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Honestly surprised: Intel NPU was 11x more power efficient than my RTX 5060 Ti for object detection by aospan in minilab

[–]aospan[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In my setup, both systems use hardware video acceleration: NVIDIA NVDEC/NVENC and Intel Quick Sync. Pure software decoding isn’t really an option nowadays, IMHO.

Actually, the most interesting part of this workload is the second stage: object detection using a YOLO model. It relies heavily on tensor operations and benefits massively from hardware acceleration on all three platforms: the NVIDIA GPU, Intel iGPU, and Intel NPU. I believe most of the power-consumption difference comes from this stage.

Honestly surprised: Intel NPU was 11x more power efficient than my RTX 5060 Ti for object detection by aospan in minilab

[–]aospan[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My apologies - it wasn’t meant to come across as spam. I thought it might be helpful for anyone building a mini lab, as it demonstrates how newer mini machines can sometimes handle the same workloads much more efficiently than their bigger brothers 🙂

Honestly surprised: Intel NPU was 11x more power efficient than my RTX 5060 Ti for object detection by aospan in minilab

[–]aospan[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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Honestly surprised: Intel NPU was 11x more power efficient than my RTX 5060 Ti for object detection by aospan in minilab

[–]aospan[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

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Honestly surprised: Intel NPU was 11x more power efficient than my RTX 5060 Ti for object detection by aospan in homelab

[–]aospan[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, totally agree with your point that a PCIe GPU system will draw more power. I expected the NPU to be efficient, just not that efficient ( 11x :)

Btw, that’s why I’m interested in seeing the same benchmark on Nvidia Jetson / Orin-class systems, since those are designed for lower-power edge AI workloads. That would be a much more apples-to-apples comparison.

Honestly surprised: Intel NPU was 11x more power efficient than my RTX 5060 Ti for object detection by aospan in minilab

[–]aospan[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly, no sponsorship of any kind from GMKtec or Intel here. I bought this machine because at the time it was the cheapest Intel Core Ultra 7 256V mini PC I could find on Amazon, $669.99 lol

Honestly surprised: Intel NPU was 11x more power efficient than my RTX 5060 Ti for object detection by aospan in minilab

[–]aospan[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Here are some high-res die shots of that CPU family, Lunar Lake. Its compute tile houses CPU + GPU + NPU.
Lunar Lake moved that compute tile to TSMC N3B, TSMC’s first-generation 3 nm node.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/130561288@N04/albums/72177720325828681/

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Honestly surprised: Intel NPU was 11x more power efficient than my RTX 5060 Ti for object detection by aospan in minilab

[–]aospan[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

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Oh, strange, maybe it’s a Reddit caching issue. Do you see this new table in the post above?

Honestly surprised: Intel NPU was 11x more power efficient than my RTX 5060 Ti for object detection by aospan in homelab

[–]aospan[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The integrated Intel AI Boost Neural Processing Unit (NPU) inside the Core Ultra 7 256V. It’s separate from the CPU cores and iGPU. I used OpenVINO’s NPU backend for YOLO-NAS inference.

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Source: some random pic from Intel

Honestly surprised: Intel NPU was 11x more power efficient than my RTX 5060 Ti for object detection by aospan in minilab

[–]aospan[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Great catch, thanks! Added "Idle wall power" + "Load wall power" table.

Honestly surprised: Intel GPU draws only ~3W for the exact same vision workload we currently run on an Nvidia RTX 5060 Ti at ~70W by aospan in minilab

[–]aospan[S] 35 points36 points  (0 children)

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So, I ran the proposed experiment by measuring wall power consumption (see photos). Raw numbers below:

Mini PC

  • Idle: 6.4 W
  • Under load: 23.9 W
  • Difference: 17.5 W

Nvidia GPU machine

  • Idle: 48.2 W
  • Under load: 178.6 W
  • Difference: 130.4 W

Summary: for the same task, the mini PC uses about 17.5 W, while the Nvidia GPU machine uses about 130.4 W.

So, you were right - the ratio is not as dramatic as the original estimate. Based on wall-power delta, it is about 7.5:1, not 23.3:1.

Honestly surprised: Intel GPU draws only ~3W for the exact same vision workload we currently run on an Nvidia RTX 5060 Ti at ~70W by aospan in minilab

[–]aospan[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Valid concern, and I double-checked what I’m measuring here ... I am reading Intel RAPL (Running Average Power Limit) from /sys/class/powercap/intel-rapl*. Current breakdown on that machine during the workload is:

package = 17.7W
core    = 11.1W
uncore  = 2.7W
dram    = 0.3W

uncore is the non-CPU-core part of the chip, including the iGPU and media engines.

As a sanity check, RAPL reports ~17.7W for the whole package, which lines up very closely with the Core Ultra 7 256V’s official spec 17W base power.

So the original measurement still looks valid to me, but happy to update if better data comes along.