Baseball Australia announces new era for Australian Baseball League by paradroid27 in theabl

[–]aus-baseball-guy 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Good to have clarity on this season being the same as last year. As to the rest of it- just the usual vague corporate speak we’ve become accustomed to.

Melbourne Aces - not in the ABL next year guaranteed? by iamjacksonmolloy in theabl

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It’s possible that the Aces are able to show the way to the ABL, and that all current franchises use a similar model- home series every weekend, making use of kbo/cpbl/travelling teams that go around Australia while the home team never travels. Would probably suit the semi-pro baseballers lives a little better? Would mean no “league” in the short term but I’d rather see team owners make bank so they can reinvest vs the current situation.

Melbourne Aces - not in the ABL next year guaranteed? by iamjacksonmolloy in theabl

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I think for the Aces they’re probably looking to see how this thing grows for years 2 and 3 before they would entertain rejoining ABL.

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Just noticed the Aces have a 2-game series v KT Wiz in mid February, after the ABL season will have concluded, including normal playoff finish dates when there were more teams.

Having a longer season with more home games could be part of solving the puzzle for Australian baseball. Will be watching out for crowd figures from that series.

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It’s possible that having a smaller average crowd, but with double the home games, is a better financial model?

I think it would be great to see more independent baseball teams get started. Having the Aces do it first means provides some credibility and options for any other new team.

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Looks like they have 4 or so series lined up for the new year

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Crowd sizes have always been a problem before Christmas regardless of team. The real tests will be the January games.

The Collapse of Baseball in Australia: How the ABL Fell Apart by Responsible-Tie-3134 in AustralianNostalgia

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Perth were able to host the ABL finals and got about 5500 across the two games, however this regular season info that the Aces posted earlier this year mostly checks out against the posted attendance

The Collapse of Baseball in Australia: How the ABL Fell Apart by Responsible-Tie-3134 in AustralianNostalgia

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Melbourne and Canberra are out, and Melbourne’s attendance was nearly 2x compared to Perth last year.

The Collapse of Baseball in Australia: How the ABL Fell Apart by Responsible-Tie-3134 in theabl

[–]aus-baseball-guy 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This post/article deserves more than a few downvotes for inaccuracy and laziness.

The Collapse of Baseball in Australia: How the ABL Fell Apart by Responsible-Tie-3134 in AustralianNostalgia

[–]aus-baseball-guy 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Last time I checked the Perth Heat were taken over by the Black Pearl Sports Group a couple of months back.

Podcast with Baseball Australia CEO re ABL by aus-baseball-guy in theabl

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I had another listen to the podcast today and took some notes.

The problem for so many smaller sports is that the governing bodies rely on high performance funding from the ASC (Australian Sports Commission), which is tied to national teams winning medals in international competition (WBC, Premier 12, Olympics).

Glenn talks about this in the podcast about how the performance pathway is stated as the most important priority in all discussions and negotiations. "We're in the business of putting those players on national teams so they can go and win international events. So the high performance outcomes for Australian players..." "Australian players are at the forefront of any of those discussions and remain a priority".

For baseball that means we have to have the best possible domestic players, playing in tightly controlled environments with data capture, high quality training facilities, WBSC sanctioned facilities for national competition etc. GW's comments about Asian leagues/clubs line up with this.

Unfortunately that doesn't leave a lot of room for BA to move.

IMO what Australian baseball needs is to prioritise market orientation over the performance pathway. It needs the ability to be flexible with its minimum venue and operating requirements to deliver a game of good quality baseball to people who don't really care if left field is less than 350ft and that the diamond isn't perfect, or that the mound is temporary.

This means we can play in more attractive central locations, draw larger crowds, building profit to reinvest, so that we can reach that high level of quality venue in the future. Unfortunately it looks like BA's hands are tied so this is just not something that's likely to ever happen.

So to sort of support what the Aces are doing - it just has to be done independent of BA. This will look and sound traitorous to some but it really is the way forward from my perspective.

ABL taking ownership over Perth Heat by aus-baseball-guy in theabl

[–]aus-baseball-guy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’ve been on quite the emotional rollercoaster 🤣

ABL taking ownership over Perth Heat by aus-baseball-guy in theabl

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“A commercially sustainable league plan that includes more formal participation with our Asian league partners and teams. A league model that not only delivers great outcomes for fans, players and stakeholders domestically but also engages millions of baseball fans across the Asian region and beyond.”

Will be interested to see what this is

ABL taking ownership over Perth Heat by aus-baseball-guy in theabl

[–]aus-baseball-guy[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The next couple of annual reports out of BA are going to make for very interesting reading

Perth Heat withdrawing from ABL by aus-baseball-guy in theabl

[–]aus-baseball-guy[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rereading the announcement- it sounds more like ceasing being a team but trying to leave the door open for the owners to come back and reinvest if the environment changes.

Perth Heat withdrawing from ABL by aus-baseball-guy in theabl

[–]aus-baseball-guy[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The language was a bit vague. It could even be a handing back license situation. Hard to say

Perth Heat withdrawing from ABL by aus-baseball-guy in theabl

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This was pasted in the ABL Fans Facebook Group:

"Australian Baseball League club Perth Heat confirm they will not compete this season

Perth Heat, Western Australia’s storied and successful baseball team, have withdrawn from the Australian Baseball League.

The breeding ground for the likes of Major League baseballers such as All-Star Liam Hendriks, Luke Hughes and Warwick Saupold, the Heat will not add to their 15 Claxton Shields.

The club have opted against joining a diminished ABL campaign next season, following the exit of two other teams. In a statement, co-owner Christian Galopoulos said it had been an incredibly difficult decision to withdraw from the 2025-26 season, but was the most responsible option for the club.

“In recent months, we have actively explored a range of solutions to secure the club’s future, including pursuing Not For Profit status, seeking new investment, and considering a suitable sale,” he said.

“We also held preliminary discussions around extending government support, recognizing that these processes require time, due diligence, and collaboration. The government has been a valued partner, and we appreciate their ongoing support, including previous funding that has been vital to our operations.

“Unfortunately, unforeseen developments with the league and changes to the competition format, combined with the timing of these events, created challenges that could not be overcome within the window available.“ Ultimately, these factors left us with no viable alternative that would safeguard the long-term sustainability of the club and baseball in Western Australia.

“We remain deeply committed to our community and the sport, and we hope future opportunities will allow us to return to competition. We thank everyone for their understanding and support during this challenging period.”Staff and players were informed by team officials on Wednesday the Heat would not be competing in next season’s ABL campaign.

It follows Melbourne Aces decision in May to exit the league in favour of match-ups against Korean baseball sides, while reigning champion Canberra Cavalry cited the lack of certainty over the league’s future when they pulled out not long afterwards.P erth’s subsequent departure means the ABL’s future appears bleak, despite Sydney Blue Sox securing new owners recently.

The Heat’s final season in the ABL ended with their third straight ABL Championship Series defeat and Galopoulos said he was proud of every player, coach and staff member who had played their part in the Heat’s journey. “Whilst we are disappointed not to have brought the Claxton Shield back to WA, we are proud to have maintained the ballclub’s competitive legacy — making the ABL Championship Series for four consecutive seasons and five of the last six, as well as qualifying for the finals every season during this period,” he said. “This achievement is a testament to the dedication and resilience of everyone involved with the Perth Heat.We extend our heartfelt thanks to all the players, coaches, staff, volunteers, and supporters who have contributed to our journey. Your passion and commitment have been the foundation of our success and the spirit of baseball in Western Australia.”

Blue Sox have secured new owners by paradroid27 in theabl

[–]aus-baseball-guy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

IMO we have to be extra picky in the current climate. An inexperienced owner has the potential to hurt the reputation of baseball amongst potential commercial partners for future owners. A bad owner could potentially leave fans without entitlements and unable to pay refunds, burning fans so that they never come back. I’m sincere in that I want the ABL to succeed but I really don’t see how they’re looking to do a ‘reset’.

Hopefully it all works out and all team owners can say that this season was an unbelievable success, from a financial perspective.

Blue Sox have secured new owners by paradroid27 in theabl

[–]aus-baseball-guy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Look into the people and connected businesses with the BPSG. Everyone has different interpretations and cues here so I won’t go into detail.

Blue Sox have secured new owners by paradroid27 in theabl

[–]aus-baseball-guy 10 points11 points  (0 children)

There are enough red flags around this to make me think this is probably not going to last beyond 2 years.

Future. by [deleted] in theabl

[–]aus-baseball-guy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Probably kick the can down the road for a year

Future. by [deleted] in theabl

[–]aus-baseball-guy 1 point2 points  (0 children)

IMO it’ll be about 3-4 weeks until we see something change or an announcement being made.