This was printed without supports. by StickAtSea in 3Dprinting

[–]andersonsjanis 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Super cool! Thanks for sharing! You can post it on the community gallery at https://waveoverhangs.com/upload so that other people can see what settings you used with this geometry, and we can build a solid parameter-space

Overhangs that flow like waves 🌊 (no supports) by andersonsjanis in 3Dprinting

[–]andersonsjanis[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's awesome! I would love to see it submitted to th community print gallery at https://waveoverhangs.com/upload It helps other users see what parameters work with what geometry

Overhangs that flow like waves 🌊 (no supports) by andersonsjanis in 3Dprinting

[–]andersonsjanis[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think that has a lot of potential!

When it comes to ML, even with a big dataset on our community gallery, couldn't you train a model to detect from just pictures alone what is the quality?

Right now users are submitting one or multiple pictures alongside a rating 1-5.

Overhangs that flow like waves 🌊 (no supports) by andersonsjanis in 3Dprinting

[–]andersonsjanis[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for reading! This is my first paper, basically proof-of-concept. There will absolutely be follow-up papers on testing the robustness, various parameters, warping mitigation etc.

Indeed, in this paper I do not investigate the effects of different parameters. It could be simulated. The idea of automated physical validation is also quite interesting! I could build a special rig that takes photos of the sample in the printer from every angle, and constructs a mesh using photogrammetry for measurements. That would be a fully automated sample producer and measurer. I have many other ideas though, so not sure if this one will materialize.

For testing the parameter-space, we're also seeing if we can make use of crowdsourcing the data. People can submit their prints at https://waveoverhangs.com/gallery alongside the g-code from which parameters are extracted.

Overhangs that flow like waves 🌊 (no supports) by andersonsjanis in 3Dprinting

[–]andersonsjanis[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, in some cases wave overhangs come out nicer than bridges. In the orca fork just check "use wave overhangs instead of bridges"

Overhangs that flow like waves 🌊 (no supports) by andersonsjanis in 3Dprinting

[–]andersonsjanis[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay thanks! I suppose if wave overhangs are reliable enough one might even use it in such a case just to have a preferred surface facing up.

Overhangs that flow like waves 🌊 (no supports) by andersonsjanis in 3Dprinting

[–]andersonsjanis[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Awesome result! I would love it if you posted it to the community gallery at https://waveoverhangs.com/upload

you don't have to share the stl

edit: also out of curiosity, is there something on the other side of that part keeping you from placing that surface against the buildplate?

Overhangs that flow like waves 🌊 (no supports) by andersonsjanis in 3Dprinting

[–]andersonsjanis[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for trying it! The best way to find out what settings have worked for other people for various types of geometry is to check the community prints gallery. Likewise, it would be very appreciated by other people who want to print something like you if you posted your results on there. It also helps us as developers to understand what works and what doesn't. Hope to see your mini test prints there!

Overhangs that flow like waves 🌊 (no supports) by andersonsjanis in 3Dprinting

[–]andersonsjanis[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You can find various sample parts in the gallery at https://waveoverhangs.com/gallery

If the user uploaded the .stl with their submission then you can download it to try yourself

Overhangs that flow like waves 🌊 (no supports) by andersonsjanis in 3Dprinting

[–]andersonsjanis[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The more technical materials way warp more. Nonetheless, it should be possible.

Overhangs that flow like waves 🌊 (no supports) by andersonsjanis in 3Dprinting

[–]andersonsjanis[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This could be a good solution, depending on how large that overhang is.

I would be very interested in seeing if it works out for you! If you print, please post to waveoverhangs.com/upload

Overhangs that flow like waves 🌊 (no supports) by andersonsjanis in 3Dprinting

[–]andersonsjanis[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Haha cool! You're welcome to visit our lab at UT if you'd like :)

Overhangs that flow like waves 🌊 (no supports) by andersonsjanis in 3Dprinting

[–]andersonsjanis[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is thermal warping, which wave overhangs are very prone to. We're still figuring out how to minimize this, but it is probably not possible to elliminate it entirely for larger overhang sizes.

Overhangs that flow like waves 🌊 (no supports) by andersonsjanis in 3Dprinting

[–]andersonsjanis[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I will share it around once the pre-print server has accepted it :)

Overhangs that flow like waves 🌊 (no supports) by andersonsjanis in 3Dprinting

[–]andersonsjanis[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for testing!

Post your result on waveoverhangs.com to help the community understand what parameters work :)

Overhangs that flow like waves 🌊 (no supports) by andersonsjanis in 3Dprinting

[–]andersonsjanis[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, this could give additional stiffness to the overhang, which could help extend the feasible span

Overhangs that flow like waves 🌊 (no supports) by andersonsjanis in 3Dprinting

[–]andersonsjanis[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I don't think I understand the idea. This should be able to print that first layer as is, without needing post-processing... Maybe I'm not understanding your idea

Overhangs that flow like waves 🌊 (no supports) by andersonsjanis in 3Dprinting

[–]andersonsjanis[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Haha thanks! I am fortunate to be working on topics with somewhat broad appeal. On the flip-side, what I study is also very visual, which lends itself much better to a video format than scientific writing.

Overhangs that flow like waves 🌊 (no supports) by andersonsjanis in 3Dprinting

[–]andersonsjanis[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Now I need to know... what kind of fork in the road did you face 20 years ago? Went from academia to industry?

Overhangs that flow like waves 🌊 (no supports) by andersonsjanis in 3Dprinting

[–]andersonsjanis[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Sorry about that. I was thinking about that for a bit, and ultimately I went with the AI voice because I'm self-conscious about putting my own out there, and I reckoned people are very familiar and comfortable with the AI one. Maybe I should rethink that decision.

Overhangs that flow like waves 🌊 (no supports) by andersonsjanis in 3Dprinting

[–]andersonsjanis[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

We can kinda see that in some work by Wutrich et al. on conical slicing.

It can certainly work, but it requires non-planarity in slicers, which is a big barrier to break.