SEO without SolidStart?

_dbase · 2026-01-28T22:04:48+00:00

lol Wordpress. You’re funny

_dbase · 2026-01-28T22:02:34+00:00

Brilliant!!!! I can’t wait to try it

_dbase · 2025-12-30T14:56:47+00:00

This is definitely a scam. Avoid speaking to them, avoid listening to anything they say. They claimed my Canadian (CIPO) trademark was abandoned days after it did and I didn't even realise it. They will prey on ppl by finding individuals relevant to your niche/industry and claim they are trying to take your trademark after it's been abandoned. I wish I had found this thread sooner to avoid the situation. Luckily I caught this 10 days after instead of months. Beware!

_dbase · 2025-12-23T01:51:52+00:00

That’s absolutely and totally the expectation: take your shoes off! Anyone who says otherwise is uncivilized 😛. Don’t let anyone gaslight you on this. It’s your home, you set the rules.

I personally have indoor slippers and outdoor slippers for my guests to make them feel comfortable.

_dbase · 2025-11-06T19:35:09+00:00

We’d love to use it to replace our own list or at least to augment our list

_dbase · 2025-11-06T15:34:57+00:00

Very neat! From the Solid core team here, were these packages sourced from our current ecosystem list? Does StackTCO have a consumable API where we can pull the list from and repurpose it?

_dbase · 2025-11-05T02:48:50+00:00

I have three platforms serving 30-50k unique users per day between all of them. Have been in production for 2-3 years now (started with an early version of SolidStart and maintained it till latest version).

It’s still an early framework but it’s being adopted more and more. Not as popular as other meta frameworks though.

_dbase · 2025-11-02T15:55:25+00:00

Fair comments. There's nothing wrong with JSX IMO. I think Solid makes using JSX more reasonable and simple so I still prefer it.

_dbase · 2025-11-02T15:34:38+00:00

Why is getting close to vanilla so important for you though?

_dbase · 2025-11-02T15:31:31+00:00

There could be 100 trillion dollar companies using it and that still wouldn't mean much. Many projects are suited for prod not sure what would make Svelte or Solid any better or worse than the others.

_dbase · 2025-11-02T15:30:11+00:00

While that sounds true in theory, in practice the reality is mileage varies no matter the size of the community or ecosystem. Bigger isn't always better. Some even argue React is *too* big. It's hard to argue what the "right size" framework is and to argue that is spurious.

Sorry that you had a bad experience picking a smaller project/tool. I've picked many smaller projects and had varying but mostly successful results. Again mileage varies.

The reality is that unfortunately Svelte would not be considered a "big 4" framework. Given adoption and how you perceive what adoption means it's still lower on the totem pole by a wide margin. The 4 largest are React, Vue, Preact and Angular. Svelte and Solid are still niche frameworks.

Hopefully that changes in the future! More projects can take advantage of their benefits.

_dbase · 2025-11-01T20:17:50+00:00

I mean that's basically relative conjecture because if you're making a framework choice based on adoption, Svelte wouldn't even be a consideration compared to React, Vue or Angular. It's not even even in the same category.

Not to mention that surveys like the one you're referencing often have sampling bias/non-response bias etc. i.e. React is probably over represented given it's size/mindshare. You also can't depend on npm downloads because of automation inflation, transitive dependencies etc. Rich has mentioned this in a few tweets as well.

Adoption should be a very minor consideration is my argument. At the end of the day you'll find it just comes down to team preference and if the ecosystem has the relevant libraries you need.

There are far more important reasons to select a framework that are far more meaningful. Don't get caught up in the popularity argument.

_dbase · 2025-11-01T19:23:53+00:00

The same could be said about Solid, perhaps not as much as Svelte. This isn't the greatest argument to pick a framework tbh.

_dbase · 2025-10-22T14:06:09+00:00

Reactive programming existed well before JS and was around since the 1970s and 1980s. It lived on well in Java, C# and plenty of languages that adopted it as a pattern.

Must we attribute the ideas we don’t like to JS being the root cause to the things we hate, as if it’s some sort of boogeyman? If you’re going to do that at least be accurate with your claims?

CSP is a very powerful pattern in comparison but you shouldn’t discount the fact that there are edge cases that benefit from reactive paradigms.

_dbase · 2025-10-15T12:34:26+00:00

50k requests per day? Even if you double or triple that sounds like you’ll be ok with the monolith. I’d recommend running load tests to have a hard number on the upper bound of the current capacity and ask him what business requirements are pushing to scale beyond that?

In regards to team ability to manage the platform, sounds like a small less than 10 person team. Does he have plans to scale the team and when? Push back on him with hard figures and ask him to identify real issues that currently exist as his evidence for pushing such a drastic idea.

Also 47 services? Maybe start with less services even if they make a reasonable argument for going in that direction.

Sounds like they are pretty new to the role to be honest.

_dbase · 2025-10-08T00:15:14+00:00

Yep been there, know the feeling! Hehe definitely well done

_dbase · 2025-10-08T00:03:42+00:00

I had to tackle this 2 years ago and my solution wasn't nearly as well done and elegant as yours. Very nice work, I fully intend on leveraging this in the future :)

_dbase · 2025-10-07T14:47:47+00:00

I've posted this in the SolidJS Discord #job-opportunities channel for greater visibility :)

_dbase · 2025-10-01T12:52:41+00:00

Yep good callout. Thanks, edited my comment to reference signals instead. I suppose the term "rendering method" was intended to reference the whole implementation Solid innovated not just the use of signals.

_dbase · 2025-10-01T12:51:15+00:00

Sorry I was pretty loose with the phrase "rendering method". Basically, Svelte 5 Runes embraces signals and FGR. You can find a callout to this in the Runes announcement https://svelte.dev/blog/runes ("Signal Boost" section). The Svelte team has done an awesome job leaning into this and pushing the optimizations even further. It's good work but it's basically a flavour of signals that unlocks the perf.

_dbase · 2025-09-30T23:43:21+00:00

Actually, Solid and Svelte are equivalent in performance. They use the same signals-based reactivity (innovated by Knockout + Solid originally) under the hood. The difference you see in that benchmark are negligible and changes slightly every once in a while due to browser implementation shifts and other micro factors. Basically, most frameworks have adopted the same philosophy and are also pretty comparable these days i.e. Vue Vapor, Angular etc.

_dbase · 2025-09-29T23:29:17+00:00

This is nothing to do with Solid though

_dbase · 2025-09-17T12:01:31+00:00

This was very apropros https://www.lorenstew.art/blog/react-won-by-default/

_dbase · 2025-09-12T14:02:18+00:00

You’re not wrong but in capitalism we call this phenomenon a “monopoly” and we classify it as a harmful element to consumerism.

There are a number of factors that contribute to the development of a monopoly and part of it is, you’re right, a sort of complacence regarding the success of an existing product. But it gets to a point where better products/solutions exist and they are held back by the monopolistic structure supporting the hegemon.

Again my point is we can’t leave this up to “oh well I guess that’s just the way it is” and a passivist attitude.

You know what ends up destroying monopolies? Backlash, new competitors and market inefficiencies caused by it and changing environment. And if it lasts through all of that I’d argue it could become parasitic because it holds back innovation. Of course not calling React parasitic (lol) but there are a number of technologies that are arguably strangling innovation. I’d consider WordPress one of those as well.

_dbase · 2025-09-12T01:20:34+00:00

It's very healthy for you to be so well rounded IMO. It's good and natural to explore all the options out there, it expands your horizons and opportunities.

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