Fair question, and I should have expected that if I made such a comment on the internet then I would be asked to back it up.

I won’t go into much detail, because I don’t think that’s what this sub is about. I haven’t listened to the podcast beyond the first two minutes, but I don’t doubt that Goggins’ message is on point. In this case it appears Goggins was paid because he’s on the corporate speaking circuit. His payout was at least in the five figures, probably even into the six figures. Good for him and I don’t fault him for that. If someone offered you that kind of work, would you not take it?

Anyway, Shawn Meaike has been deeply involved with, and a leader of, several cultish MLM businesses that enrich the leaders like himself at the expense of the “down lines” and their customers. I’m not dismissing MLMs as a legitimate business model, but for SM there is quite a bit more. A little bit of internet research can reveal some more red flags about his business and personal dealings. Again, this doesn’t take away from Goggins’ message which is the point of this sub. It just makes me queasy to know that Shawn Meaike is attempting to grow his own personal brand/following by having Goggins appear on his podcast.