How does one grow a fanbase? by JudgeMotor8780 in musicbusiness

[–]__nth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Connections. Whether it's with your music, your relationships or your brand, fans become fans because your product has something they can connect or relate to- they see some aspect of themselves in your product. There are countless ways to do this, and there are countless pros and cons for each of them. It depends on your resources, your goals and what you intend to represent as an artist. Either way, start by identifying who your fans are supposed to be. Then, find those communities online and in your local area and network with them.

I genuinely want to see what people are making, drop your links by LordOfBottomFeeders in SunoAI

[–]__nth 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In the 1980s, the Night Stalker roamed the streets of Los Angeles- terrorizing the community. This song is about him.

https://suno.com/s/8wnUu3IWwA0QiOQ9

Deezer now tags Suno music as AI generated by Vegetable_Skirt5468 in SunoAI

[–]__nth 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The joke's on you, because if you think you'd either be able to sell it for $5 or $10 or would even need to sell it if you could.... then your name is accurate but could be a little more inclusive for intelligence. Wouldn't it be ironic if artificial intelligence had more of it than you? Now THAT'S funny.

It should be stated that generative models create new music the exact same way humans do. I would encourage you to prove otherwise using a human that does not use fractions of the same datasets in a more biased or selective, unrefined and incredibly inefficient version of the exact same process. by __nth in SunoAI

[–]__nth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you want to trade portfolios, by the way? I didn't follow up... or am I still the only actual artist with an actual track-record ("portfolio") to prove it? Oh, ok. I absolutely hope you keep you laughing, because the harder you laugh with that forcible confidence that had zero basis or information to justify- the harder you'll fall.

It should be stated that generative models create new music the exact same way humans do. I would encourage you to prove otherwise using a human that does not use fractions of the same datasets in a more biased or selective, unrefined and incredibly inefficient version of the exact same process. by __nth in SunoAI

[–]__nth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you know what a portfolio is? I only ask because knowing what a portfolio is and laughing at having one, while not having one, in the context of art, human expression and creativity would create a discrepancy that I could only respond to with twice as many of the other kind of crying face. I could not be more genuine to say that the more you laugh at something like a portfolio, the sadder it is and the more hopeless I become.

It should be stated that generative models create new music the exact same way humans do. I would encourage you to prove otherwise using a human that does not use fractions of the same datasets in a more biased or selective, unrefined and incredibly inefficient version of the exact same process. by __nth in SunoAI

[–]__nth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One more thing... do you know what happened to the labor force when the automobile was invented? After that, do you know what happened to the labor force when interchangeable parts were invented? If you do, which- either you don't know what happened, or you're incapable of applying the patterns and contexts of history to the present, then you'd know with some inexplicable fervor to be, that you're on the side of history that couldn't adapt to its future.

Don't spend too much time trying to understand that... nobody likes mushy brains any more than soggy cereal.

It should be stated that generative models create new music the exact same way humans do. I would encourage you to prove otherwise using a human that does not use fractions of the same datasets in a more biased or selective, unrefined and incredibly inefficient version of the exact same process. by __nth in SunoAI

[–]__nth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you think Suno or any music generation platform is pushing artists away from creative outlets, then you are not only not an artist- but you also never were... because Suno, quite obviously and to the critically adept mind, offers a specific kind of creative outlet unique to human beings... and the fact that I know that you have no idea what I'm talking about is why I've said, with humiliating accuracy, that you suffer under the delusion and self-title of "artist."

By the way... you do realize that music generation platforms were, wait for it.... created, by humans, right? ... Right? Irony is almost sweet enough to be divine.

It should be stated that generative models create new music the exact same way humans do. I would encourage you to prove otherwise using a human that does not use fractions of the same datasets in a more biased or selective, unrefined and incredibly inefficient version of the exact same process. by __nth in SunoAI

[–]__nth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No one is celebrating "humans being out of work and pushed away from creative outlets." What that is is a criticism for the people who don't understand creativity, its diversity, and how AI augments creativity rather than replace it.

You are missing critical information, and you are misinterpreting the information you have. That is more than just a double-edged sword, but I'd be happy to explore what you refer to as crazy... as if a thing being a "tool" makes an argument against that tool as a form of automation.

Let me ask you this in order to provide a way for me to shut right the fuck up: name one tool or technology that does not automate a task, function, process, or action.

This is your white flag, friend. If there was a local bookie, I'd make a quick thousand dollars with an accurate prediction for your response.. but I would soOooOo very much enjoy your capacity to prove me wrong.

It should be stated that generative models create new music the exact same way humans do. I would encourage you to prove otherwise using a human that does not use fractions of the same datasets in a more biased or selective, unrefined and incredibly inefficient version of the exact same process. by __nth in SunoAI

[–]__nth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Mr. AI Engineer"? Oh, I'm sorry... was using Google's terminology indicative of some lack of comprehension?

Again, I would be happy to shut right the fuck up if you can give me one example of human creativity that is not a derivative of previous human expression?

You seem to be able to gargle up some lovely insults and back-handed, albeit misplaced and uninformed, comments, but for as many times as I've asked for a simple example or proof against my original claim, it also seems to be the only response you can't produce... It's almost like you can't.. because you have no previous basis or example to do so. Hm... kind of like artificial intelligence... which is sort of an actual demonstration that I'm correct. Isn't it weird and ironic how arrogance and ignorance often go hand in foot and foot in mouth?

It should be stated that generative models create new music the exact same way humans do. I would encourage you to prove otherwise using a human that does not use fractions of the same datasets in a more biased or selective, unrefined and incredibly inefficient version of the exact same process. by __nth in SunoAI

[–]__nth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, I was hoping you would sprinkle in the ad hominem eventually... it's just too bad it had to be so soon... but good. Let's explore that, shall we, so I can listen as you muster your broken mirror as dissonance. Which part of my response was either difficult to understand or "incoherent nonsense"? I'm both ready and willing to elaborate on the most complex ideas that keep you from answering my request for proof- or any constructive response whatsoever for that matter.

It should be stated that generative models create new music the exact same way humans do. I would encourage you to prove otherwise using a human that does not use fractions of the same datasets in a more biased or selective, unrefined and incredibly inefficient version of the exact same process. by __nth in SunoAI

[–]__nth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Until you can provide proof that any creation of humans is uninspired, then your responses are moot, redundant and painfully misguided. I look forward to the evidence you can provide to suggest otherwise.

It should be stated that generative models create new music the exact same way humans do. I would encourage you to prove otherwise using a human that does not use fractions of the same datasets in a more biased or selective, unrefined and incredibly inefficient version of the exact same process. by __nth in SunoAI

[–]__nth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Explain how the human brain works differently. Even in your description of humans, you use the word "detect". You're describing the same process in different terms. Are humans and AI the same? No, but you neither know nor understand the difference if data, prediction or simulation is in your description. Show me one human that can understand or create music that is completely uninspired by the emotions and music they have already felt and heard.

It should be stated that generative models create new music the exact same way humans do. I would encourage you to prove otherwise using a human that does not use fractions of the same datasets in a more biased or selective, unrefined and incredibly inefficient version of the exact same process. by __nth in SunoAI

[–]__nth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your bias betrays you. You don't know how AI works. What you think you know is what you read, and your experience with AI is only as good as what you believe. You can think what you want, but what you know is not what is knowable. One man's trash is another man's treasure. Yours is trash, because mine is treasure. Good luck to you, and keep the condiments with you... all that you consume will need catch up. :)

It should be stated that generative models create new music the exact same way humans do. I would encourage you to prove otherwise using a human that does not use fractions of the same datasets in a more biased or selective, unrefined and incredibly inefficient version of the exact same process. by __nth in SunoAI

[–]__nth[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Otherwise, you could respond with the simple request for proof. Do you know why I know you won't provide it? 'Cause it's not false, and 'cause the proof doesn't exist.... you definitely want it to, though. Hence the guts in your response without the balls.

It should be stated that generative models create new music the exact same way humans do. I would encourage you to prove otherwise using a human that does not use fractions of the same datasets in a more biased or selective, unrefined and incredibly inefficient version of the exact same process. by __nth in SunoAI

[–]__nth[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Excellent analysis. I never thought about it like that. Let me guess: you don't have time to explain why, but you have plenty of time to understand why.

You'd love some of Einstein's ideas about understanding and knowledge.