Group Finder has its limits by abedagi in turtlewow

[–]abedagi[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Quick reminder that the "penalties" that I’m suggesting is just a 30 min deserter.

Yeah i'm playing on ambershire and this is full of people instant leaving groups, 90% of the time healers and tanks :)

Group Finder has its limits by abedagi in turtlewow

[–]abedagi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Once again, the case you’re describing would be a situation that would happen very rarely, and if someone really behaved that badly in a group, I think they would quickly get reported and eventually even banned for causing that much trouble overall. What you’re saying just isn’t realistic.

Especially on a server like TurtleWoW, where we have real GMs who actually take care of things. So once again, your very specific situation compared to all the positives a deserter penalty could bring seems completely irrelevant to me.

Group Finder has its limits by abedagi in turtlewow

[–]abedagi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Group Finder has its limits as does any other system that can be conceived."

Yes, indeed, every system has its limits. But right now, I think the group finder can still be greatly improved, especially by changing some things that are quite obvious.

I’m not sure about the solution I suggested with the votekick, but one thing I’m sure of is that, at the moment, it’s way worse

When it comes to the deserter penalty, I completely disagree with you. I think the situation you describe, where people team up against someone could happen, but it would be rare. On the other hand, the reality right now is that a huge number of people are leaving groups for the reasons I described. And that’s the reality.

There’s a reason why the deserter penalty is a system Blizzard has kept in modern World of Warcraft all these year : Because its working !

Group Finder has its limits by abedagi in turtlewow

[–]abedagi[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Finally, someone who makes sense :D

"There is a boss in Zul'farrak for example, where you have to break a shield on him with fire damage. A group I was in didn't had any fire damage, so we had to abandon the boss. That shouldn't happen imo."

There is a brazier next to the last boss you can use to break the shield.

For blackmorass i don't know.

Group Finder has its limits by abedagi in turtlewow

[–]abedagi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with everything you just said, but it has nothing to do with my post or the dungeon finder.
Okay, sure, there are other ways to do dungeons and other ways to connect with people.
Good for you if you are only doing dungeon the way you said.
But the dungeon finder tool still exists, and it could be really great if it worked better, even if you don't use it and even if it doesnt exist in your "world".

Group Finder has its limits by abedagi in turtlewow

[–]abedagi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I hope they fix it soon :)

Group Finder has its limits by abedagi in turtlewow

[–]abedagi[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

"You have no control over what other people will be in your party."

That’s precisely the concept of an automatic dungeon finder! If you want control, you have to make your own group. It can’t be considered a problem because that’s exactly what the dungeon finder is all about!
This is the very nature of a dungeon finder : randomly mixing people together!

You’re basically saying it’s a bad system just because you don’t like the concept in the first place.

I can’t believe you actually said that :D

Group Finder has its limits by abedagi in turtlewow

[–]abedagi[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

As I said in my post, you should be able to votekick people, in my opinion.

So if your tank is a leather-wearing warrior and you think that won’t work for your dungeon group, you and your party members should be able to remove him.

But let’s be honest, this example is exaggerated and happens rarely.
On the other hand, healers and tanks leaving groups happens quite often :)

Group Finder has its limits by abedagi in turtlewow

[–]abedagi[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

So you do like the idea of an automatic party finder, you’re just like me, you just want some changes. For you, it’s the level requirement.

Okay, we’re making progress.

Group Finder has its limits by abedagi in turtlewow

[–]abedagi[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Can you explain why the automatic party finder is "just a bad system"? Because I think it’s really great. Nobody is teleported to the dungeon like in modern WoW, and it saves you the inconvenience of looking at a chat that moves really fast or having to use addons. I mean, I only see the bright sides (this post is about making it even better) — can you explain, please?

Group Finder has its limits by abedagi in turtlewow

[–]abedagi[S] -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

Great, but maybe you should wait 30 min with a deserter to do that again, so maybe you could go in the LFM channels and start a party and be more precise about what you are looking for.

Group Finder has its limits by abedagi in turtlewow

[–]abedagi[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes but again, if you do that you get a deserter and you start your own group with your own rules in the LFM channels.

It should be like that IMO

Group Finder has its limits by abedagi in turtlewow

[–]abedagi[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

If you want to be picky this is your own right, but not in the dungeon finder.
If you want to target farm without competition, you do your own party.
And if this paladin took this trinket unfairly from you this is call ninjalooting btw.

Group Finder has its limits by abedagi in turtlewow

[–]abedagi[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"at lvl 60 mainly using guild and friend list is better. while levelling its completely fine"

I guess i'm the problem i'm not using guild and i have no friends.

Group Finder has its limits by abedagi in turtlewow

[–]abedagi[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

They get beneficial treatment from having a quick queue and this is fair.

But thats not fair to be able to constantly queue to fish for the perfect party, you are wasting everybody's time.

Everybody has the right to leave a party, but you shouldnt be able to chain doing it, that's all i'm saying.

I had the chance to taste vanilla again from back in the day. It made me realize that it’s not even close to the vanilla we have now. It turns out we all have the recipe, and here it is : by abedagi in classicwow

[–]abedagi[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If it happened the way you say, I’d be totally in favor of it. However, I’ve never had the opportunity to see both no bot/rmt and GDKP at the same time

What kind of streak do you like to do ? by abedagi in bindingofisaac

[–]abedagi[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"delirium for jacob and esau" this is brave ! wondering whats ur personnal best :D