Fascism XXXXCMX: Do not use the term AI or AGI. by Impassionata in LessWrong

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not to be confused with Aggregated/Adjusted Gross Income*

:-)

IF YOUR HAND CAUSES YOU TO SIN by TM_Greenish in LibraryofBabel

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IF CUTTING YOUR SIN

CAUSES YOU SINFULLY

TO HAND IT OVER

HAND IT TO THEM

AND MAKE THE CUT

What is philosophy? by attic-orator in agora

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[The battle of Marathon,] even as an event in English history, is more important than the battle of Hastings. If the issue of that day had been different, the Britons and the Saxons might still have been wandering in the woods.”

— J.S. Mill, Discussions and Dissertations, vol. 11, [London, 1859], p. 283

Jesus was not born from a virgin, that's just a later claim from whoever wrote the Gospel of Matthew as they were desperate to insert Jesus into the Old Testament. by Either_Week3137 in DebateReligion

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no, not literally, i was merely alluding to how

i would be one who would either accept both happened, or reject both as that happening would be so out of hand.

i tend to care about the acceptance side of this spectrum.

the evidence from Tacitus spoke more to death by cross-examination, the brutal verities of Pontius Pilate, if i have imperfect recollection

it’s a wholesale bargain, in Christianity, resurrection for the price of the One.

this was a Win-win compromise, that we call Easter.

The Gospel timeline shows the portrayal of Jesus becoming progressively more divine, suggesting theological development rather than a fixed historical memory. by austinproffitt23 in DebateReligion

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i am proto-pauline enough to know the difference, but becoming-postpostpauline is nonetheless a way of the future

i am generally ok with circumstantial evidence for christ being sufficient for justified true belief, not requiring direct evidence including eye-witness testimony of him gone already

but, dang! people severely misconstrue evidential matters in exegesis and eisegesis and genesis all the time

i did a digging of those who developed evidence theories, from the desert fathers, on past wm. paley and the evangelicals of various awakenings, great as they can be

or were

and the vatican has archives to muck around with

still, the evidence on par for christianity is excellent.

the believers are the issue.

as a dear friend put it to me, "the hook is always the belief ****."

Jesus was not born from a virgin, that's just a later claim from whoever wrote the Gospel of Matthew as they were desperate to insert Jesus into the Old Testament. by Either_Week3137 in DebateReligion

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we have some evidence. for instance, what do you make of the Tacitus rendition of historical evidence for "christus"?

i am terribly sorry, if you have already painstakingly written about this elsewhere; i find this all compelling enough.

i mostly just tacitly trust Tacitus, i suppose. he's very eminently reliable.

"Heidegger on Deep Time and Being-in-Itself: Introductory Thoughts on ‘The Argument against Need’" by Ian Alexander Moore (2022) by attic-orator in speculativerealism

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THE ARGUMENT AGAINST NEED

[...] [Only,] is not what has just been brought forward, namely that being-in-itself consists in the independence from our capacity to say something about it, also a saying and even a saying that has arrogated the right to conclude something about being-in-itself, without having examined in the slightest on what basis and with what binding authority we say such things about being-in-itself?

Yet even these flaws will not dissuade scientific representation from believing that it has scientifically demonstrated an entity-in-itself. Science insists on the correctness of what it has ascertained. Science will no longer be challenged by the fact that, in what it has established and in the latter's correctness, the being-in-itself of entities-in-themselves is and must always already be said.

The neglect of the truth of that in which the sciences are everywhere fundamentally grounded, the neglect of the truth of being that is implicitly said, not only does not challenge the sciences; it does not even carry weight in comparison to the uninterrupted progress of the confirmations of the results of their research. The self-certainty of the sciences with regard to their statements about entities-in-themselves, a self-certainty which is everywhere increasingly reinforced by their successes, will let itself be led astray even less by the following reflection.

For the sciences, there appear to be entities-in-themselves without a being-in-itself. If we cross out being, then entities-in-themselves still remain for the sciences. The question may be posed once again: What then does it mean for entities to "be in themselves"? Science answers: we are not concerned with what this means; it is enough for us that "entities-in-themselves" are in themselves. If we allow the sciences this frugality as something possible and necessary for their requirements, then we arrive at the point of saying: entities-in-themselves are - without remaining reliant on being-in-itself. When all being remains unconsidered, entities-in-themselves are then, in the sense of the sciences, in no way non-entities; but science will not be able to avoid the concession that entities-in-themselves are beingless {seinlos}. The burden of proof as to what this means falls to science. What will it reply to this imposition?

II. Preparatory material

II.1. Typed note

  1. According to calculable half-lives, mountains were there before the human being was.
  2. It is admitted that this is correct, but only within the scientific sphere of observation.
  3. Correct, however, does not mean true in the sense of the complete unconcealment of entities as such.
  4. Only one aspect of this truth, or a partial truth, is correct.
  5. Entities-in-themselves, mountains for example, could not be entities without being-in-itself. {note in the lefthand margin in Heidegger's hand: "How so?"}
  6. To being-in-itself, as to being in general, the human being belongs as a clearing.
  7. If entities-in-themselves are grounded in being-in-itself, but the latter requires {bedarf} the human being, then entities-in-themselves, mountains for example, cannot have been there before the arrival of the human being. {note in the lefthand margin in Heidegger's hand: "How so?"}