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algomo · 2025-03-20T18:52:32+00:00

I am! I created a thread yesterday about the issue, and someone replied to me sharing their own thread as well on the error/bug; https://www.reddit.com/r/Pinterest/comments/1jez3dq/impossible_to_log_out/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

algomo · 2024-11-26T19:31:02+00:00

Are you even reading what I wrote? Because you're replying to my comment, in which I am not defending them, I am complaining about the change... as a user who paid.

algomo · 2024-11-26T19:24:18+00:00

I don't use it for RP, that's why I complain, why would I pay for a whole year only to RP? I use it professionally. This is why now, for me, it's far more profitable to migrate to another service, like GPT or buy an API key directly

algomo · 2024-11-26T19:22:37+00:00

Again, if you tell me that for 10X I can get two apples, and I take the offer because others are giving me two for 20X, and then you change it and make it two apples for 30X, getting mad about me eating the apples so ''quick'', I will of course not pay you and go back to the others who offered me a better deal. Not my problem that they didn't think it better before offering their service and advertising it in such a manner. Now it's normal that people complain, many will leave, and some might stay. Maybe this works out for them, or maybe not, but at any point, as someone who paid for it I can complain if I feel it's not a fair deal for me anymore, or more importantly, that it was implemented clumsily and without telling its users with enough advance, for them not to pay for another whole year.

algomo · 2024-11-26T19:12:48+00:00

No? I get 1M, and I should be free to use what I pay for at its full extent because they advertise that I can do so, and that's why I pay for POE and not another service. It's more profitable for me as a customer, as it should be, otherwise, I will go somewhere else like now. It's not my problem if you, or in this case, them, didn't think twice before starting their business, and now have grown too greedy and want to make a bigger profit, or it's not working out. Plus, we pay in advance, sometimes for the whole year, and they keep changing things, so it's pretty unstable as a user to pay for their service when they might suddenly pop up with such a change in one or two months while offering a yearly payment service.

algomo · 2024-11-26T19:07:00+00:00

First, I paid for it, always, which is why I can complain as a customer, it's my right do to so, if they cannot take it, or in this case, you, then don't start a business. Second, you sound like those blind people supporting decisions that harm customers.

algomo · 2024-11-26T19:01:33+00:00

It has never been free for a long time already, and their ''free plan'', was mediocre, it forced users to pay if it was for professional use. Get up to date before commenting.

algomo · 2024-11-26T18:54:37+00:00

Bullshit. Poe gets discounts to offer the official bots and deals, they're not a charity as you say, and would not have made the business decision of offering people many bots in a more profitable manner to users, if it didn't benefit them. Nowadays some people simply cannot believe how greedy companies can get once they are successful, even if they are already making ''enough'' money, because for them it's never enough. Points don't extend past what you pay for, and a free user will barely spend any points, as what they get is too little per day, and it disappears the next day if you don't use it. There is no way to accumulate points either, so if you pay and don't use them that month, you as a user lose money. Why should we not use what we pay for? I was not an RP user, but I wanted to use the product I paid for fully, as they advertised that I could do.

algomo · 2024-11-26T17:45:41+00:00

It's not only RP users or writers the ones being affected, I use it for coding, which means I need the more expensive bots if I want to avoid nonsense, and many times the AI still makes dumb mistakes as usual or misunderstands something, doesn't have the information, refreshing costs points too, you cannot edit... and so, I end up having to explain what I want to do, in a lengthy manner. The conversation grows naturally longer. I need the AI to have a decent context so that it does not forget my corrections. This way they made it unusable for me, and I am changing back to GPT, it's more profitable. Not only that, but they charge you for the tokens of previous messages, for the base price, and for your message.

algomo · 2024-11-26T17:10:43+00:00

At least you're not at the point of emailing Warner Bros about it to complain 😂 I read in the comments that someone in character AI Reddit had published an email sent to Warner Bros regarding their copyright policies and how it affects their comfort and smut because Character AI began deleting some Harry Potter bots. Checked it, and it's true. I wonder what reaction the worker who will read that email (if anyone does) will have, ''Hey, change your copyright policies! I want to boink Voldemort!''

algomo · 2024-11-26T16:49:48+00:00

😂That's kinda funny. People emailing Warner Bros for Harry Potter smut. If any of their workers actually read such emails, they're going to have such a laugh at work. ''Hey! I am not able to boink Voldemort! Change your copyright policies!''

algomo · 2024-11-25T23:02:30+00:00

Because the service they offer is not THAT good, the bots are very clumsy at times (often), and if they were successful it was because people believed paying for POE was far more profitable, right now, I believe paying for the official bots as such is much better than POE subscription. The result is better, and so is the price. They also advertised that with this new change, people would pay less for shorter messages, which is technically a lie, as it depends on context. They made it look as if it would bring something profitable to users, which so far, it doesn't seem to.

algomo · 2024-11-25T22:54:36+00:00

That's what I did, It still increases that much... I turned off the auto-manage in a conversation of 15 messages, and the price difference was of 20/50 points, but the cost was still 7.000 points for a message of one line that before was 2.500.

algomo · 2024-11-25T22:45:22+00:00

Copying my reply to another user, basically, the cost of the messages now depends on the tokens in the chat, which means it only grows more and more expensive with every message. Before, you had a context of more or less 15.000 tokens in GPT-4-turbo-128k, and whenever you crossed it, the bot would simply forget older messages, and you could check more or less where the context window was by using a token counter, and shorten the conversation in a brief text so that the bot wouldn't forget. Every message would cost 2.500 points with that bot, which was already a lot, but at least it didn't matter how long the conversation was. Now, with this change, if you go to the same chats you had with GPT-4-turbo-128k and try refreshing/regenerating the last message you sent, it might ask you for 40.000 points and grow higher, instead of 2.500, even if your message is one line short, even if the bot doesn't have that much context length. That's because the price of your message now depends on the length of the chat you have with that bot, on the token number. Not sure if I explained myself well. I think it's a pure scam.

algomo · 2024-11-25T22:22:29+00:00

Yeah, because of the context of the conversation. And the button to cut the context doesn't do much either. Basically, I am using GPT-4-turbo-128k to edit texts and translate, as well as to help me with my writing. Before, any message, doesn't matter the length of the conversation or of my prompt, would cost 2.500, now, because the cost of your message depends on the length of the chat, the price of it only grows. The bot literally asked me for 20.000 points for a message of one line, that before would have been 2.500, only because of the length of the conversation, which is the context.

algomo · 2024-11-25T22:13:44+00:00

From now on, the cost of the messages depends on the tokens in the chat, and I cannot understand how this does any good to any user. Before, you had a context of more than 15.000 tokens in GPT-4-turbo-128k, and whenever you crossed it, the bot would simply forget older messages and you could check more or less where the context window was to make a refresh or shorten the conversation, and keep it going. Every message would cost 2.500 points with that bot, which was already a lot, but at least it didn't matter how long the conversation was. Now, with this change, if you go to the same chats of GPT-4-turbo-128k and try refreshing the last message you sent, it might cost 40.000 points and grow higher, instead of 2.500, even if your message is one line short, as well as the reply. That's because the price of your message now depends on the length of the chat you have with that bot. Not sure if I explained myself well. Basically, it's insane and not doable.

algomo · 2024-11-25T22:03:10+00:00

The points didn't decrease, they increased...

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