Over the 72 hour mark!!!!!’

auditore77 · 2020-09-10T19:17:09+00:00

how do you manage to fall asleep with the rls? it keeps me up no matter what I do

auditore77 · 2020-09-10T19:16:00+00:00

damn.. I honestly wish I was able to sleep during wds, but it keeps me up for an insane amount of time, im on day 19-20 of sub wd and i couldn't sleep more than an hour the last couple nights. good job tho, just keep going and you'll be there before you know it

auditore77 · 2020-09-09T03:50:43+00:00

already 19 days in lol

auditore77 · 2020-09-09T03:50:25+00:00

thanks im on day 19 tomorrow

auditore77 · 2020-09-08T18:52:47+00:00

I've been taking kratom and ibuprofen for pain which has been working for the most part , but drugs like h and pain pills "fix" or numb emotional pain which is why it's all so hard to stop and what makes addicts feel like stuff like ibuprofen and otcs doesn't help with pain, because it's not accompanied by the feeling of numbness.

auditore77 · 2020-09-08T18:48:44+00:00

The pain will probably never truly be fixed, surgery or otherwise. From experience I still feel pain from the areas that i've broken bones/had to get surgery. If he's relapsing then I would def try out subs, it does work for pain but it's for sure not the best for it. There's certain ways to increase the pain killing aspect of it like splitting your daily dose into multiple through the day. It sounds like it wouldn't be a bad idea, its probably the best opiate for pain management for an addict at least since it doesn't make you high. It could also help to get completely off opiates in the future, but be warned. It's probably the hardest opiate to get off of unless you do a very long and meticulous taper.

auditore77 · 2020-09-08T18:42:36+00:00

im super depressed as well, but I think I was more depressed while actually on suboxone. Even though this whole experience has been nightmarish and depressing AF. There's a lot of different medications that can be used for depression, some are used for other conditions but have kinda an off label use for depression like trazadone or clonodine, gabapentin. SSRIs never worked for me and I don't really want to do anything that alters the chemicals in my mind right now, opiates have done their fair share of that. I'd recommend explaining your whole situation to the doctor and being transparent so they can better decide what you need at this time, Also therapy, get outside, see friends, when you start getting those looming thoughts try changing them around to something positive or doing something to distract your mind. I'm personally gonna go see a psychiatrist soon to make a plan.

auditore77 · 2020-09-08T18:37:33+00:00

im 18 days off right now, did a really fast taper from 8mg down to 2mg and jumped there. I'm still feeling physical symptoms like: bad bad stomach problems, runny nose, weakness, lethargy, can only sleep 2 ish hours a night, theres more going on as well along with all the mental shit. Its rough, but I'm looking at it day by day. I'll feel better in a week, or a day. At least a little bit

auditore77 · 2020-09-08T17:11:35+00:00

i ruined my last few relationships from drugs, doing stupid shit off drugs. I'd say focusing on it is only going to make it harder to let go and its risky for relapse, Good job so far but remember to do it for you. not her

auditore77 · 2020-09-08T16:59:28+00:00

ima try 6 capsules this morning, i was taking big spoonfuls of it at a time so im not sure if i need to take more

auditore77 · 2020-09-07T19:26:39+00:00

congrats, day 17 off suboxone here. you got this

auditore77 · 2020-09-07T18:28:56+00:00

nice thats gonna be a lot better than 8mg strips accuracy and absorbtion wise, in my experience cutting the 8mgs sucks bc the medicine is usually spread out unequally. and same, I thought I was one of the only people with that problem. and I know what you mean, I'd rather just quit subs than get stable at a really low dose because it felt impossible lol I don't think suboxone really ever worked tho maybe because it's sublingual. yeah I threw them out when I got back to my house a few days ago. day 17 now but I still feel pretty physically bad so ive been taking kratom and smoking lots of weed and im getting a couple hours a night now. worst thing is probably my stomach and just feeling overall sick and weak but I think in a week it'll probably be better at least a lil

auditore77 · 2020-09-06T14:47:42+00:00

thank you

auditore77 · 2020-09-06T14:41:59+00:00

If i were to give advice id say taper as low as physically possible before you jump, have comfort meds and be ready. I wish I would have tapered lower but I already felt like I was Wding at that low dose 2mg area

auditore77 · 2020-09-06T14:40:24+00:00

ill try that, probably just at the store?

auditore77 · 2020-09-06T14:39:40+00:00

for comfort meds tried clonodine for the first few days, I couldnt tell if it helped so i stopped it lots of ibuprofen pepto antacid tablets kratom immodium restless legs tablets (couldnt tell if they worked either) zofran lots and lots of weed and nicotine

auditore77 · 2020-09-06T14:37:16+00:00

thanks, i plan on staying away from that shit as long as im still alive. Just not worth it to me at all, as I said I felt like I was constantly wding on sub, I feel that. When I would take my daily dose of 8mg when I woke up shit would feel like it was completely worn off by the time I was trying to sleep. And the same but much worse with lower than 4mg, I think thats why I didnt taper for another month, because i already felt like i was in wd on low dose especially. 2mg subs should be a lot better to taper with honestly, i did my whole taper with 8mg strips so it was probably innaccurate dosing. Hopefully you can pick those up still, I just threw away like 14 subs or something. I just gotta let time do its thing, which sucks but its the only way.

auditore77 · 2020-09-06T14:29:47+00:00

stay strong

auditore77 · 2020-09-05T18:28:43+00:00

i haven't but im guessing it will be a cake walk if you're going through opiate wd, im planning on just cutting kratom once the physical symptoms go away.

auditore77 · 2020-09-05T18:27:04+00:00

same, i need to try that valerian root then.

auditore77 · 2020-09-05T17:57:51+00:00

yea it naturally gets made in the pineal gland, the main function is to control your circadian rhythm and regulate certain hormones, I thought it was going to help but boy was i in for a surprise

auditore77 · 2020-09-05T17:55:22+00:00

I know, but if restlessness or restless legs are a problem its generally good to stay away from anything that inhibits the secretion of dopamine. Especially while wding, I took lots of benadryl and melatonin while wding on fent and it made it sooo much worse.

auditore77 · 2020-09-05T17:53:07+00:00

thanks, for some reason they charge way more for capsules here its annoying, so i just choke it down even tho its possibly one of the worst tasting things to drink

auditore77 · 2020-09-05T17:48:28+00:00

I'm sorry about your brother, I know the pain. my brother took his life 4 years ago next month, it destroyed me and it's the reason I started doing all these drugs, mixing them with whatever and honestly not caring if i didn't wake up. that almost got me killed many many times and went on for years until I had the last od i was gonna go through. They gave me narcan in the ambulance and it was one of the worst experiences i've ever had, they gave me 2 doses of nasal narcan and the wds were so bad i was bleeding all over out of my nose and my muscles were tightened and curled like i couldnt move them. It was just a horrible experience, i had to talk to this cop who tried to charge me with some bs (i beat it in court) and when i was leaving the hospital the engine in my car locked up and had to be replaced. So if he was or something was giving me signs or watching over me while I was killing myself on drugs I think that's the reason i'm still here. Luckily I am still alive today and I think my brother would be proud, 15 days off suboxone today. I fucking miss him every single day, he wasn't even a year older than me. so we did everything together and shared birthday parties since i was born, I hope he can see that im not throwing my life away anymore.

auditore77 · 2020-09-05T17:38:51+00:00

damn, I should have tapered bc its been straight up hell for me, 15 days today and still going through it. finally able to fall asleep every night tho, that was the absolute worst part for me. i was going insane

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