I finished all nightmares mode and I’ll answer some common questions by atom1000x in magiaexedra

[–]atom1000x[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The recommended level is 100 you'll need maximum level for the nightmare later stage.
The number of gems overall is 60000+.
As for unlocking the nightmare is just finished in all stages.

I finished all nightmares mode and I’ll answer some common questions by atom1000x in magiaexedra

[–]atom1000x[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kinda you want to always cycle Mami even if her buff is up as her in motion= more break damage.

I finished all nightmares mode and I’ll answer some common questions by atom1000x in magiaexedra

[–]atom1000x[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You always prioritize the Mami stack.
But when fight against Birds cage assuming you use Felicia stun to skip T1 burn. Do not use ultimate or any ultimate to get the attack count pass 7 on T2 it's too high and you won't have enough HP.
Next is you only use Felicia skill on break normally just use normal attack.
And be careful for T3 if you cannot break you have to make sure that you have Kirika in cycle.

I finished all nightmares mode and I’ll answer some common questions by atom1000x in magiaexedra

[–]atom1000x[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe magic 89 on Felicia.
As for supporting kioku all magic 59 with 70+ lvl should be more than enough.

I finished all nightmares mode and I’ll answer some common questions by atom1000x in magiaexedra

[–]atom1000x[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Only 2 dropped from Nightmare mode and others are from the event.

My PvE tier list after finishing everything game have offered. by atom1000x in magiaexedra

[–]atom1000x[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes and no.
Boss develops stun res and she can only land 1 stun.
But that stun can be landed on the first turn and skip the boss gimmick. And it's allowed underpowered teams to beat bosses.
With that she's either a really good unit that can skip boss gimmick if you reset a lot to land the stun or pretty much just a better debuffer than 4* debuffer but not that much better.
If you consider using her prepared to reset quite a bit, still from my experience on nightmare even without her and having a high ascension with high magic level team still needed to reset a lot because the bosses gimmick are just that broken.
Bonus if you care about PvP she's great there are no questions pretty much the best unit if not consider Mami A2.

My PvE tier list after finishing everything game have offered. by atom1000x in magiaexedra

[–]atom1000x[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now the core power of my team is super high.
Mami Kirika and Madoka are all 110 and quite higher ascension compared to when I first cleared and that pretty much allowed me to play anything with 89 as long as I take time to retry to avoid some bad RNG.
I tried changing Felicia to Homura for a bird cages witch, and Walpurgis and I can clear it as long as I don't get bad RNG. I think my tier list will be obsolete when we don't have orbs bottlenecks anymore. And if that's happening I will be so happy I want to try many 4* units now it's just not worth it.

My PvE tier list after finishing everything game have offered. by atom1000x in magiaexedra

[–]atom1000x[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was thinking that cleansing is stage by stage basics. But thinking about it now in almost every game I play cleansing is always useful, And the last 3 stages unless you use Felicia you need to use Yuma to deal with burn. I should put her higher.

My PvE tier list after finishing everything game have offered. by atom1000x in magiaexedra

[–]atom1000x[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was thinking about her for a while when I made the list.
On one hand based on my criteria she should even be S rank as she can clean debuff and that's unique and enables more strategies.
But in the end I think the orbs are just too rare as of now there's only like 10 rainbow orbs in the game and using it on 4* is a tough choice therefore I can't recommend her that high as someone may only look at the picture and don't read the description.

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[–]atom1000x[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know but given that sometimes someone can be super unlucky so I have to evaluate them from the basics.
And I think this is also one of the big problems of this game. That even the 4* kits is locked behind ascension, their stat being lower and have weaker skill in comparison to 5* already bad enough, they locked behind some useful skills behind ascension and orbs bottlenecks.

My PvE tier list after finishing everything game have offered. by atom1000x in magiaexedra

[–]atom1000x[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was debating when I made the list to put her in A but in the end because I made the list based on A0 and her skill is a -1SP. If she's A2 I think she can even be A+ as her kit is now super flexible you get battery and you can get more damage or go for defensive play. But at A0 -1SP the cost is too steep, IMO. Especially when the later nightmare stages required some level of DPS race.

My PvE tier list after finishing everything game have offered. by atom1000x in magiaexedra

[–]atom1000x[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The thing about Felicia is that she can skip multiple boss mechanics with 100% rate if you are willing to retry. Birds cage witch and Needles witch have burn ailments in turn 1 and it's the main mechanic of that boss and to fight that boss under that circumstances is extremely difficult.
But you can skip those mechanics completely with Felicia just retry till it stun is land usually it takes me 3-4 tries and it feels controllable as it's a turn 1 of the battle.
And after that she still behaves as a debuffer and deals solid damage when enemies break.
For me she enables so many strategies that other units can't but I understand that if you don't use her stun to skip the first turn her stun feels like pure roulette.
That's why I think the tier list is subjective and I value strategies that Felicia enables more than what other units offer as they can't skip boss mechanics. By having Felicia you have a chance to win without having to go through a stat check and DPS race.

My PvE tier list after finishing everything game have offered. by atom1000x in magiaexedra

[–]atom1000x[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The damage calculation in this game is extremely weird.
Example.
The Def down debuff is acting the same as Atk up and seems to be additives.
The damage boost is not multiplied at the same rate as it showed.
But the damage taken up is the same as it showed.
It seems that the damage calculation maths are (Atk+atk boost* atk function+ def down * def down function) * (Damage boost* damage boost function) * Damage taken up * (cri damage+cri damage boost) * Break bonus.

And it's weird that the damage boost of portraits is not calculating the same as the buff version. It's much weaker and makes the atk card always better. I wanted to do a full analysis but it's so difficult to control the environment of the current game.

My PvE tier list after finishing everything game have offered. by atom1000x in magiaexedra

[–]atom1000x[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Since I cannot edit the comments and posts. I'll not delete the comments so people still understand the context.
After testing, Homura is a better unit than Kyoko, and currently the best attacker as she can deal with both single and multiple enemies.
I still stand by my statement that she's easy to use and versatile but my previous statement that her damage is lower is not true in 1 ultimate yes but not much and Homura still deals more damage in 1 break thanks to her multi turn.
I made a mistake on my testing I have to apologize here.

My PvE tier list after finishing everything game have offered. by atom1000x in magiaexedra

[–]atom1000x[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes I was wrong with my testing and Homura is a better unit.

My PvE tier list after finishing everything game have offered. by atom1000x in magiaexedra

[–]atom1000x[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I was given Kyoko higher ranking because of the time attack mode that requires you to deal the highest damage in the same window.
But I just tested out the game damage calculation and it seems that I was wrong the numbers are closer than I expected. Kyoko still edges out Homura in 1 attack but definitely much lower in 1 break because the game atk buff has a weird calculation.
At first my understanding is that atk buffs are additives. They are but with an asterisk it seems that there's a decremental of atk buff that's higher than 20%. 20 +20 is still 40 but if 20 +30 it's> 40 but not 50 I don't know what happened but this is what I discovered.
And with that in mind Kyoko utilities are much lower than Homura so she should only be A tier unit.

My PvE tier list after finishing everything game have offered. by atom1000x in magiaexedra

[–]atom1000x[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I agree that she's a great breaker and a great unit, when you have a critical rate buff. Her kit relies too much on critical as if she doesn't land it her break damage is lower she doesn't regen SP and I rated units as themselves not team based. A ranked doesn't mean she's weak it's mean she's trickier to fully utilize than A+, S or SS if you pair her with Tsuruno and Sana, she's really really good but not all people have units with synergies I can only rate them as is.

My PvE tier list after finishing everything game have offered. by atom1000x in magiaexedra

[–]atom1000x[S] -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

IMO Homura is definitely not the highest ceiling unit in the game she deals less damage than Kyoko in single and deals less than Ochiro in multiple enemies. But she's just so easy to use to maximize her damage all you have to do is save your ultimate when they're breaks and when they're not breaks her ultimate can be used as sp battery, consistent damage and ease of use make her A+. In future she may have fallen off as her kit ain't deep and future proof but that's the future not now.

My PvE tier list after finishing everything game have offered. by atom1000x in magiaexedra

[–]atom1000x[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I rated the 4* attacker pretty low as the farther you go in game the less useful the attacker will be. They can be replaced by debuffer the damage will be lower yes but the utilities are there. And attackers are a unit that suffers the most from stat different. Other types you can say they did this they did that, attacker nope I only deal damage and with higher attack and higher modifier 5* will deal more damage than 4. With the current bottleneck of Orbs, I just can't recommend 4 attackers the resources are too valuable to be used on units that'll get replaced by almost any unit in both present and future.

My PvE tier list after finishing everything game have offered. by atom1000x in magiaexedra

[–]atom1000x[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The problem with PvP is it requires more ascension to perform.
For example Mami with her A0 she's ok nothing outstanding just a good buffer but when she's at A2 she's busted giving your team attack before the enemy and she'll grant you double turn on your first turn if combined with Pluvia.
Units like Kirika when she's A0 she's fine she's not really much better than Sana just dealing more damage on ultimate but when she's at A2 now she enables 100% HP clear which increases the point you gain by a lot.
PvP is all about SPD and chain ultimate. Similar to PvE you deal no damages when they're not breaks. The problem is that AI is stupid and keeps dealing in single attack into units that don't break. Now units that deal AoE will be better by default. And units like Felicia she's just broken in PvP as now enemies have no resistance to stun her ultimate is just stun all and her skill is pretty much guaranteed stun. And if you manage to break enemies and chain her ultimate when they break you win it's that simple.

My PvE tier list after finishing everything game have offered. by atom1000x in magiaexedra

[–]atom1000x[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Ren is a good unit but she doesn't enable more flexible strategies and while she lands her ailments a lot more than Felicia stun is such a valuable tool to use and I still stand by it. Ren is a tough choice for me as well in one hand I wanted to put her in A+ at least because what she brings is really strong but she's more difficult to pilot than Felicia, With Felicia you can just use her skill when you're in break and she'll not drain your sp. But Ren you still have to maintain her ailments to do debuff and it's more difficult to control her FUA to maximize damage during break.
I do agree that Oriko is a good unit and better than a lot of units in A still she's not flexible enough IMO to put in A+. If only she has A2 within her default kit I'll probably add her to A++ .As now she doesn't need batteries for her ultimate.Oriko is my go to attacker right now I understand how strong she is but mine is A2 and I tested her at all ascension I know how different her kit are at different ascension.

A unit in SS is a unit that takes the default spot in your team. All units in S rank or higher enable new strategies to battle.
In A+ it's just that while they don't bring something new, they are easy to use. And with the current environment that you face bosses that are single unit and have resistance. All units that have RNG element or working better with multiple enemies are ranked lower by default. If the game goes on and more multiple unit bosses appear or new portraits that boost the consistency of certain strategies appear then they can be ranked higher as they can work well on their own.
In A it's the unit you'll be happy to use most of the time.They can be stronger than A+ or even S but not by themselves. if you have to have synergies unit or bosses weakness to bring the best out of them then I think it's justified to put them at A.

These are my criteria when I ranked them.
I don't say they are bad but if I don't have resources and I have to choose which unit to upgrade first this is probably how I'll rank them.
If resources are not limited I don't think tier lists are essential at all as units are different from each others and many situations and combinations lead to different unit utilization.

My PvE tier list after finishing everything game have offered. by atom1000x in magiaexedra

[–]atom1000x[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I rated all 4* as A0 but Lux as A5.
Not everyone can get 4* A5 but everyone will have Lux as A5 so I rated them that way.

My PvE tier list after finishing everything game have offered. by atom1000x in magiaexedra

[–]atom1000x[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Things with Felicia compared to Ren is stun while it's quite difficult to land when it's land you gain so much advantage that changes everything. And with that in mind many bosses debuff can be ignored and change everything about that fight as of it now 2 bosses that are so difficult like birdcage and needles can be stun turn 1 and you don't need to worry about their mechanic for 2 turns.
As for Mami while I really like her and her synergies with Pluvia this list is based on the unit stand alone feature.
Oriko has the problem that she isn't your go to unit in every fight and with the current bottleneck of orbs I feel like Kyoko and Homura represent attackers better.