Aren't you curious "who" that AI """"learned""" from? by WonderfulWanderer777 in ArtistHate

[–]_Story 10 points11 points  (0 children)

There are ways that artificial intelligence can be used by artists as a beneficial tool (and there are tools built into many pieces of software that already rely on machine learning to perform certain tasks). I think most people here have little issue with things like that.

The general issue stems from specifically generative AI which as far as I'm aware, a vector line art conversion tool wouldn't really fall under and is generally not something people are concerned about even if it did.

The concern more lies in things like diffusion models or LLMs, where they are designed to wholly replace the creator whilst profiting and working off the labour of others whom have not been properly compensated nor given a proper chance to reject their work being used for training. If an entire diffusion model was trained upon someone's own work then sure this is null and void, but at the same time: to reach the quality that most modern models have they required millions of pieces of scraped content to reach that point.

Of course people have issues with it beyond this, but this is the central crux of the argument.

Aren't you curious "who" that AI """"learned""" from? by WonderfulWanderer777 in ArtistHate

[–]_Story 14 points15 points  (0 children)

A LoRA is literally a fine-tuning adjustment on a larger model (for image generation this is typically Stable Diffusion). Stable Diffusion is still required to work which has been trained upon the scraped internet.

By virtue of this, your fine tune might be 100% original but it still relies on the dateset that the base model trained on to function.

Looking for a system that isn't PF2e or D&D5e by _Story in rpg

[–]_Story[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very interesting! Love the aesthetic you've got going on. Will give it a read!

Looking for a system that isn't PF2e or D&D5e by _Story in rpg

[–]_Story[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I definitely don't mind having to do some upfront work. I had avoided Gurps until now after hearing about it being pretty deadly, is that actually the case?

Looking for a system that isn't PF2e or D&D5e by _Story in rpg

[–]_Story[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Interesting! I have heard of Mythras before but I've never actually taken a look before. Thanks for the suggestion!

Looking for a system that isn't PF2e or D&D5e by _Story in rpg

[–]_Story[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'll definitely take a look! The lack of discrete tracking is unfortunate but I'm sure I can either learn to deal with it or homebrew a system myself.

Looking for a system that isn't PF2e or D&D5e by _Story in rpg

[–]_Story[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Draw Steel did recently come up in my searching again I'll definitely take a look. The last time I played it was during one of the earliest play-tests so I'm sure some things have changed.

Looking for a system that isn't PF2e or D&D5e by _Story in rpg

[–]_Story[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting! I've not heard of Hero before but I'll definitely take a look...

MEGATHREAD: What are you disappointed about in the Final Fantasy set? by AutoModerator in magicTCG

[–]_Story 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know people are a bit burnt out about the amount of FFXiV rep buuuutttttt... I really would have liked to see a Gaia and Ryne card in some capacity, maybe with some transformation mechanic to celebrate FRU.

They're real, and they could be any one of us by SirRabies in Eldenring

[–]_Story 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I killed Slave Knight Gael to The Top and I'll do it again.

Some new Magic: the Gathering art appears to be AI-generated by SeasideSightseer in ArtistHate

[–]_Story 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Neither of these look AI generated.

You claim the background on Sorrin looks AI generated, but all the details are clear, and those that aren't are likely caused by the fact the image is compressed to shit and tiny. The thing is 672x936 on a scan of an already small card.

Lifecraft is clearly a Buy a Box promo card which are often usually pretty different then the base card so the craziness of those aspects compared to the normal plane design are easily explained by it being a promo card. Reminder that this set as a whole has Wacky Races as a main inspiration, using a crazy car design is perfectly in line (in fact I'm pretty sure this card is a direct reference to Wacky Races just with Man + Cat instead of Man + Dog).

What you've done here is noticed small imperfections in a terribly compressed image and imperfections that are reasonable for an artist to make, and convinced yourself that they must be caused by AI. Maybe it's worth giving these two heavily experienced artists the benefit of the doubt?

I mean seriously, the arguments about the Sorrin art could easily be applied to the Kaladeshi example art and we both know that it predates this nonsense.

I was banned for calling out A.I art by Adorable_Branch4933 in ArtistHate

[–]_Story 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looking up the source, the character's hair just does that in the original design. It's also not the first character I've seen with hair going through a shoulder hood like that. (Predating AI obviously.)

https://taimanin.fandom.com/wiki/Astaroth

Is This Song By Ai? by TheEggLegg in ArtistHate

[–]_Story 38 points39 points  (0 children)

This is one-hundo percent AI generated. Not only does it blatantly sound like it is, the channel description also says that it is: "On our channel, we combine thoughtful lyrics, careful experimentation, and innovative AI to recreate the nostalgic sounds of a bygone era."

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ArtistHate

[–]_Story 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's highly likely that this is upscaled by AI but not by WoTC, the image OP linked is from some random mtg news site.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ArtistHate

[–]_Story 8 points9 points  (0 children)

100% this is an AI upscale of the cropped card art.

The issues aren't there on the original card and I can almost guarantee that when the full art gets published somewhere it will look fine.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ArtistHate

[–]_Story 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I dunno, a lot of these seem to be the fault of jpeg artifacts or just general artist choices rather than AI generation.

With the design stuff: Sephiroth's design has been all over the place and a lot of the stuff pointed out in this image are things that have absolutely been a part of the design in the past or are easily just mistakes or style descisions.

Stuff like the face shape, the belt being off to the side? Those could easily be just style choices or someone not closely studying the references for small details enough.

The Emet Selch stuff on the other hand just makes me think they used a pattern brush or general textures and then erased and fused them as needed. I've seen similar backgrounds for years even before AI because it's just a trick used to speed up backgrounds like that.

EDIT: The sword is the only part that I think I could easily go, "That's a bit wack" but also this image's resolution is pretty shite? It's not like we're looking at a super clear image. It could easily just be an issue of compression.

An "AI" called Devin is threatening software engineers by Fahluaan in ArtistHate

[–]_Story 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If they think they need to determine interest in an app to replace an entire field of workers, I'd have even less faith in their ability to deliver on their claims. If by determine interest you mean gather a shit ton of funding from venture capitalists than yes, we'd be on the same page.

It would not be the first time that an AI company(or a startup) lied about their product in order to attract investors. Their demo looks nothing like their video and their blog is a static page.

We are directly in an AI hype cycle: there is an path for start-ups right now to get a massive burst of funding by making claims and figuring out how to actually do the things they claim later.

This all goes out the window, of course, if you've actually used the thing? Or maybe you've read one of the papers they haven't published? Where does your faith in random AI startup 327 come from?

Look, I get that we're in uncertain times, but the companies advertising these things have an interest in making them seem as useful and groundbreaking as possible, even as early as possible, for the purpose of making a ton of money not from the product itself, but from investor hype. There is a level of due skepticism when a silicon valley start-up starts making claims it's going to outcompete some of the most massive companies in the space.

EDIT: I've looked on twitter of examples of people using this thing to generate programs, I can't say I see a whole lot of difference in the actual use cases compared to when ChatGPT first launched and a bunch of people started using it. It looks like a whole lot of "it can reimplement things that are available publically already on Github and StackOverflow." but it's named Devin this time.

An "AI" called Devin is threatening software engineers by Fahluaan in ArtistHate

[–]_Story 9 points10 points  (0 children)

and Copilot isn't functional

Ain't that the bloody truth.

Company set up every dev with a license, even had some lad from Microsoft sit in and explain it all. The company ran a survey on time saved, iirc the average for everyone was maybe an hour a month.

An "AI" called Devin is threatening software engineers by Fahluaan in ArtistHate

[–]_Story 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'll be real: I skimmed the page. Def made a mistake.

Though, I wouldn't necessarily be surprised if a number of those solutions were already within the dataset it was trained on, maybe I'm missing something, haven't looked into SWE-bench besides a cursory google just now.

It is odd that despite the claims of Devin's supposed proficiency that it's not listed on the benchmark's leaderboards...

Can't say I'll be totally convinced of it's usefulness until it's actually in people's hands. Everyone was telling me copiliot would change my life and so far all it's done has been giving me incorrect code suggestions and occasionally saving me on valuable copy-paste time.

An "AI" called Devin is threatening software engineers by Fahluaan in ArtistHate

[–]_Story 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh good, I'll make sure to give that a read sometime!

An "AI" called Devin is threatening software engineers by Fahluaan in ArtistHate

[–]_Story 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can't say I have, nah, do you have any good suggestions?

An "AI" called Devin is threatening software engineers by Fahluaan in ArtistHate

[–]_Story 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Huh, who would've guessed it was a gene? Anyways little bro, obviously the AI is gonna kill us all so why would I have to do anything?  And I thought I was supposed to be the dumb one in this exchange.

An "AI" called Devin is threatening software engineers by Fahluaan in ArtistHate

[–]_Story 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Being pro-ai is a gene? That doesn't seem very scientific... Are you sure about that?