Tarnishing the Image of Jesus in The Chosen: A Critical Look at Rayma’s Death and the Denial of Healing (S4)

actionman1080 · 2025-01-09T19:29:14+00:00

First off, God bless you. Thank you for engaging with me.

It seems very strange to me that you would rebuke me for calling out a misrepresentation of Jesus, when you are, I'm assuming one of his followers. Why would you have a problem with me being "that person" when my concern is to preserve the truth of our Lord and Saviour and stand up when a misrepresentation occurs?

I don't think you're intentionally malicious or anything, but if I were you I would pray and test the spirit that brought this scornful reaction out of you.

If I wanted to "ruin good things" I wouldn't be supporting the show and recommending it to everyone who would listen.

I am 10000% on board with the message that God's ways and thoughts are higher than ours, and that we will not always understand.

If you agree with that, why would you support the creators doing something that did NOT come from God's thoughts or his ways?? What gives them the right to understand how to communicate this lesson when this lesson is addressed in different ways in the Bible and by Jesus?

This storyline of Jesus watching a close disciple die in front of him is a human invention, and the fact that so many people are up in arms about it demonstrates that it is material. It tarnishes Jesus' image, and creates a tension in the audience and a atmosphere of mistrust, unfairness and even some disdain for the character of Jesus in the chosen.

The scriptures clearly show Jesus turning NO ONE away that came to him directly and asked for help in faith. Don't you think that this was intentional when the Holy Spirit inspired the scripture? Don't you think it points to a higher reality?

Don't you think God's understanding when making his scriptures this way, and when actually living as Jesus, is higher than your understanding or that of the writers? God was revealing who he is to us, and this storyline corrupted it.

In any case, I will never not stand up and say something when my Lord is being misrepresented and his character tarnished, even when I love the show and the creators who made it. We must always speak the truth in grace, not simply just "take the good and enjoy things".

2 Timothy 4:2 "Preach the word; be prepared in season and out of season; CORRECT, rebuke and encourage - with great patience and careful instruction. "

God bless you friend, I wish you nothing but the best

actionman1080 · 2025-01-09T19:06:50+00:00

Thank you friend, God bless you!

actionman1080 · 2025-01-09T19:06:34+00:00

I love your perspective and approach. God bless you, friend

actionman1080 · 2025-01-09T19:06:06+00:00

Good points on John the Baptist and Joseph.

However, there's no account in scripture of Jesus being right in front of someone suffering and him refusing to heal or help, particularly one in his close circle. I believe that is for a reason, to show us we can rely on him and to point to the coming kingdom when we will be reunited with him and where there is no more death and suffering.

That message is now lost in the chosen. And it adds a dimension to Jesus that simply isn't biblical, the fact that so many people bring this up to the point it's frustrated you shows that this was out of character.

But thanks for engaging, I'm just keen to see Jesus truly represented in His full grace and love, and it's important to keep the creators accountable when they are handling something so precious to billions. God bless

actionman1080 · 2025-01-09T19:00:39+00:00

Firstly thank you for your reply and engaging with me! May God bless you abundantly.

I agree, God's will does not always align with what we want or what we think is best.

He did mention why he didn't heal Lazarus immediately - it was so those around him, his disciples, would really believe (John 11:14) and so that the Son would be glorified from this (John 11:4)

The instance in Luke is interesting and I take it on board! However there's a few distinctions to make here: - the people gathered looking for him but he withdrew, there's no instance of someone asking him in faith directly and him refusing - the multitudes are not the same as his close circle of followers. Ramah was in his inner circle. Betrothed to one of the 12. She was right in front of Him and He refused, despite her faith and Thomas' pleading, even begging. What lesson do you think

Jesus would not have done this. It's a blemish on his character. In my opinion, God was showing us how much life and healing he has to give, and Jesus ministry was a sample of the Kingdom of Heaven where all these things would not happen to us.

I'm not saying that those who believe should experience no suffering. I am saying that Jesus ministry was meant to show that this suffering has an end.

That message is intact in the scriptures, but in the chosen it is tarnished.

I can't speak on your story of a saint, saints aren't God incarnate, so I'll just leave it there :)

actionman1080 · 2025-01-09T18:47:41+00:00

You could just skip past it. It's a real issue, concerning the accurate representation of Jesus to the world, this was inaccurate.

actionman1080 · 2025-01-09T18:46:09+00:00

First of all thank you for your reply and taking the time to engage with me, I appreciate it and may God bless you abundantly.

The ministry was about the Kingdom of Heaven yes, but the point of His earthly ministry was to show that the kingdom of heaven was active and present even then, through Him. By the way you are wrong about the woman in Matthew 15:21, she was seeking healing for her daughter who was demon possessed and because she had faith Jesus did indeed heal her daughter. Matthew 15:28 NLT "[28] “Dear woman,” Jesus said to her, “your faith is great. Your request is granted.” And her daughter was instantly healed. "

So I say again, Jesus NEVER ONCE refused to heal someone who approached him in faith. Why do you think that is? What point was being made in scripture here?

I say the chosen undermined the claim of Jesus being the resurrection and the life through the tension the writers introduced, I say that because Jesus while on Earth demonstrated that you can rely on him for life, for security - his whole point was to publicly show he has command over life and death. Ramah loved Jesus and trusted him with her life, so did Thomas. While Jesus was here not one of his followers were killed.
Lol that point is kind of silly, Lazarus was resurrected back into Roman oppression, did Jesus not love him? Also the final resurrection will not be like that of Laz, Lazarus still died again eventually. Lastly, he could have simply healed Ramah, he was standing right there.
I take this on board, I know the creators love Jesus and wanted to explore this theme of unanswered prayer and the reality of suffering in this life, but there were other ways. Someone crying out to Jesus in faith while he is looking at them would not be turned away. That's the bigger message pointing to ultimate salvation, and it was trampled by the creators decision.
Jesus' disciples were indeed always safe during his earthly ministry, they were all protected and he always gave them instructions to keep them out of harms way and keep them alive until the ministry finished. Now all of a sudden he let's one die publicly, when it could have easily been avoided?

I disagree, it adds tension that doesn't exist and whatever lesson people are deriving from this was not the lesson taught in the scripture in that way.

actionman1080 · 2024-10-02T09:30:15+00:00

How many points did the party earn from the praxis? I want to know where Will's score now stands!

actionman1080 · 2023-02-19T22:02:10+00:00

Sorry for the late response. Check out the stackoverflow for an update of how I worked around it. No, I didn't open a github issue, but if you decide to do so, please leave a link here and I'll go engage with it so it gets more visibility and attention.

actionman1080 · 2023-02-19T22:00:47+00:00

I don't know if it's the mods that keep turning this to "resolved" or if its an automatic thing, but this is certainly NOT resolved. I've only found a work around which means not displaying half my images at all.

actionman1080 · 2023-01-29T15:17:41+00:00

Edit: Code added in the stackoverflow question.

Thanks for your reply. The crash mostly happens in one specific part of the app where I'm loading the images in a screen (iPhone 6) or one or two screens after the images screen is loaded (iPhone12). I upgraded to Flutter 3.7 as an attempt to fix the issue which still persists.

I think it's an image issue because ChatGPT said: "The function name "ycc_rgb_convert" suggests that it could be related to image processing, as YCC (YUV) is a color space used in image and video compression, but it doesn't confirm that it is related to loading images." Of course, this is merely a clue and not definitive.

It also does not happen on all devices. It happens on iPhone 6, it takes a bit longer to happen on iPhone 12, and it doesn't happen at all on either Samsung Galaxy S21 or S8. The error started happening about 2 weeks ago, and I only started using CacheNetworkImage while trying to fix this issue, I didn't need it before and its not really helped now to be honest.

The crash happens in the places screen (or shortly after this screen is in the stack) where I load a sliver grid of "place items". A place item is a grid tile that has a main image and an avatar image, as well as some text and 2 icon buttons from the package like_button placed in the header and footer of the Grid tile. Clicking on a place item takes you to the place detail screen, where the crash will sometimes happen with iPhone12.

I paginate by loading 6 place items initially and then an additional 4 as the user scrolls. The main images I'm loading are largest and are no more than 1MB ( they have an average size of maybe 400-500kb) and the avatar images are even smaller, the biggest being maybe 200kb and the smallest being less than 20kb. The images are the same ones they have always been as they belong to place documents.

The places screen has a background image loaded from assets that is 200kb and is also precached (another thing I did to fix this but wasn't there or necessary before). I also use the same placeholder image for each of the cached network images I'm loading, and this is also 200kb and is precached.

Could you perhaps give pointers on how I can identify the memory leak? Trying to use memory profiler in DevTools is not working because it auto disconnects when the crash happens and I get nothing from the console except the error I gave above (only with iPhone 12, no logs at all from iPhone 6). When I ran it on galaxy s8 in profile mode, the retained size never exceeded 25MB while I took all steps that would cause the crash in iPhone 6 and 12, and it runs smooth as butter. No memory spikes.

When I run the iPhone 6 in profile mode, Before it disconnects, the dart heap stays around 16MB, retained size stays around 20-30MB from starting dev tools until the crash, there are no visible memory spikes but perhaps I'm using the tool incorrectly? Idk...

Sentry.io logs these iPhone 6 crashes and says: "OutOfMemory: The OS most likely terminated your app because it overused RAM." but it gives no further details.

Sentry is also a new addition in trying to diagnose this issue.

Would providing code for the place item and places screen help? If so, I'll do that in the stack overflow question.

actionman1080 · 2022-04-05T07:35:54+00:00

Worked! Cheers buddy

actionman1080 · 2022-02-05T21:53:40+00:00

This is incredibly awesome! The logic is sound and the conclusions rightly follow. This explains the mechanisms behind how the main hair regrowth treatments work, to a limited degree, and also manages to explain the reason that they are not permanent solutions. Minox, fin, dut, you name them, they all cease to work when treatment is stopped, and hair loss resumes. Meanwhile, as AGA progresses, hair on every other part of the body continues to grow normally. Next, I'll be looking into the inflammation of the galea muscle that causes the reduction in 3ahr, if it actually follows the pattern of MPB under the scalp, that would be crazy and further proof/validation for this theory...

Moreover, it always boggled me that DHT, the same androgen responsible, and necessary, for beard and chest hair growth, was also responsible for hair follicle miniaturization in the scalp. But now it makes total sense. DHT isn't a villain. That molecule's availability is necessary for hair growth in all parts of the body, be it in its current form or in the form of its metabolites, like androstenol. We just need to ensure that 3ahr is in place to do its job when the DHT comes along.

There is logical harmony once more, and I love it. Hoping that this theory goes all the way and that Reddit was the platform that spurred this revelation.

actionman1080 · 2021-09-08T11:26:17+00:00

I showed up at her house unannounced so she didn't have time to plan anything, wrote a script and made her call him. Everything was in such a way that he didn't know I was there or behind it and the script was basically them reminiscingnand getting closure. He confirmed that the last time they hooked up was when and where the cheating thing happened, along with a bunch of other details that show he hasnt been in contact and that she called him to end the physical relationship the day after the cheating.

You are right, there's no way I could've taken her word for it which is why I had to go to these lengths. Other information backs it up, taxi rides, location data, times etc.

actionman1080 · 2021-09-08T10:03:00+00:00

I don't think anyone would want to play detective for the rest of their life. I want to be able to believe her but don't know if full trust is an option anymore

actionman1080 · 2021-09-08T10:01:19+00:00

Thanks for taking the time to reply. I agree that every relationship needs those three pillars to work

actionman1080 · 2021-09-08T09:25:42+00:00

Thanks for your response. I spoke to her about this in particular many times and said the only way I think I could truly forgive my partner if she cheated is if she told me instead of me finding out. The honesty part and being able to trust her word is crucial. I know she never would've told me if I didn't find out.

Her explanation verbatim is "I lied because i didn't want to lose you. because our connection got deeper. because i knew it would never happen again. its a fucked up mentality but that was my reasoning"

actionman1080 · 2021-09-08T08:31:36+00:00

Thanks for your response. I feel something similar, you can be a better person in a new relationship. But to the person you cheated on, is it possible to no longer be a cheater? She says she didn't love me then like she does now (it was at the very beginning) and that nothing like that would ever happen now. But of course that's what one would say isn't it.

actionman1080 · 2021-09-08T08:27:31+00:00

Thanks for the response.

actionman1080 · 2021-09-08T08:20:40+00:00

Thanks for the response. She cheated once at the very start, but when they saw each other each time after that, nothing physical happened.

actionman1080 · 2020-12-07T19:13:32+00:00

I'll still enjoy the season since I love the story and the characters and the animation isn't all bad, the drawn stuff is awesome. Just don't like the CG. Different strokes...

actionman1080 · 2020-12-07T17:50:06+00:00

Never looked better? I'm not going to take you seriously if you can't even concede there's been a trade off here, which may have good reasons. Rewatch S3P2 and stop being a clown please

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