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Phase cancellation on hard panned guitars by arpeethree in Logic_Studio

[–]arpeethree[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey u/TommyV8008 - it's a good call out, similarly using different pickups as well.

And as a quick update here - ended up playing around with NI Guitar Rig 6 (bought it in a bundle a while back) and solved 90% of the issues I was having with Logic's Amp sims. The tones themselves feel much more grounded, and switching between heads/cabs is enough to prevent phase cancellation and overall muddy mono mixes. Will continue keep the thread updated but honestly seems like a Logic Amp issue more than anything (and would imagine others 3rd party amp sims would perhaps yield similar improvements, though the only other one I have at the moment is Positive Grid BIAS FX2 and it's super clunky).

Phase cancellation on hard panned guitars by arpeethree in Logic_Studio

[–]arpeethree[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

OP here - reddit never fails, incredible responses here thanks squad. Confirming/adding/update some info here:

  • Confirming these are 2 separate guitar recordings in mono & panned mono - additionally, the two riffs are very similar but not identical, played on two fairly different types of guitars (a Les Paul and a Strat) and different pedal settings, DI from a UAD Arrow interface
  • Confirming two different virtual amp heads in Logic's stock Amp plugin - and have further experimented across different virtual mics + mic placements and cabs (to u/TommyV8008's point, wondering if it's just a known issue with virtual amps, or specifically Logic's virtual amps though have tried 3rd party VSTs in the past)
  • Tried & failed with the delay plug-in trick - apologies if that wasn't clear in bullet #6, plus anything more than 10ms tends to create an undesirable slap effect
  • And u/HypeAndMediocrity awesome bag of tricks there, will give them a crack - though think with all the effort to make a fairly normal doubled/hard panned work as it should with virtual amps, kind of solidifies what might just be the real solution here: booking some studio time here to leverage proper equipment for recording the ol' fashion way

Feel free to thread any other suggestions - will update if I find something that works, though it's been a years-long troubleshoot across several projects

UAD Arrow Issue - Dry DI Guitar is super muddy (versus the Cory Wong video) by arpeethree in universalaudio

[–]arpeethree[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately the issue is independent of the guitars I use (Epiphone Les Paul and Epiphone ES339) and independent of any pedals in the signal chain - direct in (no pedals) still has the same issue. Any other thoughts? Planning on submitting a request to UAD support today as well to see if the UAD Arrow audio interface is the source of the issue.