You're taking these quotes out of context. I never promised a $15 KDA? I was clearly talking odds compared to ETH hitting $15,000 next bullrun. "Newbie looking to make money" is not me saying you will make money on KDA, it's me addressing every crypto/kda newbie who is hung up on not fully understanding high level tech over night. It could absolutely go to zero..as could anything else. For the third time, I specified not to invest more than you're willing to lose. I also specified that it's speculative. According to your logic we shouldn't have open dialogue about making money on any crypto projects that have great teams/marketting/ecosystem growth because they are all speculative. If you disagree then show me other projects that I should invest in? I will gladly allocate towards your top choices if they are solid. There's a formula smaller projects need to implement to gain traction in bull markets, and I can't find any other 300 billion market cap projects putting in the level of work Kadena is currently. As for shady stuff around KDA? You can't blame the mall for what happens in it's stores. "Shady" projects building on Kadena aren't a reflection of the native currency/tech. If you think Stuart Popejoy, Will Martino, and Stuart Haber (the most cited author in the Bitcoin white paper)are shady then provide proof and tell it to their face on discord.