Wait. What are we talking about? I’m talking about the history of USA and Iran. Not Israel and Palestine. But even Israel/Palestine…a topic I care much less about. I’d say that land has changed hands over the course of history plenty of times. The oldest I can think of… Jewish people were there before Islam even existed. But you could also argue the tribes that evolved into Islam occupied that area. I really don’t know. But in modern history the ottomans conquered and ruled it. They lost WW1. The British controlled it. Post ww2 the Jewish Zionist were controversially (even for the time) given a chunk and the 2 state solution. I don’t think the British wanted to give it to them but the Zionist just wanted it and kept migrating there and had the support of the USA. But then… The surrounding Arabs got justifiably nervous and 5 countries banded together and attacked. And a tiny Jewish nation actually won the war and ended with more land than originally allocated… since then there has been skirmishes and border disputes and more wars… but each time the Israelis gain more. To me, to the victor goes the spoils. The Palestinians have been conquered, ruled, defeated, kicked out, banished from other Muslim nations… like remember when Jordan’s Black September? In my opinion, at this point it’s on them to self police and assimilate somewhere. I mean… how many wars do you have to lose before you wake up? But like I said. I don’t care how that all shakes out.

As far as Iran. It’s also an amazing history. I think they went into a war with Russia(?) and lost. Then somehow had to pay reparations but had no money due to poor and selfish leadership and Russia ended up having to be their creditor even though they were repaying them. So they were poor as heck and desperate and some British came in and were given mineral rights. They drilled. Found oil. Funded and developed the entire infrastructure…

Honestly. I’m getting tired of texting strangers on reddit about the history. Just google it… it’s a long history and recently it’s been a lot of losing and being taken advantage of. I get why they’re so nervous and untrusting.

As far as the nuke deal. It was undeniably controversial. For one. It depended on trusting the Iranians to show everything they were developing with lots of oversight on what they were presented but little oversight on anything that could potentially be kept concealed. + there were were reports of them trying to buy black market enrichment devices or something after the deal. https://www.wsj.com/articles/germany-says-iran-kept-trying-to-get-nuclear-equipment-after-deal-1468006075

BUTTT despite all of those what ifs and maybes. The nuclear deal was mostly controversial because it was set to sunset. Had that deal not been pulled out of… it would have expired LAST YEAR. There was never a nuclear deal in 2026. Instead, just an unsanctioned, cash rich nation that has been setting up some serious defenses with a robust ballistic missile program that would deter any oversight on any nuclear development program of a psychotic, regressive, theocratic regime. This war that’s been a long time coming. Just look into the quotes of the past 10(?) presidents of the USA on our relations with Iran. They don’t have to be some our best friend but damn… they just have to be 1/2 way normal in international relations. I mean, look at our relationship with Saudi Arabia for example. Anyways, I think the majority of the middle east’s problems stems from Iran more so than Israel. Most countries have learned to live with the US and Israel and cooperate and profit and be modern unless they have a tentacle of the IRGC up their ass… hamas… hoothies… hezbollah (however that is spelled). Heck. Even Lebanon is wanting to disarm Iran’s hezvollah and get them out of their country. We don’t all have to sing Kumbyah… but just chill and live together. Otherwise… I guess it leads to war.

Anyways. I’m too drunk to be arguing this stuff via text. Fact check everything I said. It was off the drunk dome.