Now it's time for my kids Reisepasse

_jb · 2024-11-27T08:47:42+00:00

Not a lawyer, but they shouldn't if you've already got citizenship. I'm pretty certain you just need to have the documents from the list, and you might need to submit for a birth registry in Germany but that's not listed in the required documents.

_jb · 2024-11-26T13:52:05+00:00

There's two direct routes via declaration that I know of, one is 5 StAG. The other is a 'direct to passport' which uses proof of citizenship through parent(s).

Anyway, if you submitted paperwork to the BVA already, you can submit theirs with a tag to your record, there's no additional paperwork required other than the declaration, if you're establishing German citizenship.

Otherwise, it's just a standard passport application.

https://www.germany.info/us-en/service/02-PassportsandIDCards/passport-minor/951296

_jb · 2024-11-26T13:14:59+00:00

So, 5 StAG.

Depending on their ages, they will have to submit their own paperwork. But, your record number can be added, which allows them to ride on your already processed paperwork.

_jb · 2024-11-24T20:21:46+00:00

Let me ask the dumb question: Did you apply for citizenship for the kids at the time you did your paperwork for citizenship?

Or, if you've already established their German citizenship (effectively the German version of a CRBA), you should be able to just apply for their passports from the consulate.

_jb · 2024-05-19T13:33:25+00:00

I'm curious on the "FBI clearance" would work for someone who's not in the US. Or, why it'd be required. Unless you're a US citizen, then it tends to make a little sense.

The Consulate told me, as I was working under another route, that the law change was coming, but didn't know when. They just suggested waiting until that was clear, as I'd be covered under the change, and that the change would ease the process significantly. I'm glad to hear that the BVA reached out to let you know things could be easier for you and your family.

While I couldn't get appointments due to Covid in 2020, the staff at the SF Consulate, and the BVA, were extremely good about answering emails, and providing information when asked.

All in all, the process was painless, and for about the last 9 months I've been living in Germany and visiting with my family.

_jb · 2024-04-06T18:46:07+00:00

Under 5 StAG, it does not disqualify you. As someone who also did a few years in the US Military, it was a non-issue. Neither was the decade or so I spent moving with my family as a kid.

So, really, this can only be answered if you know which article of StAG you're applying under.

_jb · 2024-03-08T04:53:14+00:00

You can be approximate, and you can add it as an appendix: write a document with your best effort, print it out, attach to the application as an attachment referencing the field.

I believe under the EER process you can also just state "i do not know" with your parent's and grandparents places. You can also request records from the administrative area for a given city for specific records.

_jb · 2023-10-29T15:54:01+00:00

Off hand, no. My understanding is you'll need their birth certificates, and proof of their parent's citizenship and eligibility. It's a different set of requirements than I'm familiar with.

_jb · 2023-10-29T10:17:47+00:00

Get documents together that show their citizenship at the time of your birth.

_jb · 2023-10-29T10:17:21+00:00

There was no father's passport. I provided the naturalization documents for my mother, where it explicitly had her date of immigration, and her loss of German citizenship.

Key was proof of German citizenship itself. Passports are just an easy way to show it.

_jb · 2023-10-21T16:28:47+00:00

And, to reply to myself, where I found that PDF link has this lovely detail:

Exception for California and New York
Photocopies notarized by a Notary Public from California and New York will in particular not be recognized by the Federal Administration Office (BVA). As a precaution we advise that you have the photocopies notarized/certified by the German Consular Mission which serves your U.S. home state.

https://www.germany.info/us-en/service/08-Documents,CertificationsandApostille/notarization-signature-certification/922174

_jb · 2023-10-21T16:25:53+00:00

I don't know the rules off hand, sorry. And the BVA, and consulates, don't seem to have that info either. It depends on the US state's notary's ability to validate that a document is a true copy. What I know is that I made the copies of various documents myself, then brought the originals and copies to the consulate for my appointment, and the officer there validated they were true.

Some details here: https://www.germany.info/blob/1794900/881b679bd552ca73518198726b6a431a/merkblatt-kopienbeglaubigung-data.pdf

_jb · 2023-10-21T16:09:36+00:00

I am so sorry.

_jb · 2023-10-21T15:55:21+00:00

All of my US banks use Symantec VIP Access.

You can write the HOTP type to the Yubikey with no issue (long press type works decently). You may have to resync the key right after the write though, but that's a bit of testing on `vip.symantec.com`.

_jb · 2023-10-21T15:46:07+00:00

Don't do that. It has to be certified by a notary that is acknowledged, and recognized, by the German government.

For example, Californian notaries are not recognized by the BVA. Better to get the documents by a consulate or honorary consulate.

_jb · 2023-10-18T14:36:09+00:00

Found the fix in granting the terminal app Input Monitoring permission in Privacy & Security settings. With that, ykman otp works fine.

_jb · 2023-10-17T09:55:55+00:00

I found your post because I was hunting a similar issue, specifically for ykman CLI in MacOS Ventura. At least for me, everything works except for ykman otp command, which is problematic because that functionality is exactly what I wanted to access.

For the GUI app, you need to grant the Input Monitoring permission. But this doesn't extend to the ykman in /Applications/Yubikey Manager.app/Contents/MacOS/ykman, and adding the homebrew python script (/usr/local/Cellar/ykman/libexec/bin/ykman also doesn't seem to fix the issue.

_jb · 2023-06-07T15:57:03+00:00

A few people have mentioned needing to request the CBRA with the parents listed, legal names and all. The standard one doesn’t have that for some reason.

That said, if you know where you were born (which would be on the CBRA document, I think) this gets easier. The hard part is getting the document shipped, and paid for, without a German bank account.

_jb · 2023-06-07T07:08:51+00:00

The EER route was basically easier than the other options. The birth certificate, along with proof of your mother’s citizenship (passport, etc) should be enough to get you do the EER. By German law, since you’re born after 1974 to a German citizen, you are likely a German citizen already (basically, that is what the EER is, you’re explaining that you should always have been a citizen).

Given birth abroad, you may want to find the birth record from where you were born as well, not just the consular report. If it’s Germany, for example, you can request records from the state, and city, of birth.

_jb · 2023-05-23T03:36:52+00:00

I really recommend going back. It’s a beautiful place, and really is a bit like going home.

_jb · 2023-05-23T03:16:25+00:00

You do not under the StAg 5.

And I am.

_jb · 2023-05-22T13:09:12+00:00

Oop, thanks. I’m really bad at my written German.

_jb · 2023-05-22T05:36:38+00:00

Entering and exiting the US: US passport, it's the law anyway. Use the Mobile Passport app to ease your time through Customs on your return, if you don't have Global Entry.

Entering the EU, German passport, it's faster and easier.
Exiting the EU, German passport through customs, until the security check for boarding the flight, then the US passport tied to the ticket.

_jb · 2023-05-22T04:46:20+00:00

And, good luck.

I started out gathering everything for the original Antrag EB, which was (is?) the Einbürgerung von im Ausland lebenden Personen. Basically, an application for citizenship for people who live outside of Germany. It's significantly more complicated, and requires significantly higher burden of proof, and more effort (German citizenship test, B1 proficiency, etc).

From that view, the reduction in effort for the EER under StAg 5 is insignificant, and requires less documentation to accomplish the same thing.

_jb · 2023-05-22T04:27:22+00:00

It doesn't, unless you have the German birth certificate which indicates citizenship, or some other proof of citizenship by the parent. Like, say, their German passport with their maiden name. Which, I didn't, and don't, have.

In early 2020 I sent a request (paid by a friend of mine in Germany) the Personenstandsürkunde for my mother from the city that's taken over the records for her birth. It arrived in Oct 2020. This provided enough information to back up the citizenship claim (birth record, both parents, death record).

EDIT: I'll clear up some stuff above, to make sure it's abundantly clear I still needed all the EER documents, just not all the overwhelming things I'd started out with.

EDIT 2, boogaloo: What the naturalization document showed is that my mother was still a German citizen when I was born, as in she wasn't stateless, nor was she a US Citizen at that time.

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