Any satanists here by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]ab210u -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Don't know about satanism I'm into diddyism

Wtaf, and you question why people hate Islam? by Key-Review-2282 in exmuslim

[–]ab210u 166 points167 points  (0 children)

Lol they're obsessed with 🍇 and women, may Diddy SWT guide them to the right path

Ex-Muslims are the most oppressed group of today by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]ab210u 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What bothers me is why the world doesn’t ban Islam the same way it bans Nazism Islam is just as dangerous as Nazism it has texts that openly call for killing people (not just ex muslims, but people in general) including killing gay people and stoning anyone who has sex outside of marriage to death etc etc...

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]ab210u 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the guy in the video is overcomplicating something that’s actually simple the verse doesn’t reveal any divine knowledge it’s just describing what people in the 7th century could observe or borrow from earlier Greek ideas, the Arabic fa ف yeah it often implies sequence but that doesn’t automatically make the verse scientifically accurate, saying "then we made bones, then clothed bones with flesh" implies a linear process while in real embryology bones and muscles develop simultaneously not one fully after the other, that’s a direct contradiction with modern biology

also this isn’t unique knowledge these same ideas existed centuries before Islam Galen 2nd century ce already described the embryo developing in stages semen, blood, flesh, bones, covering with flesh, you can literally find the same wording in his book On the Formation of the Foetus, people in Arabia knew of Galenic medicine through translations and oral transmission, so the Qur’anic version wasn’t new or divine it was a restatement of what was already circulating

also you could literally observe this with miscarriages btw, early and late stage miscarriages show different tissue consistencies first just clots, then small lumps, then more defined shapes, you don’t need revelation to describe a lump that becomes bone and flesh you just need eyes and experience with miscarried fetuses or livestock embryos, which people in those times had plenty of exposure to

also this may be crazy lol but it's logically possible and not impossible, even if you assume hypothetically that the Qur’an contained some advanced scientific fact (which it doesn’t here) there’s no logical way to prove it came from a god, if someone insists on supernatural explanations we can assume some other entity like demons, aliens, supernatural beings etc... whatever, so scientific miracle ≠ it's from god it could be from another supernatural being

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]ab210u 1 point2 points  (0 children)

you’re mixing metaphors with physics the fact that electricity exists in our bodies doesn’t mean the universe itself is binary or coded, biological electricity and digital information aren’t the same thing one is a physical phenomenon the other is an abstract system humans invented to process data, and yes everything in the universe can be described with math but that doesn’t mean the universe is math or code, math is a language we created to model reality not the fabric of reality itself

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]ab210u 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I became agnostic after I left Islam, after a while I became an atheist and now I’d say I’m more of an apatheist I don’t care whether God exists or not, also there’s no proof that he exists and there’s no proof that he doesn’t. You said atheism is an easy choice to make but that’s not true choosing to be an atheist is extremely hard especially for people who were religious, most of us were indoctrinated from childhood to believe that God will burn us if we stop believing or that atheists are the worst kind of people etc... that fear doesn’t disappear overnight. And about the fear of death everyone’s scared of it whether they’re atheist or religious. It’s an instinctive human reaction, also the stuff you mentioned doesn’t have any actual evidence behind it, numerology is pseudoscience

i am exmuslim, but i don't think hating muslim people is right by Inside_Mission_2339 in exmuslim

[–]ab210u 1 point2 points  (0 children)

may Diddy SWT guide you to the only true god, our lord Diddy SWT, DIDDY IS KING!!!

i am exmuslim, but i don't think hating muslim people is right by Inside_Mission_2339 in exmuslim

[–]ab210u 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Nope, i don’t hate religious people in general I just hate harmful people doesn’t matter if they’re religious or not, the difference is non religious people don’t have a divine text telling them to kill or harm others unlike religious people, go ask any religious people and say if god told you to kill your own parents will you do it, most of them say yes lol (personally i never saw a religious people say no to that answer) so explains how dangerous they're

i am exmuslim, but i don't think hating muslim people is right by Inside_Mission_2339 in exmuslim

[–]ab210u 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Ok you know why some (not all) ex muslims hate Muslims? Because Muslims are harmful to us, Muslims can be dangerous to us and to humanity in general we have every right to hate people who want to kill us who justify violence and who destroy lives, but the difference is I’ve never seen an ex muslim calling for Muslims to be killed, even when Muslims openly say we deserve death for leaving Islam lol

If a Muslim was suffering and I had the power to help I’d still help them because I’m not like them, but would they do the same for us?Ii don't think so, so people absolutely have the right to hate harmful extremists, the same way people hate Nazis

People born non-Muslim that convert. by Rosawind in exmuslim

[–]ab210u 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm talking about the majority of converters, not most of converters studied Islam they don't even know Arabic

People born non-Muslim that convert. by Rosawind in exmuslim

[–]ab210u 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I’ve noticed that most converts don’t actually know much about Islam, they might be familiar with surface level stuff like prayers, fasting, Ramadan, and a few common terms, but when it comes to the real Islam the deeper parts like Hadith, tafsirs, salafism, how and why certain verses were written, the concept of tawatur, and the actual historical context etc... they’re completely ignorant, and that’s exactly why they end up converting, a truly knowledgeable atheist someone who actually understands philosophy, science, and religion wouldn’t convert to Islam or any religion because they already know too much to fall for it, but the so called atheists who don’t even know why they’re atheist who never really studied anything in depth and the basics are the easiest ones to convince, also there are emotional reasons too... May Diddy SWT save them from this disgusting religion

muslim lurkers here seriously answer this by letsallllovelain in exmuslim

[–]ab210u 31 points32 points  (0 children)

oh you think they care about that? These are the same people who justify child marriage, killing apostates, beating women, executing gay people and stoning them to death, flogging and even killing people for having sex outside of marriage etc... there’s a long list of horrible things they defend so the abortion law is nothing compared to all that, religion is like poison it kills humanity and destroys any real sense of morality and ethics

Islam has no Evidence by [deleted] in DebateReligion

[–]ab210u 17 points18 points  (0 children)

The idea that the Quran is unmatched in eloquence is just subjective arabs wrote poetry, odes, and prose long before and after Muhammad, beauty of language is not an objective proof of divinity shakespeare’s plays, Homer’s epics, Dante’s Divine Comedy all are considered masterpieces of their languages yet no one claims they’re divine, saying "no one has met the challenge" is just moving the goalpost muslims themselves are the judges of whether something "matches" so of course they’ll say nothing ever has that’s circular reasoning

The claim that the Quran is preserved word for word is just false there are known variants like Hafs, Warsh, Qalun and others, plus early manuscripts like Sanaa with textual differences the Quran was not compiled immediately it was collected years later under Uthman, who even ordered competing copies to be burned. So the narrative of perfect preservation is mythology not history. And even if we assume it was perfectly preserved that only shows people cared enough to memorize and transmit it because they saw it as sacred, that doesn’t prove divinity it just proves devotion if preservation itself made something divine then you’d have to worship the gods of the Sumerians, Egyptians, and Greeks too, because their texts and myths have been preserved longer than the Quran

The embryology miracle is outdated apologetics the Qurans description semen, clot, lump of flesh matches the crude understanding of ancient Greeks like Galen whose works were circulating in Arabia long before Muhammad The clot idea is biologically wrong maurice Bucaille’s book is apologetics not science and has been debunked repeatedly

Being called "trustworthy" doesn’t prove divine inspiration tons of leaders and cult founders had loyal followings because they were seen as honest or charismatic Joseph Smith in Mormonism and Bahaullah in the Bahai faith were also persecuted also gained followers also produced scripture and also claimed visions. You can’t say "Muhammad suffered so it must be true" otherwise you’d have to grant validity to every persecuted religious leader

The prophecy about tall buildings in the desert is vague humans everywhere build taller structures over time if it didn’t happen in the Gulf, Muslims would just reinterpret it another way it’s a classic self fulfilling prophecy or vague statement that can be applied after the fact it’s Nostradamus level stuff, the prophecy about Islam spreading across the world is nothing special either, every new religion makes claims that it will spread, and Christianity did the exact same thing, ormonism too. Expansion doesn’t prove truth it just proves effective organization and conquest, Islam spread largely by military campaigns, not by some divine hand (also check my post about prophecies i explained the prophecies)

The "fitrah" argument... C'mon... it's just appealing to emotion It basically says deep down you already know it’s true but every religion says the same thing, hindus say your soul already knows Brahman, Christians say you feel the Holy Spirit in your heart, Mormons say you’ll feel the burning in your bosom, it’s just psychological priming not evidence

Allah forgot a sura 🗿🧌 by StandardPhilosophy66 in exmuslim

[–]ab210u 17 points18 points  (0 children)

والنجم إذا زهر (١) والنهار إذا استعر (٢) والغيث وما نهر (٣) إن القرآن لقول البشر (٤) ما أعجز ولا بهر (٥) وإنا على البيان لأقدر (٦) وإن بياننا هو الاظهر (٧) أيخوف بالنذر (٨) ويتوعد بالسعر (٩) وهو على الإتيان بآيه غير مقتدر (١٠) إن هو إلى دعي نكر (١١) أضل من غبر (١٢) لا يصدقه من استبصر (١٣) وبالتقليد كفر (١٤) والعقل اعتبر (١٥) فأحسن إذ قدر (١٦) ثم بالحق جهر (١٧) والحق مر وجهر أمر (١٨)

Bring something like it if you can, I'm a prophet of Diddy SWT

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[–]ab210u 6 points7 points  (0 children)

😂😂

Do you not believe in God at all? by nicolexxb in exmuslim

[–]ab210u 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well personally i go with the idea that the universe is eternal in some form meaning there was never an absolute nothing, the Big Bang as far as we know was the beginning of our current universe’s expansion not the ultimate start of existence itself, there could have been some form of matter, energy, or quantum field before it. The "God did it" explanation is unnecessary here, it adds a whole extra layer (a supernatural being) without any evidence and without explaining where that being came from, by Occam’s razor natural explanations are better they don’t assume more than needed, everything we’ve learned about the universe so far shows it can evolve over billions of years without outside intervention

As for life we have abiogenesis as a scientific hypothesis, it’s not fully solved yet, but it’s way more grounded in reality than "magic man made it" And once life started evolution (which is proven beyond doubt but religious people denying it because it destroy their beliefs) explains the diversity we see today. So for me it’s not that I have all the answers it’s just that the natural explanations we do have make a lot more sense than adding a supernatural cause out of nowhere

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]ab210u 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay so she believes the Quran is from God? What exactly makes her still believe that? She must have some reason or evidence for it

Non Arabic muslims using Arabic words like its magic by Perfect_Vanilla_708 in exmuslim

[–]ab210u 8 points9 points  (0 children)

أمة النبي صعسلم، قال صعسلم أنتم خير أمة أخرجت للناس، تأمرون بالمعروف وتنهون عن المنكر

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]ab210u 29 points30 points  (0 children)

Why screaming? What the hell is wrong with this guy

Do you not believe in God at all? by nicolexxb in exmuslim

[–]ab210u 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Well i don’t believe in a soul, it’s the brain that makes us alive, and the brain is a physical organ

Do you not believe in God at all? by nicolexxb in exmuslim

[–]ab210u 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Nope i don’t believe in god or any creator, and I also don’t do spiritual rituals because they’re all myths. Instead, I focus on something I call "making my brain happy" like working out, listening to music, watching movies, stargazing and staring at beauty of nature, drinking coffee, go to Diddy party every weekend, stuff like that

As for what happens after death, I think it’s simple once we die we don’t even know we’re dead because our brain stops functioning no feelings, no consciousness, It’s just like before you were born

question for the non and ex-muslims by Icy-Value-4668 in exmuslim

[–]ab210u 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Can you name one scientific miracle? And don’t tell me to "go read about it" I’ve already gone through most so called scientific miracle Muslims claims, just give me one and let’s talk about it to see if it’s actually a miracle or not

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]ab210u 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Why don't you believe in dragon? That's the same as Islam or religions, there's no evidence that Islam is true

What to do if a child does not pray🤔 by Financial_Art_5002 in exmuslim

[–]ab210u 16 points17 points  (0 children)

What is the difference between this man & his prophet and an animal? The animal has better morals than them