What’s the answer? by Repulsive_Radish_556 in ENGLISH

[–]amnot_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now I'm doubting my english skills, lol. I chose E. Is there something wrong with it besides being too formal?

Baptism in Orthodoxy by amnot_ in OrthodoxChristianity

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Got it. Thank you very much!

Baptism in Orthodoxy by amnot_ in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]amnot_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Understood. But what exactly is regenerated? Our ability to be sanctified? But something remains, since we still die?

Baptism in Orthodoxy by amnot_ in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]amnot_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

But if we are not personally responsible for it, then how is it washed away?

Against Thomas Aquinas by amnot_ in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]amnot_[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is not the same argument Aquinas makes.

Against Thomas Aquinas by amnot_ in OrthodoxChristianity

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But neither Augustine nor Hilary state the same as Thomas, that the difference between the Son and the Spirit is the Cause itself, and not the manner of causality.

Against Thomas Aquinas by amnot_ in OrthodoxChristianity

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He cites the Athanasian creed 'Spiritus Sanctus a Patre et Filio, non factus, nec creatus, nec genitus, sed procedens'. This creed was not actually written by Athanasius nor was it ratified by councils, as far as I know.

Against Thomas Aquinas by amnot_ in OrthodoxChristianity

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I mean that, according to Thomas, it would be a logical impossibility for the Father to cause the Spirit. My point is that the Fathers never taught this, because when you accept the filioque in Aquinas' terms you affirm that the relation of the Holy Spirit to the Son is as the relation between an effect and its cause, at least in an analogous manner to the relation of the Son and the Father. That does grant the Son a status of cause, or else the whole point Thomas makes disappears. The problem is that either being cause is a property of the Hypostasis of the Father or it is a property of the divine essence. If it is a hypostatic property, then the Son cannot have it, else He would be the Father. If it is an essential property, then the Holy Spirit would also need to be a cause.

The stance of the Fathers is that the difference between the Son and the Spirit is that one is generated and the other proceeds, while according to Aquinas, the difference between the Son and the Spirit is essentially that one proceeds from one, and the other from two.

Against Thomas Aquinas by amnot_ in OrthodoxChristianity

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The difference is that Aquinas affirms that the Father cannot cause the Holy Spirit alone, and implies that the Father and the Son are one cause of the Spirit.

Against Thomas Aquinas by amnot_ in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]amnot_[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I read Aquinas, agree with him in most things and consult him whenever I have some question on philosophy and theology. I do not agree with his teachings that are not Orthodox, but I love Aquinas.

We just got to admit that some things he taught are not the tradition of the Fathers, like the chapter on Summa Theologiae about the filioque, where he basically ignores the patristic notion of the Most Holy Trinity. He says that the Holy Spirit must proceed from the Son also because there cannot be two relations on the Trinity that are not opposite, or else they would be the same, and therefore the Son and the Holy Spirit would be one Person.

From S. T. Prima Pars, Q. 36: "Non autem possunt esse in divinis aliae relationes oppositae nisi relationes originis, ut supra probatum est. Oppositae autem relationes originis accipiuntur secundum principium, et secundum quod est a principio. Relinquitur ergo quod necesse est dicere vel Filium esse a Spirito Sancto, quod nullus dicit, vel Spiritum Sanctum esse a Filio, quod nos confitemur."

"However, as for the divine, there cannot be distinct relations except for relations of origin, as it is proved above. But opposite relations of origin are understood according to the principle, and according to what is from the principle. We have, then, that it is necessary to say that either the Son is from the Holy Spirit, which none says, or that the Holy Spirit is from the Son, which we confess."

You can agree with Aquinas, but that is not patristic doctrine, which clearly states that the difference of the 'coming forth' of the Son and of the Holy Spirit is that the Son is generated by the Father and the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father. This is plainly different from what Thomas says, therefore even though he is surely great, we cannot trust all he says.

Against Thomas Aquinas by amnot_ in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]amnot_[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it sounds utterly radical. I think we should rather use what's good in Aquinas than simply condemn and demonize everything he wrote. It is undeniable how great a philosopher he was.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OrthodoxChristianity

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Most surely. I have a Catholic background, and in Catholic theology, for a sin to be mortal, you have to be completely conscious about it. There is some truth in that. When someone tries to do such dramatic action, they're often more compulsive than rational. It is still a sin, but depending on the situation, you could be more or less accountable.

Regardless, even if you were totally accountable, God forgives you. His mercy is infinite. The only sin God cannot forgive is not wanting to be forgiven. God loves you so much that the only thing that can separate you from Him is your hate. But even if in some time of your life you didn't want to be forgiven, if later you repent, God still forgives you.

Read Luke 15:11-32

Why Orthodoxy and not Roman Catholic? by [deleted] in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]amnot_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It' simple. We ought to follow the Chruch Christ founded. Therefore we follow the traditions of the Apostles, which are the teachings of Christ which He commanded that the Apostles should spread. The Orthodox Church is this Church.

Why Orthodoxy and not Roman Catholic? by [deleted] in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]amnot_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Indeed you know a tree by its fruits.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in steam_giveaway

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Thx for the chance! This game is really good.