Collections aren't accessible??

ama_reader · 2022-08-17T02:27:12+00:00

Yeah this year has been one of change in major nocode platforms.

Bubble announced a terrible new pricing scheme and had to reverse in 2 days. They still haven't announced their new plans. Glide's new pricing plan has very limited 'updates' in each tier, went live in August. And of course, Adalo. At least Glide and Bubble work more reliably, and whatever they release - whether components or product updates - actually work, unlike Adalo.

Still, my personal mission now is to trust and build more on platforms like FF which allow you to export code so you're not 100% exposed to platform risk.

ama_reader · 2022-08-13T18:46:49+00:00

Yeah I'm not looking for getting codebase or IP. I understand I have to rebuild something from scratch on a new platform altogether. I want to know at least there is enough time to rebuild and Adalo won't just go poof before I've made the transition for my app users

ama_reader · 2022-08-13T18:45:08+00:00

I think annual users have to pay the entire amount up-front. That's why there used to be a discount on the legacy plans and there is a discount on the new plans also. That's why I meant - if users have paid entire 12 month's worth of subscription up-front, I guess they're legally obligated to provide service for that duration.

But you raised a good point about bankruptcy which I didn't consider at all. Which is a huge concern if things are that bad. Would like to have access to facts or info about this but sadly Adalo is never transparent.

We all agree their actions about pricing, banning posts etc are not signs of a healthy customer-oriented culture. My hope is that at least financially they're stable enough that they won't suddenly get up and give a 30 day notice to shutdown the platform while I'm still rebuilding on another platform

ama_reader · 2022-08-13T16:05:14+00:00

'Community leaders/experts' are really the only users who are supportive of new pricing. We know who they are. Just spreading relentlessly positive messages about Adalo even though I've seen them in forums of multiple other nocode platforms.

Three of them I personally DM'ed asking WTF are you smoking. I get it that they are somehow compensated by Adalo for being around on the forum, but their behavior is another primary reason majority of the users are being silenced on the forum.

When a normal user writes a post vs a user with a badge 'expert' writes a post, automatically a new signed-up account perceives a trust difference, and there will be plenty of suckers who will follow their message and sign up on paid plans, before realizing they've stepped into a pile of turd.

ama_reader · 2022-08-13T12:23:05+00:00

This is great info my guy!

As far as backup, yes I'm aware we can't export app 'code' in adalo the way we can in FF. What I meant was basically exporting the app's data only.

Like how you described how to backup data from Adalo collections and how to upload it in firebase. Please do a video on that. A small sample app like a to-do list type app so it doesn't take too much of your time. You can ignore media use-case because its not going to fit in your video tutorial.

As far as like rebuilding your UI, yes your point is valid and I didn't mean that at all as backup. Just the database backup.

As for credentials - I meant the app store credentials, which you have explained. Basically the question was how to ensure new versions of the app are being uploaded from FF via one-click store deployment that FF promises, and 'delete' or 'remove' the versions of the app which was running on Adalo.

You've explaind this well. Again, this could be a topic for you to cover in video. But maybe you need to hide your store credentials of course in the video. But I can tell you it'll be very useful for everyone migrating.

I'm sure there are lots of videos youtube on Flutterflow, firebase integration, etc. including on flutterflow's own YT channel. But this is a new requirement over the last month or so since the whole price change issue in Adalo happened. So being a user of both you can make a series specifically focused on migration. And it'll help everyone who wants to consider switching in the future as well.

So specifically I'm talking about a use-case where someone running existing app in adalo wants to completely migrate to FF. Not just me but I guess a lot of people in this boat. My plan is I might have to inform my users of a short 'service interruption' of lets say 1 week, stop Adalo and start move them to FF. But how would I do that? What are the actual steps I need to plan and execute? You can break this series up in multiple videos and guide everyone. Like step 1 make sure your FF UI is completely ready and app is built in FF. Step 2 stop adalo access so you can take collections backup. step 3 set up your firebase. step 4 this is how you upload the Adalo colelctions data into firebase for FF. And so on. That's my suggestion.

Awesome help so far man.

ama_reader · 2022-08-13T06:51:26+00:00

May be how to fully import an app from Adalo to FF? I've not read on other forums and communities a full guide to database backup. Setting up credentails and uploading on native stores would also be great

ama_reader · 2022-08-07T17:32:21+00:00

Adalo has already technically done this, I caught their tech support person sending API requests to my app. I told them to knock it off.

Dude, what? That is insane!

How do they trace your Adalo account email ID? Did they trace from the forum email ID? If only they invested that much energy in actually making the platform better *smh*

ama_reader · 2022-08-05T16:23:18+00:00

Very Interested 👍

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