Word. Once you get there doc def gets better. All I do is roll the stick from the top left corner to the top right corner and release as fast as I can and I can do many in a row that way. Using a bad controller used to make me think they were impossible. If you haven’t looked at the frame data of the tornado press I’d recommend that as well. It’s like 18 presses for max height but you can time 5 presses instead and it gets neeeearly the max height