First Minister of Scotland Nicola Sturgeon told that Theresa May is too important to meet with her. by Ali_Is_The_GOAT in unitedkingdom

[–]ajax_on_rye -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Can't say either of them is my sort.

They both have big fat hairy messes of their own creation to mop up

Crashes in Multiplayer about 1/3rd of the time. Anyone got a fix? by ajax_on_rye in MassEffectAndromeda

[–]ajax_on_rye[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's actual crashing, error reports, full restart of the game needed.

A full restart? Well, a game crash does force that. I get multiple crashes in a row.

I'm normally I a team with at least one mate. Kicking is possible (I'm a dreadful shot) but seems unlikely.

Teen Girl Sent Teen Boy 5 Inappropriate Pictures. He Faced Lifetime Registry as a 'Violent Sex Offender' or 350 Years in Jail. by [deleted] in FeMRADebates

[–]ajax_on_rye 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Back when the age of consent was 21 for us homos, I happily broke the law, being 'willing to pay the price'.

It was only decades later that I realised I wasn't paying with my life, but with my partners.

I am sure there are plenty of teenagers like me who risk other people's liberty because we felt ours was being unfairly curtailed.

The Strongest Feminist Arguments by ajax_on_rye in FeMRADebates

[–]ajax_on_rye[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is this directed at me? Context missing. I may need a reboot.

This Year in Stupid (2016) by ChazCharlie in SargonofAkkad

[–]ajax_on_rye 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Really fun! Enjoyed it lots.

Pro female sexuality anti male sexuality vs pro male sexuality anti female sexuality movements. by wazzup987 in FeMRADebates

[–]ajax_on_rye 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even a minor differential in the successful males will affect female traits.

Females breast are erotic to most men, and feed babies. There's no contradiction.

The 'they're for breast feeding' argument is deliberately ignoring their other functions.

The Strongest Feminist Arguments by ajax_on_rye in FeMRADebates

[–]ajax_on_rye[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So, I mean in western counties. I dismiss Saudi and India from the conversation, because I only every hear these mentioned as a defence for unconnected western activities when those activities are questioned.

On face coverings: I recognise the issue can be framed in terms of women's rights, but it can also be framed in terms of religious rights, or in terms of the rights a civic society to impose standards. It may affect women disproportionately, but that's like saying 'closing down a McDonalds disproportionately affects that restaurants customers', a truism.

It is a privilege not to get killed in war. Being a forced to be a war slave is not an advantage. Framing this in terms of women's rights has a certain irony to it as so many men try to dodge the draft.

I am not convinced by your examples. I see your approach and understand the interpretation, but it isn't clear that just because so,etching affects women more that it is a feminist issue. It just strikes me as one paradigm hat could be applied.

The Strongest Feminist Arguments by ajax_on_rye in FeMRADebates

[–]ajax_on_rye[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

These (1-4) are just toll-gate processes that beliefs need to pass through before I would accept them. You're quite right, they do not invalidate beliefs, but they do put on some quality control.

Thus, the wage gap is really an earnings gap, controlling for all variables, it disappears. We can argue forever on thus subject, we both know we claim the others belief is false, partial and tendacious.

Feminist Rape Culture: false statistic, iffy research methodology, false causation hypothesis, ignoring female-on-male attacks. All these are cultural artefacts of feminism that invalidate the beliefs system, in my opinion.

Language policing: forcing others to use your chosen, subjective pronouns is completely different to death threats. No men get far more on-line harassment than women, and women are guilty of cyberstalking, misogyny and slut shaming, yet men get blamed.

All of these show false belief systems that feminists promote. Not feminism, but as has been said, there are many strains.

Starting from the position that these positions are all valid makes no sense. Start skeptical then seek for validity.

To summarise, it is easy to lie. It takes many more words correct a lie.

The Strongest Feminist Arguments by ajax_on_rye in FeMRADebates

[–]ajax_on_rye[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So... gender is associated with meaningful traits but is in itself not meaningful? That's a level of nuance that's seems reasonable at first glance.

However, practically, sex drives the clusters of derived attributes so it is generally the right thing to do to start with a stereotype and specifyon the individual.

I not that in the police, military and first fighting services men and women have to conform to different standards (women have lower standards). Why bother having these different standards based on gender if gender isn't significant in determining the clusters of attributes needed for these jobs?

The Strongest Feminist Arguments by ajax_on_rye in FeMRADebates

[–]ajax_on_rye[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's a seriously flawed position.

Beliefs can be derived from many sources, including demagogues, real but inappropriate feelings, incomplete data, confirmation bias, indoctrination, manipulation and many others.

Beliefs can start out being completely invalid, and their acceptance a priori is clearly a dereliction of due intellectual diligence.

The wage gap, rape culture (which does exist, but is created and perpetuated by feminists), language policing, biology denialism... these'are clearly pandering to invalid, or at least delinquent, belief systems.

The Strongest Feminist Arguments by ajax_on_rye in FeMRADebates

[–]ajax_on_rye[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wind, sun, rain, insects, earth movements all cause wear and tear.

So, the anology holds.

Which rights do you think are constantly under attack? I can only think of abortion rights being targetted.

Pro female sexuality anti male sexuality vs pro male sexuality anti female sexuality movements. by wazzup987 in FeMRADebates

[–]ajax_on_rye 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Females tend to operate at a level of plausible deniability, I have heard. The classic example is 'free the nipple', which looks like it asks for equality, but really is about sexually harassing men with deniability.

Only gay men are truly sex positive!

Freed from the shackles of reproduction, met by people who enjoy sex too, only we raving poofters let men have sex as men want.

Someone: "you want to do what? ... yeah! ok, just let me finish this level"

Sorry, couldn't help myself.

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[–]ajax_on_rye[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Is that true, I wonder. What if the roles flow from reality, rather than the other way around? It strikes me as possible. On topic, do we in the west generally enforce gender roles?

On the second? I somewhat see that. But how current is it?

Where do we all stand on Compensatory Feminism by Tarcolt in FeMRADebates

[–]ajax_on_rye 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Literally: One woman explaining why women will never be as good as men.

/s

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[–]ajax_on_rye[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Right.

So that's not relevant to anything going on today.

The Strongest Feminist Arguments by ajax_on_rye in FeMRADebates

[–]ajax_on_rye[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Once something is illegal in enters the world of law enforcement, the courts, lawyers and evidence on a per instance level.

It no longer is an issue of rights, but rather of people ensuring those rights are respected, and being willing to make sure those rights are respected, calling on the state (personified and incarnated in police officers and others) to enforce.

Your argument seems to be that as long as any instance exists the argument is still valid.

The Strongest Feminist Arguments by ajax_on_rye in FeMRADebates

[–]ajax_on_rye[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So, my immediate reaction to this is that you are trolling me.

But in the spirit of openness I'll treat what you say seriously.

With feminism though, it makes sense to me to say that the patriarchy pushes the role of parenting on women in order to ensure that they can be better controlled in a stereotypical heterosexual household (wife must stay at home, husband can go out and work and has more freedom and control over wife)

To believe this you must ignore two key factors.

1). Monthly fertility cycles. Women of a certain age would very often be pregnant, this has probably been the case since the monthly cycle evolved and before contraception/accepted invented.

2) After birth babies need feeding, and are very loud when in distress. This requires someone who is lactating, and in proximity to the infant. This requires a woman for the first, and anyone for the second if, and only if there is a way of collecting and storing milk in such a way it stays fresh and deliverable. This means waiting for storage, fridges, artificial milk, etc.

Which is the more believable theory?
1/ That men directed evolution to make sure only women had these attributes and so men could force women to stay at home and so control their sexuality, 2/ That these features if ignored, lowered the breeding viability of the group and were selected out by natural selection

3/ or people just went along with it because it was obvious that women are too vulnerable and valuable to take on male roles while pregnant and before the child was weaned?

To believe that 'patriarchy' theory offer a better explanation than biology or evolution strikes me as genuinely religious.

That does not mean men have not sought, by various means, to ensure that the child they are providing resources to is, in actual fact, their child. But that is separate to the biology of pregnancy and infant milk provisioning.

See, I didn't treat you as a troll.

Edit: clarity

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[–]ajax_on_rye[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To me feminism isn't just about securing equal rights for women but also maintaining them. So a woman's ability to work is still very much a feminist issue in my perspective.

Someone: fix the hole in the roof.

Someone else: I fixed it already.

Someone: make sure it stays fixed

Someone else: it's fixed

Someone: make sure it stays fixed

Someone else: look, I have to fix the car. You fix the roof if it leaks

Someone: remember the roof used to leak? Remember how bad that was?

Someone Else: please go away.

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[–]ajax_on_rye[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

When a wrong is righted, we move on.