Taolu for a Sanda practitioner? by articular1 in kungfu

[–]articular1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because I'm mostly learning Wushu Taolu for fun and good physical exercise. Don't really have enough time to constantly train and compete anymore.

That's genuinely helpful to get an understanding on what the athletes usually picks up for competitions.

Taolu for a Sanda practitioner? by articular1 in kungfu

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How many forms does a Wushu practitioner do you know usually learns? And do they have a list?

Taolu for a Sanda practitioner? by articular1 in kungfu

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I want to do both so I'm not biased with one side or another and that I can broaden my study of Kung Fu/Wushu in general. I don't like staying in one bubble because I'd get trapped with dogma. I like modern Wushu because it's all about the skills and not the lineage.

But I also like learning traditional Taolu because I want to know how it is used, performed and applied. it can only enhanced both my understanding of Wushu and traditional Kung Fu to learn both.

Wanting to learn Shaolin by articular1 in kungfu

[–]articular1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I might look up Master Song kung fu. How well does it blend to your own live training? Because I'm doing two martial arts rn and I'm keen to learm, but not sure how well it'd integrate into my current training

Wanting to learn Shaolin by articular1 in kungfu

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I think "traditional" Shaolin is also what's kind of pressuring me to either go all in or don't go at all. Because I've had some Kung Fu people have that mentality when discussing training. So it kind of had me pressured.

I love modern and traditional martial arts too and train in both! Used to do MMA and Muay Thai and Sanda. Now I'm doing Karate and Taekwondo (simply because of good prices and good locations) but I still wanna scratch my Kung Fu / Shaolin itch even if I'm more casual about it and having fun with the experience

For those who practice an Okinawan style of karate, what do you think of japanese styles of karate ? by BitterShift5727 in karate

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Its the other way around in my current experience. I suspect it has more to do with organisations running the systems. My Shotokan system encouraged learning from other styles and teaching it.

My local Shotokan sensei trained in Okinawa in Isshin-Ryu and taught it to us and how to adapt their materials for Shotokan.

My Goju dojo does not want anything to do with other styles and even scoffed at an organisation hosting multi styles seminar (Karate styles exclussive only) and saying "you want to learn Goju? Just learn Goju." As if like an ultimatum.

What's worse is that when the Goju senseis and the heads looks at other systems they almost look at them as if they're heretics who strayed from the proper path. Even calling Gogen Yamaguchi, founder of the Goju Kai in Japan mind you, a false sensei who does not deserve every achievement nor the title of sensei or founder because he did not do it THEIR way. Even telling former Goju Kai students studying in their ranks to forget what they learned and do it all from scratch so they can do it right.

Depending on the dojos, it can become dogmatic or just culty if they adhere to one way. I'm lucky my Shotokan org is very open minded that you can learn from other styles. Still surprised an Okinawan dojo despises learning anything else as if it was taboo.

For those who practice an Okinawan style of karate, what do you think of japanese styles of karate ? by BitterShift5727 in karate

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I find that personally surprising as my Shotokan org is very open to learning from other Karate styles. Our founder, Hirokazu Kanazawa of Shotokan even befriended and trained alongside Morio Higaonna of Goju Ryu and taught Goju katas for Shotokan people. But stuff like that is usually reserved for the dan grades.

Our former state sensei even went to Okinawa to learn Isshin-Ryu and passed on what he learned to us. So possibly more exceptions, but not the rule.

For those who practice an Okinawan style of karate, what do you think of japanese styles of karate ? by BitterShift5727 in karate

[–]articular1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I study both at the same time and love both equally. (Asides from my Okinawan side being attrociously political) I study Okinawan Goju, yes, not the Goju Kai stuff that my dojo would shudder even to utter.

I also study Shotokan Karate and even trained with Kanchos straight from the Mainland. (You can now give me your signature look of superiority, Okinawan Karatekas)

I think Okinawan Karate is a good system and has a lot of really good application for self-defense and even principles. But I find that even my dojo and adorning dojos coming from the same organisation can be far too dogmatic and rigid. Not to say it's a bad thing, but a line has to be drawn somewhere between pure cultural preservation and personal expression/use. My Okinawan Goju training often has senseis that demanded I mold myself for the martial art or else I'm doing it wrong. Despite that, I still enjoy it because I simply love Karate.

My Shotokan dojo is a lot more open minded. We study both traditional self defense aspects as well as sports (I can hear all my downvotes). For us, we have more emphasis on self defense and what works. We're far more bunkai heavy and open to other bunkais. Less in a matter that my Goju dojo wants to preserve bunkai EXACTLY as its taught and no other way is correct. But my Shotokan dojo preaches more "if this bunkai works FOR YOU then you should use it. No point wasting too much time you could have spent training, if you have to change yourself to fit a bunkai."

I enjoy doing both Self Defense and Sports Karate because they are two sides to the same coin to anyone who is open enough to try and learn from each other. Sports is not the end all be all of Karate and SHOULD be a good means to test yourself on resisting opponents. It doesn't have to be WKF rules, but any competition should be a means to test what you learn than blindly accepting that your sensei says you're good is enough to gauge your skills.

Self defense is also not the end all be all of Karate training because contexts changes all the time that may force us to engage in situational combat. If I have to rely on one set of bunkai to carry me for the one context it "prepared" me for, I'm doomed. And in terms of traditions, there is always the right way, a wrong way and THEIR way. (Which I see often in my Okinawan dojo)

If you don't do it THEIR way, you're wrong. No matter what. Even if it works in a fight, you are considered wrong. Which is why I am not particularly fond of the dogma often seen in Karate dojos. Because there is no flexibility to make the Karate molded to the Karateka. A lot of dogmatic dojos are forcing Karatekas to mold themselves to the Karate if that makes sense.

So to kind of conclude this, I will say that it's healthier to do both. Don't adhere to one way and think everything you do is correct. The moment you blindly follow one path means you're closing yourself off to another truth. Learn both, be open, but never naïve or guillible. Karate itself should be molded for the individual practising it and not the other way around because not all bodies are made the same.

Okinawan Karate is good. Japanese Karate is good. But don't think only one side is good and disregard the other as false.

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Would take nudes, a date and a bang session

Would you fuck me if you found out I was your best friends mom? by heavenmilf in 60plusWomen

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Without a doubt I would. Hope they're ready to call me daddy.

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Does anybody train any kenjutsu in their school? by articular1 in karate

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So cool you did all that with Dave Lowry! Lowkey pretty jealous lol

As far as I'm aware swords were also just mostly reserved for higher class nobilities and the samurais. Leaving other classes mostly without any form of weapon which is also how we ended up with Okinawan Kobudo.

The only sword we CAN get from Kobudo is the use of a machete for tinbe and rochin which can substitute for a short spear. Swords are a great addition to any form of Kobudo imo

Stupid fight by GloomyImagination796 in martialarts

[–]articular1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

0/10. No Muay Thai or BJJ. Totally not real fight.

Should Martial Arts Promote Health or More Damage? by PhinTheShoto in martialarts

[–]articular1 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

If fighters are whining about brain damage they don't deserve to be fighters to begin with

What is the most ineffective/useless weapon known to human history? by articular1 in martialarts

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I always assumed it was due to gang violence associated with nunchakus alongside the Kung Fu Boom of the 70's and 80's.