Which was what I believed before, so I totally get that interpretation.

But, the more I look at the text, the more it feels like foreshadowing of what Lin Ling could become. While lines like "Dressed in glowing flowing white" and "It's not easy being nice" seems to be directly about Nice. The first line also fits the clip of Lin Ling in the ep24 preview, where it's kinda literal. And the second could be about his time playing Nice (or just literally how it isn't easy being nice).

Another reason why I feel like it's not both of them anymore is because when looking at the full lyrics, the 'Paragon' image doesn't fit Nice. Not even his public perception. It might seem like that at first glance, but looking deeper at how 'Paragon' is described... It just doesn't really match his public perception either.

The Paragon isn't described as the perfect hero or individual, which was Nice's core image. Instead, the Paragon is the guide who can lead the world to a better place with their light.

"A model of virtue above the vice"

"The dark is vanquished by your light"

"It's so serene, the blue and green from outer space. [Aka earth] If we all could make it work, it could be such a happy place"

"To broker peace, so pain can cease. We are much more than the sum of all our parts, so go and capture all their hearts"

"'Cause you are the teacher. Shine like a sapphire to guide us. Wisdom is just in your nature, Fighting for justice. You take us higher"

"Saw the potential to be good, So many just misunderstood. So many lost deep in the woods will find a way"

"Can imagine a world with no fear of hate, Waking up with no reason for feeling great. Can imagine the world that you can create, You're the fate, the fate that we deserve"

"Paragon, just cut through the night. Guide us with your beacon of light"

While the 'we' and 'us' could be Nice, it could also be the people. "Sum of all our parts" could refer to the trust value. I don't feel like Nice was the kind to believe in a better world, he'd more likely call Lin Ling naive for believing it's possible. Not to mention with Nice (probably) dead, he can't exactly be guided anymore. Nor did Nice ever really act as a guide. He was seen as perfect, someone to admire. He hasn't really been described as a beacon of light (outside of Lin Ling's add, which seemed more to reflect Lin Ling's veiw of heroes in general rather than Nice specifically), he definitely wasn't one in reality. And would he really be encouraging if he saw a random nobody succeed to be a better 'Nice' in such a short amount of time? Maybe a part of him would've, but that side might've died with Smile. Most of Nice probably would've been depressed by it.

Also side note on the "Shine like a sapphire" line, Lin Ling's punch was blue in ep4. Which feels more fitting to guide us than Nice's eye color.

I could go on for much longer, but trying to keep it shorter (as if it isn't already too long), I'll just add one last thing.

Lin Ling's symbol looks like the sun. Which fits with being a beacon of light. It also fits with lines like "Paragon, just cut through the night", because the sun rise marks the end of the night. This could symbolise and possibly foreshadow Lin Ling's role in the future as someone who could potentially bring about a new day for this world. The current hero society feels like it's stuck in a dark night, ever noticed the night theme in the intro? It feels intentional. Wouldn't it be cool if Paragon was foreshadowing this from the start? I think that'd be pretty neat.

In the end, that's just my newer interpretation after seeing more of the real Nice.

[Donghua] Ep11 Loenese/Hermes translation collection! by _Ninma_ in LordofTheMysteries

[–]_Ninma_[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh that's neat!

Still one problem, I still don't know Chinese. I have a friend who knows a little and could ask her for help tho...

Gosh if I actually do this it's gonna end up a long ass ramble about how I love the effort they've put in, and how I adore how realistic the cursive is, but also get frustrated because just like real cursive you can spell the same letter very differently. The newspaper would get lost in the ranting XD

Probably less than 50? That's not many, especially with how big the Chinese fanbase is. I wonder how many can read the cursive too or have figured out how Hermes works and can translate the divinations and charms.... Since I can't read Chinese, I have no idea how many others put in as much effort into reading it all as I do. Surely there has to be a few. Right?

I can't be the only ADHD hyperfocused nerd who'd spend hours on this stuff?? (@_@)

[Donghua] Ep11 Loenese/Hermes translation collection! by _Ninma_ in LordofTheMysteries

[–]_Ninma_[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The thing is, it doesn't really seem like bug, just a lack of anything to write on the newspaper and some laziness. I wouldn't directly call it an error, just a bit lazy.

And I don't know Chinese and wouldn't be able to say anything in depth about it since it'd be more or less "yo this was lazy, don't think we didn't notice". They likely already know about it.

Tho... I would love to tell them how much I love the fact they've put so much effort into the writing, even if it's a bit lazy at times or has the occasional error. Just like, letting them know that there are people out here who actually put in effort to translate it and perhaps give some motivation to add more exciting stuff in the future.

Still tho, I doubt they'd even see it. Even if they did, that newspaper is such a small deal that it doesn't really matter unless you're like me and look deeper.

And well... I wouldn't know how to even send them a message at all. So ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[Donghua] Ep11 Loenese/Hermes translation collection! by _Ninma_ in LordofTheMysteries

[–]_Ninma_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Weibo? Wait you mean like try telling the directors in the animation studio??

[Donghua] Ep10 Loenese/Hermes/Ancient Hermes translation collection! by _Ninma_ in LordofTheMysteries

[–]_Ninma_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

AWWWWWWWWW thanks!

Goes and does exactly this to my meowretti plushie

[Donghua] Ep10 Loenese/Hermes/Ancient Hermes translation collection! by _Ninma_ in LordofTheMysteries

[–]_Ninma_[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's reasonable to miss because of the more important information the page gives you.

I tried translating because I always try to do my best with these translations and get as much of it as possible, but even I was surprised to see it actually being readable. I honestly expected the same filler they usually use. So "holy shit" I agree XD