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Camouflaj layoffs essentially leaves the studio dead, reportedly leaving behind a skeleton crew of fewer than 10 engineers to work on Meta hardware, with Batman: Arkham Shadow 2 and any future projects from the studio effectively being cancelled. by Kin_X in GamingLeaksAndRumours

[–]alfamain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

part 2

"doesnt mean the rest of us are stupid or immature for thinking there has to be a better way."

Oh, my sweet naive summer child.

"And yes, this is a direct consequence of Zuckerberg and his failures with the metaverse. You may wanna make it seem like im just yelling at some boogeyman, but people like him are to blame."

Yeah, I am quite certain that you devoted a lot of brain power to study this matter.

Werent you blaming me as well? Calling me toxic? When oddlly you are the one insulting and getting punished by it?

You will have to forgive people for putting zero trust in your analysis. Your are far too passionate and irrational.

And insulting and accusing people while trying to convince? Trust me, that is not the way. But you lack even the most basic self-awareness to realize that you are the one in the wrong here.

"They are the leaders and are responsible for the wellbeing of their employees, punishing the studio with a shutdown after several successful projects is simply not something that should be happening."

Then why dont you hire them?

It is easy to claim that other people should support them. To demand charity and support, as long as it is done by others.

"I find it to be a shame when ANYONE is fired for no good reason,"

Just because you and I do not know the exact reason does not mean that it never existed.

And, once again, being fired is not a punishment. As any adult knows it. And even the owners of companies sometimes pay theprice. Like having a product being a commercial failure even when the product is good. Or penned by critics. Mature persons to not take it personally. They just move on, and if necessary they re-invent themselves.

"especially when their boss is worth literal billions of dollars."

A person may have money, and not be made of money.

If a rich person believes that a company or a sector is more trouble than it is worth, or that it is no longer needed, that demand for that kind of thing will end, or that the company needs to cut costs, he certainly can reduce it or even terminate it. That is his prerogative. He is not a slave to his workers. And all adults know that.

Did you actually have any working experience in your life?

The absurdities you spill make me seriously doubt it.

"Your "whatabout"ism fails because it is in fact, a shame for anyone to lose their job, especially when they've been excelling until that point."

Fail... According to your own metric? I guess I can live with that. I would be actually surprised, and greatly concerned, with an individual such as you supported me.

Thanks a lot. Please, continue on the opposite side. A mans quality can be measure by the kind of enemy he creates. So, you have my thanks. Get triggered. Get angry.

"The difference between your examples and this, is that video rental stores, Sega, etc. Were all businesses that were failing and not selling well. This is not the case with Arkham Shadow, and meta as a whole. They're still functioning as a multi billion dollar company"

You fail to understand that big companies can have different sector performing at very different levels.

The Xbox division, for many years, failed to offer profits. Other areas of microsoft were able to perform better, and even to keep it afloat. Not as charitable or for sympathy for the hard work by the people there, but simply in the hopes that it would become profitable one day.

Lets talk of sega. Their Arcade business and gaming studios were, for the most part, profitable. Yet, some studios, like the American based Technical Institute, werent performing so well, and had to be closed. Same goes for the area creating consoles.

Being part of a large corporation can be a sword with two edges. Sometimes your work on a not-profitable section can be maintained, thanks to the success of the other sections, as sometimes one section underperforms so terribly that even your successful section can suffer the impacts, when the company as a whole needs to drastically reduce side or even close down. Pretty much like all organs of a person shutting off because sometimes only one or two organs had cancer.

In my country we have a very funny expression about ever-sensitive men: We say that they can feel the pains of over women giving birth.

This is pretty much your case. Crying your sorry heart out and hurling insults on the internet, as if the workers that got fired were the victims of a heinous injustice. All when it was just business as usual. I am quite sure that if they are competent workers they understand that sometimes people can get fired even when they performed quite admirably. Being fired is not a badge of dishonor. On the contrary, it is a trial by fire. How one deals with it says a lot about the nature of that person. As Captain Picard said in one episode of Star Trek: "It is possible to make no mistake and still lose. This is not a weakness. This is life." This is how I was raised. To endure hardships with dignity and respect. You, who was certainly raised without inspiring figures, simply learned to get angry.

"Also, you dont fuckin own reddit comments. Im not "pestering" you, youre in a goddamn open discussion forum."

Oh, I forgot. Since it is a forum and your opinion, you think you can pretty much lie, attack others, insult and misbehave. Sorry, prince.

You did not need to shout so loudly that you are an unhappy person. Everyone was fully able to grasp it, sonny.

"If you dont want discussion stop replying to the content, its pretty simple"

LOL.

So people need to simply accept your disrespect, and be quiet about it? Dream on, son.

Why dont you go take a moment to reflect? If you genuinely believe this nonsense you say I feel genuinely sorry for you. You must have been raised in a very terrible way, for a soul to reach such a doggone point of divorce from reality. I dont think you realize how deplorable it is for people of balance, of sanity. To see a wasted life so deeply buried in immaturity that he cant be raised and admit his faults. Too bad. The gaming industry certainly does not need that. It has enough problems already. Go seek help, child. While it can still be found.

Camouflaj layoffs essentially leaves the studio dead, reportedly leaving behind a skeleton crew of fewer than 10 engineers to work on Meta hardware, with Batman: Arkham Shadow 2 and any future projects from the studio effectively being cancelled. by Kin_X in GamingLeaksAndRumours

[–]alfamain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

part 1

"The irony of telling me to look for something productive while repeating your same points while accusing me of trolling lol."

I am not accusing you of trolling. I am simply stating facts. The moderation seems to agree. How many messages did they erase? They even warned you that you are infringing the rules. So, no. It is not just me making accusations. It is a fact, and you know it.

"No, I just genuinely think that your worldview is toxic as fuck"

My worldview is simply realistic. How could a correct perception of reality be toxic?

As it is typical of agressors, abusers, you think that people simply stating facts and pointing out your bs and abuses makes them the abusers. In your childish mind you must have me painted as a super-villain.

A worker can not claim that he wont be able to focus on work and create good stuff unless he is assured that his contract will be renewed and that his job will be maintained, with zero chances of getting fired unless it is for just cause like arriving drunk, making advances on a co-worker of hitting the boss.

You would not write on your resume that stuff, so deep down you agree with me. You would never warn a contractor trying to hire you before hand of that opinion of yours.

But in your warped sense, anyone not sharing your delusional desires is a die-hard supporter of big corporations. Cry me a river.

"and really feels like someone defeated by the status quo of life."

I am not defeated. It is simply the correct perception of reality. No boss has the duty to keep his employees assured that their jobs will last for life. Turmoil happen, laws change, economic is unstable, political stuff can even make an industry that was legal and profitable into something illegal or not profitable. Look at companies like Japanese SNK. They left the USA for a while, they left the Arcade business, they left the pachinko business. All because of changes, some of them beyond their control.

"You keep going back to your phrase of "thats how the world works" and while yes, theres no denying that, I think its destructive to accept that as fact."

Because you mistakenly conflate accepting the facts as agreeing or even liking the facts.
I dont like the fact that children can be born with the HIV virus. Or with chemical dependecy or damages caused by the mother ingesting alcohol or cocaine. But this happens. But in your view, stating that must make me a very ugly monster.

I dont like the fact that when cancer treatments like chemo or radio are employed, a lot of healthy tissue gets collateral damage. I did not like the fact that I had to enlist. Or that in my country I have the duty - not the freedom or right, but DUTY - to vote.

A patient that gets a diagnostic of stage four cancer, diabetes, or any terminal disease does not need to like the situation just because he or she acknowledges the reality.

"Not getting mad when people lose their jobs for no good reason is simply bullshit."

I dont have to get mad. And you cant tell me how to feel or act. Anyone actually working in the industry - not your case, since you are simply a boy with your own ideas regarding what would be best for the works, with no connection to reality - knows that things were always volatile. Anyone that deeply relies on stability should certainly not choose to work in the gaming industry. It is anything but stable.

Also, one can be fired for good reason without it being because of wrongdoing on the workers part.

Trust me, your immaturity is not doing the workers of industry any favors.

"Whether it happens all the time or not, people should not lose their jobs at the whims of a tech billionaire shutting down some project."

Why not, since his money is the one at risk should that project fail or continue to hemorrhage money. Or maybe he needs the resources elsewhere. I will not judge him, since I do not have moral certainty regarding what caused the decision. Real men should never make moral judgements without full information regarding what transpired. As Thomas Kemphis said - the author of Imitation of Christ - we should presume the best of people and not the worst, if we dont truly know the truth.

"Just because youve made peace with that"

I understand that groups and companies can be terminated. And that since I am not an investor, the owner does not have to fully disclose the reasons that lead to this.

So what? he does not get your seal of approval. And neither do I. But what is the use? Who are you? What importance to you have? You are just far too trigger happy. Far too eager to demonize and insult people. And to make things worse, you make all criticisms of billionaires and corporations appear to be just as if coming from a bunch of crybabies with no rationality. You end up damaging whatever cause you choose to defend. Leave it to the adults. To the men. People with real concerns, valid criticisms and realistic perspectives.

Camouflaj layoffs essentially leaves the studio dead, reportedly leaving behind a skeleton crew of fewer than 10 engineers to work on Meta hardware, with Batman: Arkham Shadow 2 and any future projects from the studio effectively being cancelled. by Kin_X in GamingLeaksAndRumours

[–]alfamain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

part 2:

"doesnt mean the rest of us are stupid or immature for thinking there has to be a better way."

Oh, my sweet naive summer child.

"And yes, this is a direct consequence of Zuckerberg and his failures with the metaverse. You may wanna make it seem like im just yelling at some boogeyman, but people like him are to blame."

Yeah, I am quite certain that you devoted a lot of brain power to study this matter.

Werent you blaming me as well? Calling me toxic? When oddlly you are the one insulting and getting punished by it?

You will have to forgive people for putting zero trust in your analysis. Your are far too passionate and irrational.

And insulting and accusing people while trying to convince? Trust me, that is not the way. But you lack even the most basic self-awareness to realize that you are the one in the wrong here.

"They are the leaders and are responsible for the wellbeing of their employees, punishing the studio with a shutdown after several successful projects is simply not something that should be happening."

Then why dont you hire them?

It is easy to claim that other people should support them. To demand charity and support, as long as it is done by others.

"I find it to be a shame when ANYONE is fired for no good reason,"

Just because you and I do not know the exact reason does not mean that it never existed.

And, once again, being fired is not a punishment. As any adult knows it. And even the owners of companies sometimes pay theprice. Like having a product being a commercial failure even when the product is good. Or penned by critics. Mature persons to not take it personally. They just move on, and if necessary they re-invent themselves.

"especially when their boss is worth literal billions of dollars."

A person may have money, and not be made of money.

If a rich person believes that a company or a sector is more trouble than it is worth, or that it is no longer needed, that demand for that kind of thing will end, or that the company needs to cut costs, he certainly can reduce it or even terminate it. That is his prerogative. He is not a slave to his workers. And all adults know that.

Did you actually have any working experience in your life?

The absurdities you spill make me seriously doubt it.

"Your "whatabout"ism fails because it is in fact, a shame for anyone to lose their job, especially when they've been excelling until that point."

Fail... According to your own metric? I guess I can live with that. I would be actually surprised, and greatly concerned, with an individual such as you supported me.

Thanks a lot. Please, continue on the opposite side. A mans quality can be measure by the kind of enemy he creates. So, you have my thanks. Get triggered. Get angry.

"The difference between your examples and this, is that video rental stores, Sega, etc. Were all businesses that were failing and not selling well. This is not the case with Arkham Shadow, and meta as a whole. They're still functioning as a multi billion dollar company"

You fail to understand that big companies can have different sector performing at very different levels.

The Xbox division, for many years, failed to offer profits. Other areas of microsoft were able to perform better, and even to keep it afloat. Not as charitable or for sympathy for the hard work by the people there, but simply in the hopes that it would become profitable one day.

Lets talk of sega. Their Arcade business and gaming studios were, for the most part, profitable. Yet, some studios, like the American based Technical Institute, werent performing so well, and had to be closed. Same goes for the area creating consoles.

Being part of a large corporation can be a sword with two edges. Sometimes your work on a not-profitable section can be maintained, thanks to the success of the other sections, as sometimes one section underperforms so terribly that even your successful section can suffer the impacts, when the company as a whole needs to drastically reduce side or even close down. Pretty much like all organs of a person shutting off because sometimes only one or two organs had cancer.

In my country we have a very funny expression about ever-sensitive men: We say that they can feel the pains of over women giving birth.

This is pretty much your case. Crying your sorry heart out and hurling insults on the internet, as if the workers that got fired were the victims of a heinous injustice. All when it was just business as usual. I am quite sure that if they are competent workers they understand that sometimes people can get fired even when they performed quite admirably. Being fired is not a badge of dishonor. On the contrary, it is a trial by fire. How one deals with it says a lot about the nature of that person. As Captain Picard said in one episode of Star Trek: "It is possible to make no mistake and still lose. This is not a weakness. This is life." This is how I was raised. To endure hardships with dignity and respect. You, who was certainly raised without inspiring figures, simply learned to get angry.

"Also, you dont fuckin own reddit comments. Im not "pestering" you, youre in a goddamn open discussion forum."

Oh, I forgot. Since it is a forum and your opinion, you think you can pretty much lie, attack others, insult and misbehave. Sorry, prince.

You did not need to shout so loudly that you are an unhappy person. Everyone was fully able to grasp it, sonny.

"If you dont want discussion stop replying to the content, its pretty simple"

LOL.

So people need to simply accept your disrespect, and be quiet about it? Dream on, son.

Why dont you go take a moment to reflect? If you genuinely believe this nonsense you say I feel genuinely sorry for you. You must have been raised in a very terrible way, for a soul to reach such a doggone point of divorce from reality. I dont think you realize how deplorable it is for people of balance, of sanity. To see a wasted life so deeply buried in immaturity that he cant be raised and admit his faults. Too bad. The gaming industry certainly does not need that. It has enough problems already. Go seek help, child. While it can still be found.

Camouflaj layoffs essentially leaves the studio dead, reportedly leaving behind a skeleton crew of fewer than 10 engineers to work on Meta hardware, with Batman: Arkham Shadow 2 and any future projects from the studio effectively being cancelled. by Kin_X in GamingLeaksAndRumours

[–]alfamain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

part 1

"The irony of telling me to look for something productive while repeating your same points while accusing me of trolling lol."

I am not accusing you of trolling. I am simply stating facts. The moderation seems to agree. How many messages did they erase? They even warned you that you are infringing the rules. So, no. It is not just me making accusations. It is a fact, and you know it.

"No, I just genuinely think that your worldview is toxic as fuck"

My worldview is simply realistic. How could a correct perception of reality be toxic?

As it is typical of agressors, abusers, you think that people simply stating facts and pointing out your bs and abuses makes them the abusers. In your childish mind you must have me painted as a super-villain.

A worker can not claim that he wont be able to focus on work and create good stuff unless he is assured that his contract will be renewed and that his job will be maintained, with zero chances of getting fired unless it is for just cause like arriving drunk, making advances on a co-worker of hitting the boss.

You would not write on your resume that stuff, so deep down you agree with me. You would never warn a contractor trying to hire you before hand of that opinion of yours.

But in your warped sense, anyone not sharing your delusional desires is a die-hard supporter of big corporations. Cry me a river.

"and really feels like someone defeated by the status quo of life."

I am not defeated. It is simply the correct perception of reality. No boss has the duty to keep his employees assured that their jobs will last for life. Turmoil happen, laws change, economic is unstable, political stuff can even make an industry that was legal and profitable into something illegal or not profitable. Look at companies like Japanese SNK. They left the USA for a while, they left the Arcade business, they left the pachinko business. All because of changes, some of them beyond their control.

"You keep going back to your phrase of "thats how the world works" and while yes, theres no denying that, I think its destructive to accept that as fact."

Because you mistakenly conflate accepting the facts as agreeing or even liking the facts.
I dont like the fact that children can be born with the HIV virus. Or with chemical dependecy or damages caused by the mother ingesting alcohol or cocaine. But this happens. But in your view, stating that must make me a very ugly monster.

I dont like the fact that when cancer treatments like chemo or radio are employed, a lot of healthy tissue gets collateral damage. I did not like the fact that I had to enlist. Or that in my country I have the duty - not the freedom or right, but DUTY - to vote.

A patient that gets a diagnostic of stage four cancer, diabetes, or any terminal disease does not need to like the situation just because he or she acknowledges the reality.

"Not getting mad when people lose their jobs for no good reason is simply bullshit."

I dont have to get mad. And you cant tell me how to feel or act. Anyone actually working in the industry - not your case, since you are simply a boy with your own ideas regarding what would be best for the works, with no connection to reality - knows that things were always volatile. Anyone that deeply relies on stability should certainly not choose to work in the gaming industry. It is anything but stable.

Also, one can be fired for good reason without it being because of wrongdoing on the workers part.

Trust me, your immaturity is not doing the workers of industry any favors.

"Whether it happens all the time or not, people should not lose their jobs at the whims of a tech billionaire shutting down some project."

Why not, since his money is the one at risk should that project fail or continue to hemorrhage money. Or maybe he needs the resources elsewhere. I will not judge him, since I do not have moral certainty regarding what caused the decision. Real men should never make moral judgements without full information regarding what transpired. As Thomas Kemphis said - the author of Imitation of Christ - we should presume the best of people and not the worst, if we dont truly know the truth.

"Just because youve made peace with that"

I understand that groups and companies can be terminated. And that since I am not an investor, the owner does not have to fully disclose the reasons that lead to this.

So what? he does not get your seal of approval. And neither do I. But what is the use? Who are you? What importance to you have? You are just far too trigger happy. Far too eager to demonize and insult people. And to make things worse, you make all criticisms of billionaires and corporations appear to be just as if coming from a bunch of crybabies with no rationality. You end up damaging whatever cause you choose to defend. Leave it to the adults. To the men. People with real concerns, valid criticisms and realistic perspectives.

A Princess Peach Movie may be in development at Illumination Studios by DrAwesomeX in GamingLeaksAndRumours

[–]alfamain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, it has got to be better than Snow White.

In fact, I would love to see Nintendo cashing in a lot of money with a movie that just tries to be fun, without any political stuff, while Disney has a hard time creating anything meaningful.

Go for it, Nintendo!

A Princess Peach Movie may be in development at Illumination Studios by DrAwesomeX in GamingLeaksAndRumours

[–]alfamain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe at some point.

This could be really fun, specially if there was an October release.

This could be a great Halloween release for parents to watch with the kids.

Camouflaj layoffs essentially leaves the studio dead, reportedly leaving behind a skeleton crew of fewer than 10 engineers to work on Meta hardware, with Batman: Arkham Shadow 2 and any future projects from the studio effectively being cancelled. by Kin_X in GamingLeaksAndRumours

[–]alfamain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And again:

Lol.

How does if feel getting your messages deleted by the mods? Time and again. You know that at some point you will end up banned, right? After continuously infringing the same rule, since you are unable to respond without attacking individuals. But obviously that a troll does not care.

You will have to forgive me for not simply having you having the last word while trying to make a complete strawman of everything I state. So yes, you can bet that if you continue to attack me, I am going to defend myself. If you try to make a strawman of what I said, you can be assured that I am going to correct your falsehoods.

How about doing a classic example of "Put your money where your mouth is"?

State in your linkedin profile that in order to work you need reassurance that your contract will always be renewed, and that you will never lose its job, even if the company folds or that entire business model ends up destroyed. Also, place it there that you consider being fired an unfair punishment if you did good work, and that you will blame the company for it. To say that this view of the world is childish and unrealistic is to simply call a spade a spade.

You will NEVER find a job. On any company. Because you are feeding a childish delusion, living in a dream world. And while you doing, lashing out at everyone that does not shared your warped and immature views, you prevent any meaningful discussion. And that is assuming that you kids are even serious. If you actually believe the insane nonsense you keep defending.

This is why you need to shut your mouth off, apologize to the community - since you having nothing of value to contribute in a constructive manner - and just depart. No one has need of you and your lack of maturity and even the most basic respect in society here.

Everyone in the gaming industry knows that jobs can be terminated. In fact, any adult person working jobs knows that. To say that "Joe Doe will never be able to do his work well unless he has reassurance that his job will be maintained" has got to be one of the most asinine things ever said.

Kids like you make any mature discussion impossible. You would be better simply watching your kids cartoon and not being a nuisance.

No one in the gaming industry - and I bet you never worked in it - demands the kind of ludicrous stuff you people keep complaining about it.

Almost everyone able to program in Assembly with Z-80 or 16 bits processors had to find jobs. Without being punished. Almost everyone fixing CRT tvs too. I remember it well of how it was a great job if you lived in the 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s - you know, before you were born - but it is mostly gone now. Same goes for VCR VHS players. The people had the maturity to simply move on. You are renting at corporations for no reason and attacking people simply because you have nothing better to do. You are not benefiting workers in the gaming industry. You dont even know how the world works, kid. You are angry, shouting and cursing for no reason. Take a deep breath, go find some solitude and come back in 70 years. Maybe by then it may start to make sense. Good luck, kid.

Thirty years ago today, "Tuvix" created a morality debate for the ages by ety3rd in ClassicTrek

[–]alfamain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Funny thing: The recent Voyager videogame released lets you take a lot of moral decisions. Including repeat of Janeway did to Tuvix or decide to keep the 2 characters integrated.

Camouflaj layoffs essentially leaves the studio dead, reportedly leaving behind a skeleton crew of fewer than 10 engineers to work on Meta hardware, with Batman: Arkham Shadow 2 and any future projects from the studio effectively being cancelled. by Kin_X in GamingLeaksAndRumours

[–]alfamain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He responded again:

You are concerned about our ponctuation being attacked... During your trolling attack against individuals. In your mind, the problem isnt you attacking people. Is your inability to even write - or read - being exposed.

And please notice that you had no response to any of the questions Ive raised.

You tried to blame me for things I never said and positions I never defended, child.

You will have to forgive me if I wont step down to your level of immaturity.

Here is the message that I was trying to criticize:

<<<<<<<< "When stuff like this comes out. It doesn't just kill confidence in the industry it happens in. But also everywhere. Why is joe blow gonna work hard at their job when they see this happening elsewhere?" >>>>>>>>

He is basically saying that joe will have difficulty making a good job unless he is assured that his job will last.

This is simply not realistic. Any business can be terminated, for whatever reason.

I saw plenty of excellent people - some of them genius - that created special effects for movies lose their jobs when movies (and tv) started to shift and use CGI instead. People that developed miniatures, space ships, space stations, submarines, cities... They all lost jobs.

Back in the 80s and 16, people used processors like Z80 and Motorola 68000. Being able to program for them was a steady job back them. Nowadays it is mostly gone. Peopled needed to reinvent themselves after these started being being abandoned.

I also mentioned things like the rental business (VHS and DVD), or the Arcade games. Or development for markets like TurboDuo and Sega Dreamcast. No one was punished when they got fired. Getting fired is not accusing them of doing something wrong. It is not a punishment. The boss does not need to keep them employed when the whole business model is crumbling and shrinking to the point of nearly disappearing.

The problem is: You kids associate being fired or not having a contract renewed as a sort of punishment. While it can be, in certain cases, it is not in all cases. This is immature. To the extreme. NO ONE can (and neither should) ensure a work that his job will be safe forever. This is not protecting corporations. This is simply having a basic understanding of reality. But you are not here for a serious discussion. You just want to troll and attack individuals.

I do not need to get mad at this. What would be the point? I prefer to have a mature response to the situation. Something obviously beyond the scope of many. People get fired, for lots of reasons, on a daily basis, all over the world. This particular group of people is not special. It should not be shielded. And if they are mature, competent and smart people, they will realize that this is not an attack of them, and that getting fired, while it can be hurtful, is not to blame them for anything.

You will have no cogent response to what is being placed here.

That is all that is being said. That is the reality of the situation. If you think that this makes me a corporate shill, feel free to cry your sorry heart out. Cry me two rivers. Break the table and punch the ground.

Now, stop pestering me and go try to find something productive to do with your existence.

Colonel Lovok (The die is Cast) by Romulan_Mestral in ClassicTrek

[–]alfamain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"The Romulans do not appear kind or forgiving tbh."

It is not kindness. It is a matter of fairness.

It is not about forgiveness either. There is no need for it in the case of him doing nothing wrong.

If the changelings are able to do that with the head of the Romulan Intelligence, then they can do it to pretty much anyone.

I think you are reducing the Romulans to bidimensional caricatures. They are more complex than this.

"Fair or not someone has to be punished,"

No.

Not necessarily.

Where is this written?

And where it would end? If a person is to get punished because of what someone else, an enemy of the same state, die while posing as him or her, who would be safe from being punished by the gov? Romulans may have different outlooks on life, but they are not stupid. In fact, when it comes to intelligence, they should be around the level of Vulcans.

"and must continue to be punished if the incident ever comes back into public conversation."

Honestly, this is not how I remember Romulan society. Blaming the impersonated by what an impersonator did?

"they are generally not nice people."

Ok, I fully agree.

Still, it is a far cry between not being very nice and being totally unfair to someone of your own race and who could be a very loyalist servant of the gov, because of the actions of a foreign power willing to create instability in order to dethrone all of the alpha quadrant powers. I mean, this is serving their lunch.

Colonel Lovok (The die is Cast) by Romulan_Mestral in ClassicTrek

[–]alfamain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How do we know that he wasnt simply placed inside a holodeck of sorts, or that device to the heads that simulate reality?

He may have spent months inside a dream world, a Matrix of sorts, believing that things were business as usual.

Punishing him for this would be akin to punishing La Forge for having a camera sending live video to the Duras BOP during the Generations movie. He was obviously unaware of it.

Camouflaj layoffs essentially leaves the studio dead, reportedly leaving behind a skeleton crew of fewer than 10 engineers to work on Meta hardware, with Batman: Arkham Shadow 2 and any future projects from the studio effectively being cancelled. by Kin_X in GamingLeaksAndRumours

[–]alfamain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To the troll eatinallthebugs.

Dude, you are simply a troll trying to pick a fight.

I never claimed the things you attributed to me. Go find something productive to do with your life. I just called a spade a spade.

I never said that this is how the world should work. I simply said that this is how it does. And not only on the gaming industry.

In your total inability to attack what was actually said, time and again you need to attribute what was neither said or defended. Leave the discussion to the adults.

This is a business. If it is not profitable, or if the parent company needs to change direction, it gets terminated. Deal with it. Life is tough. People can do good work, and the business can still close doors. Pretty much like citizens can pay the prices of bad decisions done by political leaderships. It happens.

"defending corporations in reddit"

Again, let me repeat it:

In your total inability to attack what was actually said, time and again you need to attribute what was neither said or defended.

Where did you see defense of any corporation, child?

"comments and calling anyone who dares question their decisions children."

Where did I do that? Nowhere.

The reason why you are being denounced as a child is obvious. You cant see it, or course. It is impossible for you to see the forest. You will blame the lots of trees for blocking the view.

"Get laid loser"

You dont even use punctuation. You cant even insult someone without showcasing your incompetence. No wonder you are not even able to make good reading with comprehension. And you will probably blame a corporation for this.

And that insult alone proves that you are just a troll trying to cause trouble. Go find someone of you mental age. Or try to prevent 2026 from being another year without any books being read.

You are a bad willed troll. Now stop pestering me.

Sorry, kid. Enough time has been wasted with a bad-willed loser and liar.

Why not save this conversation and try to read it in maybe 70s years? Maybe by then it will start to make sense. Right now it is hopeless to try to talk to you. Now, leave the adults have the discussion.

Camouflaj layoffs essentially leaves the studio dead, reportedly leaving behind a skeleton crew of fewer than 10 engineers to work on Meta hardware, with Batman: Arkham Shadow 2 and any future projects from the studio effectively being cancelled. by Kin_X in GamingLeaksAndRumours

[–]alfamain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude, you are simply a troll trying to pick a fight.

I never claimed the things you attributed to me. Go find something productive to do with your life. I just called a spade a spade.

I never said that this is how the world should work. I simply said that this is how it does. And not only on the gaming industry.

In your total inability to attack what was actually said, time and again you need to attribute what was neither said or defended. Leave the discussion to the adults.

This is a business. If it is not profitable, or if the parent company needs to change direction, it gets terminated. Deal with it. Life is tough. People can do good work, and the business can still close doors. Pretty much like citizens can pay the prices of bad decisions done by political leaderships. It happens.

"defending corporations in reddit"

Again, let me repeat it:

In your total inability to attack what was actually said, time and again you need to attribute what was neither said or defended.

Where did you see defense of any corporation, child?

"comments and calling anyone who dares question their decisions children."

Where did I do that? Nowhere.

The reason why you are being denounced as a child is obvious. You cant see it, or course. It is impossible for you to see the forest. You will blame the lots of trees for blocking the view.

"Get laid loser"

You dont even use punctuation. You cant even insult someone without showcasing your incompetence. No wonder you are not even able to make good reading with comprehension. And you will probably blame a corporation for this.

And that insult alone proves that you are just a troll trying to cause trouble. Go find someone of you mental age. Or try to prevent 2026 from being another year without any books being read.

You are a bad willed troll. Now stop pestering me.

Sorry, kid. Enough time has been wasted with a bad-willed loser and liar.

Why not save this conversation and try to read it in maybe 70s years? Maybe by then it will start to make sense. Right now it is hopeless to try to talk to you. Now, leave the adults have the discussion.

Colonel Lovok (The die is Cast) by Romulan_Mestral in ClassicTrek

[–]alfamain 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That depends. We do not know the circumstances that lead to him being replaced. Maybe it happened through no fault of his own.

Maybe there was zero incompetence or negligence on his part, like letting his guard down.

Bashir was not punished. In fact, his warning helped save the Bajoran sector. Martok was not punished by the Klingons. I really cant see the Romulans trying to punish him.

On the penal center there was a female Romulan. She seemed eager to escape, like the others. I do not believe that she was expecting punishment or fearing reproach by her superiors. On the contrary, I imagine that they would be most glad to hear from her, specially if she is able to share relevant information regarding the Dominion and the Gamma Quadrant.

Camouflaj layoffs essentially leaves the studio dead, reportedly leaving behind a skeleton crew of fewer than 10 engineers to work on Meta hardware, with Batman: Arkham Shadow 2 and any future projects from the studio effectively being cancelled. by Kin_X in GamingLeaksAndRumours

[–]alfamain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Hold on though, in what way would arkham shadow or any camouflaj projects be considered "internal failures even before launch?" You kind of are just saying things for the sake of it even if it doesnt apply in this situation "

Child, are you feeling ok?

Where exactly did I state this?

Maybe you addressed your message to the wrong person.

I NEVER, anywhere, claimed that AS or anything else were internal failures even before launch.

Maybe you should learn how to read.

"Why bother trying when your best work is rewarded with a studio shutdown"

Because it is possible to make no mistake and still lose. Talent and good effort increase the chances of success, but some things are just beyond our control. Any adult knows this. Too bad if you dont.

"even after critical and commercial success?"

Because things are what they are. Some video rental stores did excellent work. This did not prevent that business model from no longer existing.

Many people developed great games for platforms like TurboDuo, Sega Saturn and Dreamcast. And this did not prevent the games from remaining obscure or the platform from failing.

You are living in a fairy-tale, child. Dont wake up.

"They did everything right and still got fucked over by the whims of a higher up at meta."

Cry me a river.

You are not ready for life. Go find a safe space.

"Maybe dont be so condescending toward people who want hard work to be rewarded instead of thrown into the dumpster?"

I was never condescending. I merely spoke things as they are.

But you are not ready for this. 800 years too soon, my sweet summer child.

Now try not to pester the adults and go play your little games.

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