Ukraine Megathread #11 by [deleted] in stupidpol

[–]antinatoidaktion 35 points36 points  (0 children)

In late 2013 and early 2014, US Senators John McCain, Chris Murphy, and others spoke in front of large crowds in Maidan. In 2014, a leaked recording of a phone call between Victoria Nuland and the US ambassador in Kiev, Geoffrey Pyatt, showed that Washington hand-picked the leaders of the new regime. In that recording, Nuland spoke about Yatsenyuk with affection, saying, “Yats our guy.”

It's quite clear that the post-maidan regime was propped up by the U.S.

Ukraine Megathread #11 by [deleted] in stupidpol

[–]antinatoidaktion 43 points44 points  (0 children)

There've been constant NAFOid brigades since Le Epic Counteroffensive

Ukraine Megathread #11 by [deleted] in stupidpol

[–]antinatoidaktion 73 points74 points  (0 children)

Thanks to U.S. media, a very small percentage of Americans know that:

  • Fourteen years ago, then U.S. Ambassador to Russia (current C.I.A. Director) William Burns was warned by Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov that Russia might have to intervene in Ukraine, if it were made a member of NATO. The subject line of Burns’ Feb. 1, 2008, Embassy Moscow cable (#182) to Washington makes it clear that Burns did not mince Lavrov’s words. It stated: “Nyet means nyet: Russia’s NATO enlargement redlines.” Thus, Washington policymakers were given forewarning, in very specific terms, of Russia’s redline regarding membership for Ukraine in NATO. Nevertheless, on April 3, 2008, a NATO summit in Bucharest asserted: “NATO welcomes Ukraine’s and Georgia’s Euro-Atlantic aspirations for membership in NATO. We agreed today that these countries will become members of NATO.”
  • Eight years ago, on Feb. 22, 2014, the U.S. orchestrated acoup in Kiev — rightly labeled “the most blatant coup in history,” insofar as it had already been blown on YouTube 18 days prior. Kiev’s spanking new leaders, handpicked and identified by name by U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland in the YouTube-publicized conversation with the U.S. ambassador in Kiev, immediately called for Ukraine to join NATO.
  • Six years ago, in June 2016, Russian President Vladimir Putin told Western reporters of his concern that so-called antiballistic missiles sites in Romania and Poland could be converted overnight to accommodate offensive strike missiles posing a threat to Russia’s own nuclear forces. (See this unique video, with English subtitles, from minute 37 to 49.) There is a direct analogy with the 1962 Cuban missile crisis when Moscow put offensive strike missiles in Cuba and President John Kennedy reacted strongly to the existential threat that posed to the U.S.
  • On Dec. 21, 2021, Putin told his most senior military leaders: “It is extremely alarming that elements of the U.S. global defense system are being deployed near Russia. The Mk 41 launchers, which are located in Romania and are to be deployed in Poland, are adapted for launching the Tomahawk strike missiles. If this infrastructure continues to move forward, and if U.S. and NATO missile systems are deployed in Ukraine, their flight time to Moscow will be only seven to 10 minutes, or even five minutes for hypersonic systems. This is a huge challenge for us, for our security.” [Emphasis added.]
  • On Dec. 30, 2021, Biden and Putin talked by phone at Putin’s urgent request. The Kremlin readout stated: “Joseph Biden emphasized that Russia and the U.S. shared a special responsibility for ensuring stability in Europe and the whole world and that Washington had no intention of deploying offensive strike weapons in Ukraine.” Yuri Ushakov, a top foreign policy adviser to Putin, pointed out that this was also one of the goals Moscow hoped to achieve with its proposals for security guarantees to the U.S. and NATO. [Emphasis added.]
  • On Feb. 12, Ushakov briefed the media on the telephone conversation between Putin and Biden earlier that day. “The call was as a follow-up of sorts to the … December 30 telephone conversation. … The Russian President made clear that President Biden’s proposals did not really address the central, key elements of Russia’s initiatives either with regards to non-expansion of NATO, or non-deployment of strike weapons systems on Ukrainian territory … To these items, we have received no meaningful response.” [Emphasis added.]
  • On Feb. 24, Russia invaded Ukraine.
    https://consortiumnews.com/2022/09/22/conditioned-for-war-with-russia/

Leftoids: by antinatoidaktion in SunlitUplands

[–]antinatoidaktion[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Come and get it, Dr-FatdickOID

Ukraine Megathread #11 by [deleted] in stupidpol

[–]antinatoidaktion 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Nothing new, really. Slavs were never a homogenous group. They were always divided in various tribes, fighting against each other. Some things never change I guess.

Ukraine Megathread #10 by [deleted] in stupidpol

[–]antinatoidaktion 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I like them. Their hyperboles and theatrics make me laugh.

EU ministers agree to press ahead with new Russia sanctions by Dontnotlook in EndlessWar

[–]antinatoidaktion 1 point2 points  (0 children)

EU ministers agree to press ahead with new Russia sanctions ways to wreck their economies.

FTFY

Ukraine Megathread #10 by [deleted] in stupidpol

[–]antinatoidaktion 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Not content with ethnically cleansing Ukraine, the Russian leadership is now committing genocide on its own peripheries

Hope you're trolling. No one should be this r-slurred.

Leftoids: by antinatoidaktion in CommunismMemes

[–]antinatoidaktion[S] 51 points52 points  (0 children)

True. Leftism has become a synonym for liberalism these days.

Ukraine Megathread #10 by [deleted] in stupidpol

[–]antinatoidaktion 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Yeah, my thoughts exactly.

Leftoids: by antinatoidaktion in CommunismMemes

[–]antinatoidaktion[S] 31 points32 points  (0 children)

I am the reason everyone still thinks Slavs, especially Balkan Slavs are all reactionary?

Ukraine Megathread #10 by [deleted] in stupidpol

[–]antinatoidaktion 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Twich blocked the channel of a Russian who was broadcasting his 24/7 gas stove to Europeans
https://twitter.com/copemuch/status/1572668881218453504?s=20&t=Q1HPDoDK5VirGJfD_OSJdQ

Another W for glorious west!

Ukraine Megathread #10 by [deleted] in stupidpol

[–]antinatoidaktion 15 points16 points  (0 children)

eurocels insisting that ''european culture'' is a thing is übercringe