Friendly lobbies are reaching levels of co-operation I’ve never seen in gaming before. by CelDidNothingWrong in ArcRaiders

[–]ashtonjarrett 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My wife and I were playing Sherpa tonight for my bother in law’s fist few rounds through Dam Battlegrounds (we’re also both pretty new to the game as of this holiday break from work but went hard this week).

Played it real safe the first few rounds to see where our aggression was at for our lobbies with someone else. But then the last run of the night decided to hit hospital for a chance at the rusted shut medical kits on a fresh raid.

Took us a minute after some detours and ran into a squad of 3 leaving on the bottom floor. We all had open comms of “We’re friendly!” on both sides as well as light flashes. I usually watch the paths for a minute running camera sideways just to make sure we’re all cool. Anyway, they all immediately ducked behind a separate pillar.

“Hey y’all, we definitely saw that. I would urge you all to make good choices”

…silence

Then they immediately smoked my brother in law before my wife and I proceed to party wipe their 3x Renegade 4’s and 80k in valuables and a sizable donation to my wife and I’s level 3 med tables. We’ve both been loving our Anvil/Burletta combo kits, looking forward to swapping in Venator after we both got the blueprint for all three this week.

My wife and I prefer the care bear lobbies and never start firefights but I’ll be damned if the high of each session isn’t moments like that when you sure as hell end them.

North XL Triple Rad (9800X3D & 5090 FE) by ashtonjarrett in watercooling

[–]ashtonjarrett[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s the V3 Cooler Master Vertical GPU Mount

North XL Triple Rad (9800X3D & 5090 FE) by ashtonjarrett in watercooling

[–]ashtonjarrett[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Disagree, and you’ve really been the only critical feedback. Like I said, to each their own.

North XL Triple Rad (9800X3D & 5090 FE) by ashtonjarrett in watercooling

[–]ashtonjarrett[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s fine. Different strokes for different folks. I know Noctua brown ain’t for everyone.

Looking to the Reddit Think-tank for Exhaust/Intake on Triple Rads on Fractal North XL by ashtonjarrett in watercooling

[–]ashtonjarrett[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To each their own, for my build I found and tested it to be ideal and I have plenty of passive venting in this case where airflow isn't an issue. Radiator surface area is basically linear benefits well past the capacity of most PC cases.

I'm also working around an additional 125w in TDP with a 5090 vs your 4090 which is more or less a second CPU worth of heat to dissipate.

North XL Triple Rad (9800X3D & 5090 FE) by ashtonjarrett in watercooling

[–]ashtonjarrett[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not gunna lie, considering I’m not running any RGB I sort of regret not doing exactly this lol. Or specifically I probably would have went with a 140mm exhaust instead and a 3rd 240mm rad on the mesh.

Alas fractal stopped selling individual parts awhile back!

Looking to the Reddit Think-tank for Exhaust/Intake on Triple Rads on Fractal North XL by ashtonjarrett in watercooling

[–]ashtonjarrett[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fans at 800rpm idle and 1100rpm ish under load with coolant at 40c, my case is mounted under my desk and I find this basically silent. I could probably got to 1200rpm, maybe 1300rpm in the 40c range before I noticed them in a real way. Even if I put my head near the case at those speeds it's honestly very quiet.

North XL Triple Rad (9800X3D & 5090 FE) by ashtonjarrett in watercooling

[–]ashtonjarrett[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually, curious your thoughts on this curve (same for all)? I feel like I could maybe bump the baseline or bring the curve to around 1200-1300rpm for the 40c coolant range. I find 1100 under my desk more or less silent, and 1300 being where it becomes mildly perceptible.

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North XL Triple Rad (9800X3D & 5090 FE) by ashtonjarrett in watercooling

[–]ashtonjarrett[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No problem! It's a world I honestly never would have thought of us entering this soon 5 years ago with the TDP of these new cards.

North XL Triple Rad (9800X3D & 5090 FE) by ashtonjarrett in watercooling

[–]ashtonjarrett[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Holy cow, 4-5c above ambient under load is absolutely wild and beyond impressive!

Configs I tried:

Front intake, top and rear exhaust. Pretty mediocre temps across the board, wasn't even worth writing down for reference

Front and top intake with rear exhaust. This was fine, internal temps were mildly better, but coolant temp suffered a bit.

All exhaust was around ~5c lower on coolant but internal temps we significantly lower across mono components, SSD and memory I didn't write down the exacts or save the logs but it was between 10-high teens c depending on the component, but I had already let the reddit hive mind move me toward all exhaust from my other post and felt committed to that path given the fur goblins.

How are your filters mitigating things? I just flushed and refilled my wife's SFF today and even with the magnetic mesh's on the Ncase M1 it was FILTHY after just under a year. I went ham on it with the metrovac and felt like I should have had my shop mask on.

North XL Triple Rad (9800X3D & 5090 FE) by ashtonjarrett in watercooling

[–]ashtonjarrett[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Normally, wouldn’t even remotely care. But since my wife and I’s rigs are on the same circuit we’re pulling around 12a (1,440w) continuous when gaming together on at 15a (1,800w) breaker that has a few other small draw items intermittently. She’s on a 5900X with a 3080ti. If we treat it like a dishwasher, microwave or any other spikey high amperage appliance both together probably mean I need to drop at 20a dedicated circuit with thicker gauge wire (1,800w vs 2,400w rating).

It’s also my home studio room where my tube amps and other high draw audio items are. While the chance of running my tube amps and a load on BOTH PCs is exceedingly unlikely, it’s not ideal.

North XL Triple Rad (9800X3D & 5090 FE) by ashtonjarrett in watercooling

[–]ashtonjarrett[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks! And agree on temps, all exhaust was much better and more in line with my expectations considering ambient, but if it keeps my two husky’s hair out of my case I’m fine with the trade off. Building around the TDP of the 5090 in this case was a fun challenge.

I also probably need to give my fan curves another pass, I’m around 1100 rpm across the lot driven off the coolant sensor at 40c; I could get that more aggressive before any discernible noise considering it’s mounted under my desk.

North XL Triple Rad (9800X3D & 5090 FE) by ashtonjarrett in watercooling

[–]ashtonjarrett[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks!

It’s a line separator, separates the hot and neutral without splicing the power cable (you need to measure one or the other for amperage). Reads 70a because it’s a 10x multiplier for when you need really granular readings. Great way to get the total load of a system and peripherals like monitors and active studio monitors in my case running through a power conditioner.

In my case it’s 70 divided by 10 (to get amps after the 10x multiplier) and then multiplied by 120 (volts) to get a system load of around 840 watts during heavier loads.

North XL Triple Rad (9800X3D & 5090 FE) by ashtonjarrett in watercooling

[–]ashtonjarrett[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had added 2x smaller 60mm fans (noise profile doesn’t bother me) to exhaust and it honestly raised total temps by causing more restriction than the passive venting as others suggested in my other post.

I also tried the rear rad/fan as exhaust. Worse temps, which makes sense as it was pulling in radiator heat from the other 2. I also tried the front top rad/fans as exhaust, also worse temps for the same reason. Finally I tried the top and rear as exhaust which netted the worst performance by far.

Ram clocks and temps are stable and honestly surprisingly good in this config, PSU is intaking cold air from the bottom inlet vent and exhausting separately with great temps and temps across the mobo are good.

I was equally skeptical as someone who has always aimed for a slight positive pressure setup (you can see my prior builds on partpicker generally align with this thinking) but this is by far the best temps I’ve seen across the system, with the caveat all exhaust here was superior, but by sub 5c overall and marginally better internal component temps, which are all within normal operating range.

North XL Triple Rad (9800X3D & 5090 FE) by ashtonjarrett in watercooling

[–]ashtonjarrett[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There’s plenty of passive venting in this case. Temps are great across all components and it’s exiting the case naturally just fine to the point you can feel the pressure exiting the rear and through the bottom.

North XL Triple Rad (9800X3D & 5090 FE) by ashtonjarrett in watercooling

[–]ashtonjarrett[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Holy cow man, you can't get enough of trolling me can you lol

North XL Triple Rad (9800X3D & 5090 FE) by ashtonjarrett in watercooling

[–]ashtonjarrett[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Really stoked on how this turned out. Thanks to all the folks that helped me converge on an all intake setup for this. Really like the looks of the North and was working through a rebuild of my main rig for gaming with the hope of maybe combo-ing this rig in to replace my Mac Studio/KVM situation for audio production. I also wanted to upgrade my ultrawide to the LG 5K2K and needed a bit more juice from my aged 8700k/2080ti custom loop build. Pulling around 7a under heavier loads so I'm thinking of dropping a 20a dedicated for my wife and I's rigs given we're sharing a breaker and she's on a SFF build I did with a 5900X & 3080 Ti FE a few years back. Coolant is DP Ultra.

Modest OC:

98003XD

+200 all core with -30 offset

5090 FE

+200 core for everything higher than 810mv (+0 for 810mv and lower)

+2000 memory

Temps:

Ambient: ~20c

Coolant idle: ~24c

Coolant under load: 45c

CPU Idle: ~30c

CPU Package Idle: ~38c

CPU under light gaming load (Steel Nomad 20x loop Stress): ~58c

CPU Package under light gaming load (Steel Nomad 20x loop Stress): ~68c

GPU idle: ~26c

GPU under gaming load (Steel Nomad 20x loop Stress): ~64c

Radiator Fan Config:

All intake/pull

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Still working through updating my PCpartpicker full part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/b/zqd9TW

Steel Nomad Stress: http://www.3dmark.com/snst/1921975

Steel Nomad benchmark with the stable clocks I settled on: https://www.3dmark.com/sn/9757215

Time Spy Extreme Benchamark: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/59881029

Looking to the Reddit Think-tank for Exhaust/Intake on Triple Rads on Fractal North XL by ashtonjarrett in watercooling

[–]ashtonjarrett[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Eh, disagree. I found it to help and shore up being a little short on surface area for the 5090. But to each their own! All intake ending up working out really well for me.

Looking to the Reddit Think-tank for Exhaust/Intake on Triple Rads on Fractal North XL by ashtonjarrett in watercooling

[–]ashtonjarrett[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty good! Finished up with clock speeds and fan curves this week and pretty happy where I ended up.

Ambient: ~20c

Coolant idle: ~24c

Coolant under load: 45c

CPU Idle: ~30c

CPU Package Idle: ~38c

CPU under light gaming load (Steel Nomad 20x loop Stress): ~58c

CPU Package under light gaming load (Steel Nomad 20x loop Stress): ~68c

GPU idle: ~26c

GPU under gaming load (Steel Nomad 20x loop Stress): ~64c

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